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Mannginger

9,066 posts

258 months

Friday 19th July 2019
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weeping

gmaz

4,411 posts

211 months

Friday 19th July 2019
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67Dino said:
K12beano said:
I find these things so difficult I’m starting to wonder if I might be a robot...
Yep...

Elon Musk: "We'll have fully self driving cars in 5 years"
Internet: "Prove you're not a robot by clicking the boxes with a roadsign"

Lily the Pink

5,783 posts

171 months

Friday 19th July 2019
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anonymous said:
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That's very poor for a geek thread; an insult to the great man, even. I can think of little that's less likely to pass the Turing test than an ATM !

captain_cynic

12,050 posts

96 months

Friday 19th July 2019
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anonymous said:
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To be honest... I think an ATM has a better chance of passing the Turing test than many humans.

Abbott

2,413 posts

204 months

Friday 19th July 2019
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MartG said:
rofl

Dick Dastardly

8,313 posts

264 months

Saturday 20th July 2019
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MartG

20,689 posts

205 months

Sunday 21st July 2019
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dxg

8,216 posts

261 months

Sunday 21st July 2019
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Not mine. Shamelessly stolen:


"So you had a train set when you were a kid, Picard?"

"Yes...yes I did."

"What scale was it?"

"N-gauge!"

MartG

20,689 posts

205 months

Sunday 21st July 2019
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That is one small step for a man, but if you are a Kerbal you'd need a jetpack.

TartanPaint

2,989 posts

140 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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gmaz said:
67Dino said:
K12beano said:
I find these things so difficult I’m starting to wonder if I might be a robot...
Yep...

Elon Musk: "We'll have fully self driving cars in 5 years"
Internet: "Prove you're not a robot by clicking the boxes with a roadsign"
Apologies if you already knew this, and it's a bit off topic because it's not funny, but it's definitely geeky and somebody might find it interesting.

When you do one of those "click all the squares with a roadsign" human tests, your clicks are literally being used to train the machine learning that is used in self-driving cars vision systems. That's the very reason we have those particular tests and not, say, click all the birds in this picture of a tree, which would be just as effective at checking you're a human, but the data produced from it would be far less useful to Google and others.

Google et al need massive amounts of data to feed into these algorithms to "teach" them what a roadsign/traffic light/etc looks like in all weather and light conditions and all countries. They could never produce all this photo data by hand, so they came up with this clever "crowdsourcing" idea to make us do it for them. The more roadsigns we click, the better the algorithms get at recognising road signs. We're all doing our bit for road safety!

morgs_

1,663 posts

188 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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TartanPaint said:
gmaz said:
67Dino said:
K12beano said:
I find these things so difficult I’m starting to wonder if I might be a robot...
Yep...

Elon Musk: "We'll have fully self driving cars in 5 years"
Internet: "Prove you're not a robot by clicking the boxes with a roadsign"
Apologies if you already knew this, and it's a bit off topic because it's not funny, but it's definitely geeky and somebody might find it interesting.

When you do one of those "click all the squares with a roadsign" human tests, your clicks are literally being used to train the machine learning that is used in self-driving cars vision systems. That's the very reason we have those particular tests and not, say, click all the birds in this picture of a tree, which would be just as effective at checking you're a human, but the data produced from it would be far less useful to Google and others.

Google et al need massive amounts of data to feed into these algorithms to "teach" them what a roadsign/traffic light/etc looks like in all weather and light conditions and all countries. They could never produce all this photo data by hand, so they came up with this clever "crowdsourcing" idea to make us do it for them. The more roadsigns we click, the better the algorithms get at recognising road signs. We're all doing our bit for road safety!
I didn't know that and find it very interesting, thanks for sharing.

Escapegoat

5,135 posts

136 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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TartanPaint said:
Apologies if you already knew this, and it's a bit off topic because it's not funny, but it's definitely geeky and somebody might find it interesting.

When you do one of those "click all the squares with a roadsign" human tests, your clicks are literally being used to train the machine learning that is used in self-driving cars vision systems. That's the very reason we have those particular tests and not, say, click all the birds in this picture of a tree, which would be just as effective at checking you're a human, but the data produced from it would be far less useful to Google and others.

Google et al need massive amounts of data to feed into these algorithms to "teach" them what a roadsign/traffic light/etc looks like in all weather and light conditions and all countries. They could never produce all this photo data by hand, so they came up with this clever "crowdsourcing" idea to make us do it for them. The more roadsigns we click, the better the algorithms get at recognising road signs. We're all doing our bit for road safety!
Um... if no-one (human) has previously marked which grid squares actually contain the traffic signals (etc), then how can the captcha check your (i.e., you the human web browser) answers to let you proceed?

jammy-git

29,778 posts

213 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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Escapegoat said:
Um... if no-one (human) has previously marked which grid squares actually contain the traffic signals (etc), then how can the captcha check your (i.e., you the human web browser) answers to let you proceed?
If 95 out of 100 people click a particular square to say there is a road sign in it, there's a good probability there is a road sign in it.

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

262 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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jammy-git said:
Escapegoat said:
Um... if no-one (human) has previously marked which grid squares actually contain the traffic signals (etc), then how can the captcha check your (i.e., you the human web browser) answers to let you proceed?
If 95 out of 100 people click a particular square to say there is a road sign in it, there's a good probability there is a road sign in it.
So there is nobody employed to look at the grid and say 'I officially deem that square to contain a road sign and it is therefore a valid click'?

Escapegoat

5,135 posts

136 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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jammy-git said:
If 95 out of 100 people click a particular square to say there is a road sign in it, there's a good probability there is a road sign in it.
Well yes, but (as described) the captcha-thingy doesn't know the answer before it poses the puzzle. So when the image is first shown, how does it know which set of squares chosen by the user successfully pass the test (of not being a robot)?

It's not logically possible to do both things - discriminate human from robot AND gather human pattern recognition data - at the same time.

Think it through from the robot perspective: thousands of robots randomly choosing grid square sets = getting the answer wrong. If the captcha-thingy didn't already know the correct answer:
1 - it couldn't tell humans and robots apart (its purpose for the user)
2 - it would create a dataset that is full of noise, making it way harder to discern human pattern-recognition for the AI (its purpose for the Big Data Bods)


(Apologies for not even dissecting an actual kitten, etc)

Clockwork Cupcake

74,597 posts

273 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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Whilst we're on the subject...



also



credit: https://xkcd.com



Escapegoat

5,135 posts

136 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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anonymous said:
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Thanks - that certainly makes some sense. I suppose Google doesn't worry about those robots that get through and create noise in the dataset. Fascinating.

(As long as Skynet doesn't inherit the dataset, we'll all be fine.)

SCEtoAUX

4,119 posts

82 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2019
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I went to school with a German lad who had metal cogs instead of legs. He was a bit of an Enigma.

(At least it's original)

ging84

8,914 posts

147 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2019
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There are two hard things in computer science: cache invalidation, naming things, and off-by-one errors.

Clockwork Cupcake

74,597 posts

273 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2019
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ging84 said:
There are two hard things in computer science: cache invalidation, naming things, and off-by-one errors.
hehe

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