If the UK went to war tomorrow
Discussion
SkinnyBoy said:
Judging by the apathetic response to the current shower of ste in power at the moment, the bloody Isle of White could invade the mainland and nobody would give a st. Maybe England has had its time, why lament it anymore, it is an island lost to the feral youth and the self serving. I won't shed a tear and I certainly wouldn't fight to keep it "English" Perhaps it is time for you to all pay the price of your overstretched lifestyles of sloth and indifference, the old Blitz spirit has long gone, Welcome to the homogeneous EU straight cucumber life of servitude to your unelected leaders.
England isn't an island6655321 said:
Monki said:
would you be willing to fight and die for your country?
Personally.... don't really feel proud to be British anymore and to be honest, wouldn't see what I was fighting for.
Hard to think that 10 years ago I was all up for joining the army air corps
depends what the war was fought for. Running off to get an oil field on the other side of the world, nope, sorry. threat to the UK, and it's allies? Yup. Personally.... don't really feel proud to be British anymore and to be honest, wouldn't see what I was fighting for.
Hard to think that 10 years ago I was all up for joining the army air corps
What he said!
Personally I consider my loved ones worth dying for, but it's hard to explain just how unprepared I'd be to risk my life for Gordon Brown's re-election prospects or for a chance for him to 'stand shoulder to shoulder' with the US president on a Blair-style power trip.
loltolhurst said:
Frankeh said:
Edit: Also I think we need a real war to unite people again.
winning the world cup would be easier / less bloody...Edited by Frankeh on Wednesday 28th October 10:17
It's also easier to guarantee and will be less bloody than if we lose the world cup.
Frankeh said:
loltolhurst said:
Frankeh said:
Edit: Also I think we need a real war to unite people again.
winning the world cup would be easier / less bloody...Edited by Frankeh on Wednesday 28th October 10:17
It's also easier to guarantee and will be less bloody than if we lose the world cup.
Hugo a Gogo said:
SkinnyBoy said:
Judging by the apathetic response to the current shower of ste in power at the moment, the bloody Isle of White could invade the mainland and nobody would give a st. Maybe England has had its time, why lament it anymore, it is an island lost to the feral youth and the self serving. I won't shed a tear and I certainly wouldn't fight to keep it "English" Perhaps it is time for you to all pay the price of your overstretched lifestyles of sloth and indifference, the old Blitz spirit has long gone, Welcome to the homogeneous EU straight cucumber life of servitude to your unelected leaders.
England isn't an islandEnjoy your rations!
i think the dead kennedys had it right 20 years ago in their song "kinky sex makes the world go
round" for those that remember
for those with spotify:
http://open.spotify.com/track/6kSkVLMzHBFWkDyBlT8v...
oooh found the lyrics:
Kinky Sex Makes The World Go 'Round"
Greetings:This is the Secretary of War at the State Department
of the United States
We have a problem.
The companies want something done about this sluggish
world economic situation
Profits have been running a little thin lately
and we need to stimulate some growth
Now we know
there's an alarmingly high number of young people roaming
around in your country with nothing to do but stir up trouble
for the police and damage private property.
It doesn't look like they'll ever get a job
It's about time we did something constructive with these people
We've got thousands of 'em here too. They're crawling all over
The companies think it's time we all sit down, have a serious get-together-
And start another war
The President?
He loves the idea! All those missiles streaming overhead to and fro
Napalm
People running down the road, skin on fire
The Soviets seem up for it:
The Kremlin's been itching for the real thing for years.
Hell, Afghanistan's no fun
So whadya say?
We don't even have to win this war.
We just want to cut down on some of this excess population
Now look. Just start up a draft; draft as many of those people as you can.
We'll call up every last youngster we can get our hands on,
hand 'em some speed, give 'em an hour or two to learn how to use
an automatic rifle and send 'em on their way
Libya? El Salvador? How 'bout Northern Ireland?
Or a "moderately repressive regime" in South America?
We'll just cook up a good Soviet threat story
in the Middle East-we need that oil
We had Libya all ready to go and Colonel Khadafy's hit squad
didn't even show up. I tell ya
That man is unreliable.
The Kremlin had their fingers on the button just like we did for that one
Now just think for a minute-We can make this war so big-so BIG
The more people we kill in this war, the more the economy will prosper
We can get rid of practically everybody on your dole queue if we plan this right.
Take every loafer on welfare right off our computer rolls
Now don't worry about demonstrations-just pump up your drug supply.
So many people have hooked themselves on heroin
and amphetamines since we took over, it's just like Vietnam.
We had everybody so busy with LSD they never got too strong.
Kept the war functioning just fine
It's easy.
We've got our college kids so interested in beer
they don't even care if we start manufacturing germ bombs again.
Put a nuclear stockpile in their back yard,
they wouldn't even know what it looked like
So how 'bout it? Look-War is money.
The arms manufacturers tell me unless
we get our bomb factories up to full production
the whole economy is going to collapse
The Soviets are in the same boat.
We all agree the time has come for the big one, so whadya say?!?
That's excellent. We knew you'd agree
The companies will be very pleased.
round" for those that remember
for those with spotify:
http://open.spotify.com/track/6kSkVLMzHBFWkDyBlT8v...
oooh found the lyrics:
Kinky Sex Makes The World Go 'Round"
Greetings:This is the Secretary of War at the State Department
of the United States
We have a problem.
The companies want something done about this sluggish
world economic situation
Profits have been running a little thin lately
and we need to stimulate some growth
Now we know
there's an alarmingly high number of young people roaming
around in your country with nothing to do but stir up trouble
for the police and damage private property.
It doesn't look like they'll ever get a job
It's about time we did something constructive with these people
We've got thousands of 'em here too. They're crawling all over
The companies think it's time we all sit down, have a serious get-together-
And start another war
The President?
He loves the idea! All those missiles streaming overhead to and fro
Napalm
People running down the road, skin on fire
The Soviets seem up for it:
The Kremlin's been itching for the real thing for years.
Hell, Afghanistan's no fun
So whadya say?
We don't even have to win this war.
We just want to cut down on some of this excess population
Now look. Just start up a draft; draft as many of those people as you can.
We'll call up every last youngster we can get our hands on,
hand 'em some speed, give 'em an hour or two to learn how to use
an automatic rifle and send 'em on their way
Libya? El Salvador? How 'bout Northern Ireland?
Or a "moderately repressive regime" in South America?
We'll just cook up a good Soviet threat story
in the Middle East-we need that oil
We had Libya all ready to go and Colonel Khadafy's hit squad
didn't even show up. I tell ya
That man is unreliable.
The Kremlin had their fingers on the button just like we did for that one
Now just think for a minute-We can make this war so big-so BIG
The more people we kill in this war, the more the economy will prosper
We can get rid of practically everybody on your dole queue if we plan this right.
Take every loafer on welfare right off our computer rolls
Now don't worry about demonstrations-just pump up your drug supply.
So many people have hooked themselves on heroin
and amphetamines since we took over, it's just like Vietnam.
We had everybody so busy with LSD they never got too strong.
Kept the war functioning just fine
It's easy.
We've got our college kids so interested in beer
they don't even care if we start manufacturing germ bombs again.
Put a nuclear stockpile in their back yard,
they wouldn't even know what it looked like
So how 'bout it? Look-War is money.
The arms manufacturers tell me unless
we get our bomb factories up to full production
the whole economy is going to collapse
The Soviets are in the same boat.
We all agree the time has come for the big one, so whadya say?!?
That's excellent. We knew you'd agree
The companies will be very pleased.
Edited by loltolhurst on Wednesday 28th October 10:30
SkinnyBoy said:
Hugo a Gogo said:
SkinnyBoy said:
Judging by the apathetic response to the current shower of ste in power at the moment, the bloody Isle of White could invade the mainland and nobody would give a st. Maybe England has had its time, why lament it anymore, it is an island lost to the feral youth and the self serving. I won't shed a tear and I certainly wouldn't fight to keep it "English" Perhaps it is time for you to all pay the price of your overstretched lifestyles of sloth and indifference, the old Blitz spirit has long gone, Welcome to the homogeneous EU straight cucumber life of servitude to your unelected leaders.
England isn't an islandEnjoy your rations!
Hugo a Gogo said:
SkinnyBoy said:
Hugo a Gogo said:
SkinnyBoy said:
Judging by the apathetic response to the current shower of ste in power at the moment, the bloody Isle of White could invade the mainland and nobody would give a st. Maybe England has had its time, why lament it anymore, it is an island lost to the feral youth and the self serving. I won't shed a tear and I certainly wouldn't fight to keep it "English" Perhaps it is time for you to all pay the price of your overstretched lifestyles of sloth and indifference, the old Blitz spirit has long gone, Welcome to the homogeneous EU straight cucumber life of servitude to your unelected leaders.
England isn't an islandEnjoy your rations!
Viva le Bratwurst longie leeve la euro cucumberrrr...
drivin_me_nuts said:
I'll be fighting on the other side, for the straight cucumbers and bratwursts
totally agree. English sausages are mostly rubbish... even the 'gourmet' expensive ones. Come the revolution they'll be first against the wallViva le Bratwurst longie leeve la euro cucumberrrr...
Seriously, I suspect that we still have a bit of post imperial lack of direction. Gone from #1 (or very close), nearly bankrupted by a huge war, done over by huge union problems, nationalised everything and turned to banking, which doesn't employ enough people.
There's also a bit of Golden Ageism, as seen in the Chav Army posts above. The 18th-19th century armies were full of what would be considered chavs or hoodies today, but were rather effective Redcoat by Richard Holmes describes them as "the scum of the islands" and "hard men made by hard times".
I consider Britishnes to be worth fighting for, but the politicians don't justify my trust, if it came to a civil war, as a republican, it woud have to be Harry The Mellow all the way.
BrassMan said:
drivin_me_nuts said:
I'll be fighting on the other side, for the straight cucumbers and bratwursts
totally agree. English sausages are mostly rubbish... even the 'gourmet' expensive ones. Come the revolution they'll be first against the wallViva le Bratwurst longie leeve la euro cucumberrrr...
Seriously, I suspect that we still have a bit of post imperial lack of direction. Gone from #1 (or very close), nearly bankrupted by a huge war, done over by huge union problems, nationalised everything and turned to banking, which doesn't employ enough people.
There's also a bit of Golden Ageism, as seen in the Chav Army posts above. The 18th-19th century armies were full of what would be considered chavs or hoodies today, but were rather effective Redcoat by Richard Holmes describes them as "the scum of the islands" and "hard men made by hard times".
I consider Britishnes to be worth fighting for, but the politicians don't justify my trust, if it came to a civil war, as a republican, it woud have to be Harry The Mellow all the way.
turne uppe the speekerrrrrs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-ZEDNkZ2L4
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