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feef said:
There is also the possible caveat that this assumes that you're not only immortal, but that you don't actually age.
It could be rather horrifying to get increasingly older and more frail, but just never die
What about the reverse situation, where you didn't age but weren't immortal, so still vulnerable to potentially fatal accident or disease?It could be rather horrifying to get increasingly older and more frail, but just never die
Would you just become extremely risk averse?
Dr Jekyll said:
What about the reverse situation, where you didn't age but weren't immortal, so still vulnerable to potentially fatal accident or disease?
Would you just become extremely risk averse?
There was a species of alien called the Pierson's Puppeteers in Larry Niven's sci-fi books set in his fictional "Known Space" universe who were exactly this. Their space ships were the safest in the universe so most other species (including mankind) bought them. Amusingly, their leader was known as The Hindmost, as the most exalted position is the one furthest from risk (literally "leading from behind" and protected by everyone else). Would you just become extremely risk averse?
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See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierson%27s_Puppetee...
Edited by Clockwork Cupcake on Tuesday 14th July 19:11
Dr Jekyll said:
What about the reverse situation, where you didn't age but weren't immortal, so still vulnerable to potentially fatal accident or disease?
Would you just become extremely risk averse?
I think there is a reasonable chance advances in medicine will mean this will become a reality for at least a few people already alive today, and within a few generations relatively common.Would you just become extremely risk averse?
ging84 said:
I think there is a reasonable chance advances in medicine will mean this will become a reality for at least a few people already alive today, and within a few generations relatively common.
The issue there is likely to become brain plasticity - not dementia but the actual wearing-out of the brain's ability to create new pathways (memories).
kowalski655 said:
IIRC there were people in one of Sir Terry Pratchett's rare sci fi books about people being able to live a really long time, but getting bored and then sky diving from space without a parachute as their last, ultimate,thrill
Strata The End of Summer by Algys Budrys is also worth a read
Edited by MartG on Tuesday 14th July 22:09
ging84 said:
Dr Jekyll said:
What about the reverse situation, where you didn't age but weren't immortal, so still vulnerable to potentially fatal accident or disease?
Would you just become extremely risk averse?
I think there is a reasonable chance advances in medicine will mean this will become a reality for at least a few people already alive today, and within a few generations relatively common.Would you just become extremely risk averse?
https://norwaytoday.info/everyday/scientist-thinks...
Strange though, I've read several articles over the last couple of years that have said the opposite (in general terms at least), that we've passed peak longevity and it's now reversing, due to things like common levels of obesity, diabetes, unhealthy living, stress, depression etc. Demography will play a big part here, as some people are now super fit and healthy as never before, but for the masses, nope!
I note the quoted article refers to genetic coding, which is rather different to general health/medicine/standard of living.
I note the quoted article refers to genetic coding, which is rather different to general health/medicine/standard of living.
Edited by 21st Century Man on Wednesday 15th July 10:24
21st Century Man said:
Strange though, I've read several articles over the last couple of years that have said the opposite (in general terms at least), that we've passed peak longevity and it's now reversing, due to things like common levels of obesity, diabetes, unhealthy living, stress, depression etc. Demography will play a big part here, as some people are now super fit and healthy as never before, but for the masses, nope!
I note the quoted article refers to genetic coding, which is rather different to general health/medicine/standard of living.
Depends if you're talking average longevity or individual peak.I note the quoted article refers to genetic coding, which is rather different to general health/medicine/standard of living.
The super-rich will, within a few decades at most, have access to treatments that will rejuvenate or slow the ageing of much of their body (brain is another thing entirely...depending on how the dementia research goes that may still be a big problem).
For everyone else, it will be a battle between an increasingly sedentary lifestyle with increasing mental health issues, and better understanding / treatment of those things which kill us - cancers, heart problems, auto-immune disorders etc...at which point you're talking billions of individuals and are deep into the realm of statistics...
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