Weed and the Mind

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pacman1

7,322 posts

194 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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279 said:
pacman1 said:
I sense angst. Were you a troubled teenager 279?
Yes. Next question.
You appear from your own experiences, to have a clear understanding as to where the bulk of the blame might lie.

Whilst there may be some parallels, I'd suggest each case is personal and somewhat unique. You might bear that in mind on what is the OP's thread, not yours.

But anyway, since you've worked it all out and its that easy to apportion blame, have you tried to reconcile your own issues with your parents?

Perhaps you feel this is not possible, hence your level of anger..


surveyor

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17,871 posts

185 months

Monday 2nd July 2012
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Hmm.

An update. Well he's just left school (booked into College though), and still smokes Weed, apparently daily.

He's currently a little st, with no energy or will power, and has just in an outburst when I pushed him a little laughed when I blamed the weed - saying I don't know anything and it's Methodrone.

Really not liking the way this is going.

Bloody idiot does not realise how obvious it is either when he does this stuff.

Mobile Chicane

20,853 posts

213 months

Monday 2nd July 2012
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surveyor said:
Hmm.

An update. Well he's just left school (booked into College though), and still smokes Weed, apparently daily.

He's currently a little st, with no energy or will power, and has just in an outburst when I pushed him a little laughed when I blamed the weed - saying I don't know anything and it's Methodrone.

Really not liking the way this is going.

Bloody idiot does not realise how obvious it is either when he does this stuff.
You mean Mephedrone?

That would make me even more worried - at least weed is a natural product and you can see what's in it.

With pills and powders - who knows?

surveyor

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17,871 posts

185 months

Monday 2nd July 2012
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Mobile Chicane said:
You mean Mephedrone?

That would make me even more worried - at least weed is a natural product and you can see what's in it.

With pills and powders - who knows?
thats it.

N Dentressangle

3,442 posts

223 months

Monday 2nd July 2012
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You could always get in touch with these guys and see what they think?

http://www.talktofrank.com/drug/mephedrone

Good luck.

Mobile Chicane

20,853 posts

213 months

Monday 2nd July 2012
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Where's he getting the money from for all this? Your earlier post said his allowance had been stopped.

Sounds naff I know, but I do think that you, his mother, his biological father, and any other family with a stake in the lad's wellbeing need a round-table chat as to what you're going to do about it. Agree a course of action, and stick to it.

The choices he makes now will directly affect the rest of his life. 'Somehow' you have to get this through to him. He needs to knuckle under, and work hard. Yet he's been messing about with booze, then weed, and now this. He's about to start college, an environment in which there will be far less direct supervision than school, and many more opportunities to bunk off.

Rather than let him waste the summer sitting on his arse, could you somehow get him a factory / agricultural job? Make him pay you (at market rates) out of that for board and lodging. Agency / gangmaster work for minimum wage ought to show him what the reality of life will be like if he doesn't pull his socks up.

The Nur

9,168 posts

186 months

Monday 2nd July 2012
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Want me to have a word?

If he will take it from anyone it will be from a fkup

surveyor

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17,871 posts

185 months

Monday 2nd July 2012
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The money is an issue.

We've cracked down hard on him, and he claims his mates share.

His dad's pretty pissed off now, and while a round table discussion is not likely to happen he and my partner are communicating.

I'm plenty pissed off. I've tried being nice, and the problems getting worse. So I'm going to be mean.

He's been issued with a series of ultimatums (including getting a job). If I catch him doing drugs again he's off to his dad's. I'm not having our daughter around this crap.

He does not want that, as he has a much easier life here, and his dad runs a contract cleaning company = early start! We shall see.

Mobile Chicane

20,853 posts

213 months

Monday 2nd July 2012
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surveyor said:
The money is an issue.

We've cracked down hard on him, and he claims his mates share.

His dad's pretty pissed off now, and while a round table discussion is not likely to happen he and my partner are communicating.

I'm plenty pissed off. I've tried being nice, and the problems getting worse. So I'm going to be mean.

He's been issued with a series of ultimatums (including getting a job). If I catch him doing drugs again he's off to his dad's. I'm not having our daughter around this crap.

He does not want that, as he has a much easier life here, and his dad runs a contract cleaning company = early start! We shall see.
Good for you. Now's the time to play hardball.

It may be 20 years until he thanks you - ie. until he's seen how all his stoner mates lives have turned out - but he'll thank you in the end.



BlackVanDyke

9,932 posts

212 months

Monday 2nd July 2012
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Bloody difficult scary thing to deal with.

I've a cousin, much loved, who has severe and mostly unmedicated schizophrenia. He attempts to self-medicate with weed, alcohol and god knows what else, which mostly makes it worse, at least in terms of its impact on the rest of the family - can't talk about whether it feels better or worse inside his head.

I'm not suggesting your stepson is suffering from schizophrenia, by the way - just wanted to be clear there. Just noting that using weed to self-medicate some kind of distress is very common, and sometimes at least somewhat effective for some people.

I do think that this is the point where you need some medics involved, preferably someone with 'psych-' in their job title. Go and talk to your GP for starters, with or without stepson in tow, and ask to be put in touch with your local CAMHS - Child and Adolescent Mental Health Service. School could also possibly involve an Educational Psychologist, if it was thought necessary or helpful, to look at helping your stepson get through lessons without major strife, and learn as well as he can.

They're in the right position to assess what's going on and what, if anything, anybody needs to do about it.

All the best.