Need a pistol / rifle for vermin control HELP
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That's not really like for like though is it?
A tin can at 9 metres is a target of about 10x20cm. Let's say for simplicity rat's head is about 2.5x5cm. So the target is a quarter of the size and demands 4 times the accuracy.
Even if you're going for COM as opposed to a head shot (which I personally find unsporting) then you've still got a target of roughly 5x10cm. I'd love to see you group effectively with a pistol at that range. Especially when it's a fast moving target, presumably in the dark whilst being careful not to lose an eye with ricochet!
In my opinion, as a man who believes in minimising suffering, a rifle is a better bet. The OP could also hunt the likes of woodies and maybe even rabbits if wanted with the two guns I've recommended. The latter only weighs 2.2kg and could easily be handled in a confined space.
A tin can at 9 metres is a target of about 10x20cm. Let's say for simplicity rat's head is about 2.5x5cm. So the target is a quarter of the size and demands 4 times the accuracy.
Even if you're going for COM as opposed to a head shot (which I personally find unsporting) then you've still got a target of roughly 5x10cm. I'd love to see you group effectively with a pistol at that range. Especially when it's a fast moving target, presumably in the dark whilst being careful not to lose an eye with ricochet!
In my opinion, as a man who believes in minimising suffering, a rifle is a better bet. The OP could also hunt the likes of woodies and maybe even rabbits if wanted with the two guns I've recommended. The latter only weighs 2.2kg and could easily be handled in a confined space.
A 6 ft/lb pistol MIGHT kill a rat with a head shot at close range but the OP has no experiance so he would find the job in hand alot easier with a more powerfull more accurate easier to shoot straight rifle i belive.You might find a used theoben sirroco or simler for the money you want to spend (gas ram low recoil very accutate 12 ft/lb)
Emsman said:
Do it do it do it, Gas ram 
WorAl said:
Emsman said:
Do it do it do it, Gas ram Emsman said:
WorAl said:
Emsman said:
Do it do it do it, Gas ram 
Emsman said:
WorAl said:
Emsman said:
Do it do it do it, Gas ram There is also the Theoben Evolution, Gas Ram, bought mine about 4 years ago with a scope for £350, second hand one should be cheap enough. really couldn't recommend one enough. Plus they're good enough to go through 300 pages of telephone directory 
Gas Ram is the dogs nuts, but they're getting rare to buy brand new.
Gas Ram is the dogs nuts, but they're getting rare to buy brand new.
How to get rid of rats.
1x house brick.
Cover with peanut butter.
Place in middle of lawn.
Cover a 50p sized piece of cling film with a layer of red nail polish.
Take lens off maglite, place red cling film over it. Re-assemble and position in upstairs window (open) pointing at brick.
Wait till dark.
Put torch on.
Shoot rats with the cheapest .22 air rifle you can get.
Don't bother moving the rats once dead, other will continue to eat from the brick regardless of their fallen comrades.
Once done, bin bag and dispose of rats.
All really easy, fairly good fun, cheap and hassle free. It is easy to get magpie like with guns, having been into target rifle shooting since the age of eight I completely understand the need to buy the shiny, expensive carbon everything. BUT - In this instance it would be a waste of time imho.
1x house brick.
Cover with peanut butter.
Place in middle of lawn.
Cover a 50p sized piece of cling film with a layer of red nail polish.
Take lens off maglite, place red cling film over it. Re-assemble and position in upstairs window (open) pointing at brick.
Wait till dark.
Put torch on.
Shoot rats with the cheapest .22 air rifle you can get.
Don't bother moving the rats once dead, other will continue to eat from the brick regardless of their fallen comrades.
Once done, bin bag and dispose of rats.
All really easy, fairly good fun, cheap and hassle free. It is easy to get magpie like with guns, having been into target rifle shooting since the age of eight I completely understand the need to buy the shiny, expensive carbon everything. BUT - In this instance it would be a waste of time imho.
Well put.
They are rats.
I put forward a gas ram BSA.
I wouldn't worry about the rats- just get them shot.
In view of being somewhat humane I would choose to use something near the legal limit to shoot them,
but to be honest, they are rats, I wouldn't worry too much.
Just get rid of the feckers
They are rats.
I put forward a gas ram BSA.
I wouldn't worry about the rats- just get them shot.
In view of being somewhat humane I would choose to use something near the legal limit to shoot them,
but to be honest, they are rats, I wouldn't worry too much.
Just get rid of the feckers
Bri957 said:
How to get rid of rats.
1x house brick.
Cover with peanut butter.
Place in middle of lawn.
Cover a 50p sized piece of cling film with a layer of red nail polish.
Take lens off maglite, place red cling film over it. Re-assemble and position in upstairs window (open) pointing at brick.
Wait till dark.
Put torch on.
Shoot rats with the cheapest .22 air rifle you can get.
Don't bother moving the rats once dead, other will continue to eat from the brick regardless of their fallen comrades.
Once done, bin bag and dispose of rats.
Then wait for armed response when a neighbour reports shooting from house window.1x house brick.
Cover with peanut butter.
Place in middle of lawn.
Cover a 50p sized piece of cling film with a layer of red nail polish.
Take lens off maglite, place red cling film over it. Re-assemble and position in upstairs window (open) pointing at brick.
Wait till dark.
Put torch on.
Shoot rats with the cheapest .22 air rifle you can get.
Don't bother moving the rats once dead, other will continue to eat from the brick regardless of their fallen comrades.
Once done, bin bag and dispose of rats.
Seriously OP - make sure you are a good distance from any roads/houses/foot paths or you may well have the ARU pointing their guns at you.
MonkeyBusiness said:
Bri957 said:
How to get rid of rats.
1x house brick.
Cover with peanut butter.
Place in middle of lawn.
Cover a 50p sized piece of cling film with a layer of red nail polish.
Take lens off maglite, place red cling film over it. Re-assemble and position in upstairs window (open) pointing at brick.
Wait till dark.
Put torch on.
Shoot rats with the cheapest .22 air rifle you can get.
Don't bother moving the rats once dead, other will continue to eat from the brick regardless of their fallen comrades.
Once done, bin bag and dispose of rats.
Then wait for armed response when a neighbour reports shooting from house window.1x house brick.
Cover with peanut butter.
Place in middle of lawn.
Cover a 50p sized piece of cling film with a layer of red nail polish.
Take lens off maglite, place red cling film over it. Re-assemble and position in upstairs window (open) pointing at brick.
Wait till dark.
Put torch on.
Shoot rats with the cheapest .22 air rifle you can get.
Don't bother moving the rats once dead, other will continue to eat from the brick regardless of their fallen comrades.
Once done, bin bag and dispose of rats.
Seriously OP - make sure you are a good distance from any roads/houses/foot paths or you may well have the ARU pointing their guns at you.
Seriously though, that's decent advice. I think the general rule is based around 'nuisance' which can be interpreted in many ways
If you're using a springer, then you won't be silent - far from it even with a moderator. Bri957's advice is good, but for maximum stealth, you'd want to shoot from well inside the room, from a comfortable position that affords max sound insulation.
Now, if you had one of Weihrauchs finest HW100's , you could sit on the lawn, content in the knowledge that that only audible sound would be the quick - EEEK of a shot rat.
Kuroblack350 said:
MonkeyBusiness said:
Bri957 said:
How to get rid of rats.
1x house brick.
Cover with peanut butter.
Place in middle of lawn.
Cover a 50p sized piece of cling film with a layer of red nail polish.
Take lens off maglite, place red cling film over it. Re-assemble and position in upstairs window (open) pointing at brick.
Wait till dark.
Put torch on.
Shoot rats with the cheapest .22 air rifle you can get.
Don't bother moving the rats once dead, other will continue to eat from the brick regardless of their fallen comrades.
Once done, bin bag and dispose of rats.
Then wait for armed response when a neighbour reports shooting from house window.1x house brick.
Cover with peanut butter.
Place in middle of lawn.
Cover a 50p sized piece of cling film with a layer of red nail polish.
Take lens off maglite, place red cling film over it. Re-assemble and position in upstairs window (open) pointing at brick.
Wait till dark.
Put torch on.
Shoot rats with the cheapest .22 air rifle you can get.
Don't bother moving the rats once dead, other will continue to eat from the brick regardless of their fallen comrades.
Once done, bin bag and dispose of rats.
Seriously OP - make sure you are a good distance from any roads/houses/foot paths or you may well have the ARU pointing their guns at you.
Seriously though, that's decent advice. I think the general rule is based around 'nuisance' which can be interpreted in many ways
If you're using a springer, then you won't be silent - far from it even with a moderator. Bri957's advice is good, but for maximum stealth, you'd want to shoot from well inside the room, from a comfortable position that affords max sound insulation.
Now, if you had one of Weihrauchs finest HW100's , you could sit on the lawn, content in the knowledge that that only audible sound would be the quick - EEEK of a shot rat.
MonkeyBusiness said:
Bri957 said:
How to get rid of rats.
1x house brick.
Cover with peanut butter.
Place in middle of lawn.
Cover a 50p sized piece of cling film with a layer of red nail polish.
Take lens off maglite, place red cling film over it. Re-assemble and position in upstairs window (open) pointing at brick.
Wait till dark.
Put torch on.
Shoot rats with the cheapest .22 air rifle you can get.
Don't bother moving the rats once dead, other will continue to eat from the brick regardless of their fallen comrades.
Once done, bin bag and dispose of rats.
Then wait for armed response when a neighbour reports shooting from house window.1x house brick.
Cover with peanut butter.
Place in middle of lawn.
Cover a 50p sized piece of cling film with a layer of red nail polish.
Take lens off maglite, place red cling film over it. Re-assemble and position in upstairs window (open) pointing at brick.
Wait till dark.
Put torch on.
Shoot rats with the cheapest .22 air rifle you can get.
Don't bother moving the rats once dead, other will continue to eat from the brick regardless of their fallen comrades.
Once done, bin bag and dispose of rats.
Seriously OP - make sure you are a good distance from any roads/houses/foot paths or you may well have the ARU pointing their guns at you.
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