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mko9 said:
That is what I always said when "the cloud" became a buzzword - you mean on a server somewhere?
Well, I'm no IT geek (not for 30 years or so!) but doesn't 'cloud' imply a virtual server running on one or more physical servers which can be located anywhere and you don't know where necessarily... thus a cloud? I may be due a parrot!timbo999 said:
Well, I'm no IT geek (not for 30 years or so!) but doesn't 'cloud' imply a virtual server running on one or more physical servers which can be located anywhere and you don't know where necessarily... thus a cloud? I may be due a parrot!
The fact that you don't know where doesn't mean it's not just someone else's server.So you're both right.
As for "one or more physical servers", you could also achieve that on your own machines.
timbo999 said:
Well, I'm no IT geek (not for 30 years or so!) but doesn't 'cloud' imply a virtual server running on one or more physical servers which can be located anywhere and you don't know where necessarily... thus a cloud? I may be due a parrot!
You know those cheap holiday deals you can book where you know you're going to a resort but you don't know what hotel you'll be in till you arrive? Well, that.mko9 said:
That is what I always said when "the cloud" became a buzzword - you mean on a server somewhere?
No, it's here:https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g312...
i4got said:
timbo999 said:
Well, I'm no IT geek (not for 30 years or so!) but doesn't 'cloud' imply a virtual server running on one or more physical servers which can be located anywhere and you don't know where necessarily... thus a cloud? I may be due a parrot!
You know those cheap holiday deals you can book where you know you're going to a resort but you don't know what hotel you'll be in till you arrive? Well, that.You can setup a cloud and know exactly what hardware something is running on if you want. That's not the point of "cloud". The point would be that people given access, can do things I let them do, when they want to do it. The exact location can be known, or unknown, that's just hosting, not cloud.
Munter said:
I think you're both missing the key "on demand / self service" part.
You can setup a cloud and know exactly what hardware something is running on if you want. That's not the point of "cloud". The point would be that people given access, can do things I let them do, when they want to do it. The exact location can be known, or unknown, that's just hosting, not cloud.
Indeed. The idea that a cloud service is just a bunch of VMs running your software is somewhat outdated, largely perpetuated by frustrated infrastructure architects who are just annoyed they can't hold up your project by saying you can't have a dev environment before the end of June You can setup a cloud and know exactly what hardware something is running on if you want. That's not the point of "cloud". The point would be that people given access, can do things I let them do, when they want to do it. The exact location can be known, or unknown, that's just hosting, not cloud.
Abbott said:
Munter said:
kambites said:
"Formulas" is not a word.
If enough people use it, and understand it's meaning. It's a word. Although quite what the formulas are to decide officially. I'm uncertain.Formulas is correct as PH is not an academic circle (not even the Geek Jokes thread).
deckster said:
Indeed. The idea that a cloud service is just a bunch of VMs running your software is somewhat outdated, largely perpetuated by frustrated infrastructure architects who are just annoyed they can't hold up your project by saying you can't have a dev environment before the end of June
I'm not surprised my view is outdated tbh... the last time I did anything really techy it was cracking line printer dumps from a 2900...deckster said:
Munter said:
I think you're both missing the key "on demand / self service" part.
You can setup a cloud and know exactly what hardware something is running on if you want. That's not the point of "cloud". The point would be that people given access, can do things I let them do, when they want to do it. The exact location can be known, or unknown, that's just hosting, not cloud.
Indeed. The idea that a cloud service is just a bunch of VMs running your software is somewhat outdated, largely perpetuated by frustrated infrastructure architects who are just annoyed they can't hold up your project by saying you can't have a dev environment before the end of June You can setup a cloud and know exactly what hardware something is running on if you want. That's not the point of "cloud". The point would be that people given access, can do things I let them do, when they want to do it. The exact location can be known, or unknown, that's just hosting, not cloud.
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