I've been asked to join the Freemasons
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Any truth, in Dan Brown's 'The lost Symbol'?
I have to admit that the masons, really intregue me, more so since I believe (correct me if I am wrong) their origins are in the great masons who built our cathedrals. Given my chosen profession is architecture, I can't help but be interested.
I have to admit that the masons, really intregue me, more so since I believe (correct me if I am wrong) their origins are in the great masons who built our cathedrals. Given my chosen profession is architecture, I can't help but be interested.
Poledriver said:
Are you a police Officer?
No, I make catering Trailers, my back ground is that of a carpenter/kitchen fitter and a multi musician, Guitar, Drums, Bass, Piano since 1979.Interesting that you ask me that though, as the chap asking me to join the FM is a retired member of the her majesties's fuzz.
diesel head said:
Any truth, in Dan Brown's 'The lost Symbol'?
I have to admit that the masons, really intregue me, more so since I believe (correct me if I am wrong) their origins are in the great masons who built our cathedrals. Given my chosen profession is architecture, I can't help but be interested.
Not much truth in Dan Brown's novel to be honest and the masonic references are very heavily weighted towards US Freemasonry which is subtly different to English Freemasonry.I have to admit that the masons, really intregue me, more so since I believe (correct me if I am wrong) their origins are in the great masons who built our cathedrals. Given my chosen profession is architecture, I can't help but be interested.
The true origins of speculative masonry have long been debated, may believe it does have some roots in the guilds of ancient operative masons. Links to the Knights Templar are tenuous to say the least.....
As an architect you may be interested in how we apply the ancient stonemasons tools to morals and a way of life. The whole craft is based on allegory and symbolism. Some googling will turn up the symbolical meanings of the various stonemasons tools......
Edited by rednotdead on Wednesday 16th December 21:44
diesel head said:
Any truth, in Dan Brown's 'The lost Symbol'?
I have to admit that the masons, really intregue me, more so since I believe (correct me if I am wrong) their origins are in the great masons who built our cathedrals. Given my chosen profession is architecture, I can't help but be interested.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosslyn_Chapel#Templar_and_Masonic_connectionsI have to admit that the masons, really intregue me, more so since I believe (correct me if I am wrong) their origins are in the great masons who built our cathedrals. Given my chosen profession is architecture, I can't help but be interested.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hiram_Key
http://www.knight-lomas.com/secmessiah.html
BarnatosGhost said:
why is it misunderstood?
Prior to the second world war Freemasonry in England was very open, regularly reported in the press and parades of Freemasons in regalia would quite often take place through the towns/villages (still goes on in Scotland) and lodge activites and business were fairly well known about. With the persecution of Freemasons by the Nazi's it went underground in the years leading up to and during the second world war, indeed the little black book of the Nazis clearly identified prominent Freemasons to be arrested and Masonic temples to be ransacked should their invasion ever materialise.Following WWII Freemasonry has been its own worst enemy by not responding to any press coverage (good or bad) and thus not providing balanced arguement to the naysayers and antis that were spouting rubbish about the fraternity. This naturally led to increased suspicion and the growing percieption of a 'secret society' out to rule the world.
In recent years UGLE have finally started to be more open about what we stand for and what we do. They have encouraged individual Freemasons to be more open too which in my view is only a good thing. However the world of the 'tinternet has proved a breeding ground for the antis (look at some of the rubbish about Freemasonry on the David Icke forums) and I fear that it is too little too late. We're fighting an uphill battle to convince the public that we are not what we are percieved to be.......
Edited by rednotdead on Wednesday 16th December 21:57
Rollcage said:
What about Jah-Bul-On?
Fact or fiction?
In what sense? In all the time I have been a Freemason I haven't come across this name in our rituals, either in Craft masonry or the various other masonic orders I am a member of so I would say fiction and certainly the general consensus is that it is based on pure speculation by non-masons.Fact or fiction?
If you mean that Jah-Bul-on is the name of the Masonic God, I'm afraid you're wrong. Masonry is not a religion therefore how can it have a God? To be a mason you need to profess a belief in a 'supreme being' but what you perceive that supreme being to be is entirely up to the individual.
The names Jubela, Jubelo and Jubelum may have been associated with cetain characters we meet in the 3rd degree but those names are not explicit in our rituals.
Edited by rednotdead on Wednesday 16th December 22:49
Rollcage said:
Fer said:
Justayellowbadge said:
An arcane, misunderstood group, where you are approached on the quiet to see if you want to join, and if you do you will be viewed with suspicion by those around you?
Not sure it appeals.
They say the same about becoming a Mod.Not sure it appeals.
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