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wiliferus said:
So here I am, on a Monday night, having spoken to not another single soul since Friday, with tears rolling down my face, not knowing how I’m actually going to face life anytime soon.
I suppose what I’m trying to say, is outside looking in, first world problems right? No biggy?
With depression, they’re absolutely all consuming, and paralysing.
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by wiliferus on Monday 19th March 19:24[/footnote]
Please talk to someone. A close friend, brother, relative, anyone.I suppose what I’m trying to say, is outside looking in, first world problems right? No biggy?
With depression, they’re absolutely all consuming, and paralysing.
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by wiliferus on Monday 19th March 19:24[/footnote]
I know it's hard. :-(
It's been a while since I posted on here 
New job is going well - very busy compared to my last place and I like most of the people, just the usual frustrations with management. Not sure if I see myself spending several years here, but it'll do for now. Health wise I don't get to the gym as much as I would like but I am ticking along. Relationship wise I'm still single - I met a girl on a recent holiday who is from London and we clicked, so I'm still in touch with her although she's still travelling for another two months, but I guess we'll see if anything happens when she's back.
I've recently upped the dose to 25mg of Amitriptyline which is good for sleep but still find myself still having good and bad days mentally.
New job is going well - very busy compared to my last place and I like most of the people, just the usual frustrations with management. Not sure if I see myself spending several years here, but it'll do for now. Health wise I don't get to the gym as much as I would like but I am ticking along. Relationship wise I'm still single - I met a girl on a recent holiday who is from London and we clicked, so I'm still in touch with her although she's still travelling for another two months, but I guess we'll see if anything happens when she's back.
I've recently upped the dose to 25mg of Amitriptyline which is good for sleep but still find myself still having good and bad days mentally.
I believe that everyone has a maximum capacity of the amount of 'bad' they can take in life. Once that limit is reached, either by one big negative event, or a number of smaller ones, then even the smallest thing can tip you over the edge.
Life has ups and downs, and we can normally cope with the downs as being part of life. But once you are at maximum capacity then things change, thinking can become irrational and depression can set in.
The single biggest thing you can do to help rectify this it to recognise, admit and accept you are depressed. The next biggest thing you can do (and the hardest) is asking for help, whether that be a doctor/friend/partner etc.
When I was at my worst, I sat myself down and tried to identify every single thing that might be contributing to my depression. I found that the trigger event was work related and had occurred 12yrs previous, with more recent linked events compounding my problems, leading to my depression. The prescription my doctor gave me took 6 weeks to have effect, but it worked and pretty much put me back to normal, where I remained for about a year before needing to take the medication again for a while. Its probably something I will have to do for many years to come?
Life has ups and downs, and we can normally cope with the downs as being part of life. But once you are at maximum capacity then things change, thinking can become irrational and depression can set in.
The single biggest thing you can do to help rectify this it to recognise, admit and accept you are depressed. The next biggest thing you can do (and the hardest) is asking for help, whether that be a doctor/friend/partner etc.
When I was at my worst, I sat myself down and tried to identify every single thing that might be contributing to my depression. I found that the trigger event was work related and had occurred 12yrs previous, with more recent linked events compounding my problems, leading to my depression. The prescription my doctor gave me took 6 weeks to have effect, but it worked and pretty much put me back to normal, where I remained for about a year before needing to take the medication again for a while. Its probably something I will have to do for many years to come?
So today have been diagnosed with anxiety and depression.
They are confident a few sessions of councelling will do the trick and if not then some medication to work alongside the one on one sessions .
Never thought this was on the agenda in my life but then I guess no one ever does .
They are confident a few sessions of councelling will do the trick and if not then some medication to work alongside the one on one sessions .
Never thought this was on the agenda in my life but then I guess no one ever does .
FocusRS3 said:
So today have been diagnosed with anxiety and depression.
They are confident a few sessions of councelling will do the trick and if not then some medication to work alongside the one on one sessions .
Never thought this was on the agenda in my life but then I guess no one ever does .
Be glad you went to get help, alot of people, myself included are years from doing that They are confident a few sessions of councelling will do the trick and if not then some medication to work alongside the one on one sessions .
Never thought this was on the agenda in my life but then I guess no one ever does .
I posted a few pages back about my OH, thanks to those that replied. She’s been taking Setraline for a few weeks and the difference is notable. Not that it’s made her completely worry free & full of the joys but she’s thinking much more clearly, solving problems one by one and the fog has definitely lifted a bit. She’s had a lot of support from family & friends now that they know she’s struggling so all in all I’m very pleased I asked her to go & speak about it. Just thought I’d update for those worried about going to the docs, from this experience I’d say do it as soon as you’re ready, it could make a difference and hope it does.
Captain Smerc said:
It will get easier now that your gonna get some support . The good times are coming back , hang in there !
Be glad you went to get help, alot of people, myself included are years from doing that Why thank you.
I explained that at times i'm close to tears whilst at work and that the anxiety just 'fogs' my mind. He said its totally understandable and that the majority of people get anxiety and depression a couple of times in their lives.
He asked about self harming- i told him for years i'd always never understood it and followed the masses in saying "its the ones that are left behind that i feel sorry for" but that now i can understand why people do it. Its not that i feel like harming myself but my outlook has become very 'gloom and doom' whereas my wife is live for today and will always try and drag the positive out of a negative and she doesn't take life too seriously.
The thing is its all well and good trying to be like that but i think you are either that person or your not, so if your not you have no option but to manage it differently.
This has really hit me in the last 6 months and in a way its my own doing for stressing myself which has manifested itself into the anxiety and depression because i expect so much of myself. Maybe it relates to my childhood in some way and i guess the councilor will drag this out, or at least i hope so if indeed its the case.
My father was always a 'never accept defeat' man so that's how I've lived my life but maybe, just maybe, that was never me. see i'm doubting myself !
I got in so many fights at school because i was told i had to fight for everything so that's literally what i did! When i got home with a black eye he merely said "well you lost that one son, don't be beat again".
I'ts not that he was a bad father, in my eyes he was the best and gave me the strength to get where i am today but i feel i've no fight left in me and i self doubt myself now against my peers.
I can only think of how i can escape it all but for me its not reality. I've a family to provide for that depend on me. Thankfully i have a wonderfully supportive wife and two amazing kids and we are a VERY tight unit.
Anyway apologies for rambling but it helps to talk!
Tks for all the comments.
aaron_2000 said:
Be glad you went to get help, alot of people, myself included are years from doing that
Aaron, simply because i dont understand can you explain why you are years from getting some help? For me this was never part of the script of my life but here i am and so i think the best way is to get some help.
Thankfully mens mental health is taken seriously now.
All the best
twing said:
I posted a few pages back about my OH, thanks to those that replied. She’s been taking Setraline for a few weeks and the difference is notable. Not that it’s made her completely worry free & full of the joys but she’s thinking much more clearly, solving problems one by one and the fog has definitely lifted a bit. She’s had a lot of support from family & friends now that they know she’s struggling so all in all I’m very pleased I asked her to go & speak about it. Just thought I’d update for those worried about going to the docs, from this experience I’d say do it as soon as you’re ready, it could make a difference and hope it does.
CAn i ask if the medication made her feel unwell to start with? FocusRS3 said:
CAn i ask if the medication made her feel unwell to start with?
Are you asking because you are worried that if you do go on meds, you will feel unwell? If so, try not to worry. It's perfectly normal and only temporary. Also don't worry if 'feeling unwell' might push you further into a darker place when all you need is support. It won't. Because the positive effects of the drug will outweigh the possible side effects. I speak from experience.Naturally, the side effects strength will differ slightly from person to person with the same drug. Some people experience no side effects at all. Some other/stronger drugs will have more distinct side effects, more than Sertraline, but again given the condition and circumstance the benefits outweigh the side effects almost always, if the practitioner is doing their job properly.
FocusRS3 said:
CAn i ask if the medication made her feel unwell to start with?
Hi bud she described it as feeling a bit drunk for the first few days although she showed no signs of it outwardly. Although to be honest even if she’d been dog rough for a week it would have been worth it to be able to move on and see clearly.mantiacoro said:
Are you asking because you are worried that if you do go on meds, you will feel unwell? If so, try not to worry. It's perfectly normal and only temporary. Also don't worry if 'feeling unwell' might push you further into a darker place when all you need is support. It won't. Because the positive effects of the drug will outweigh the possible side effects. I speak from experience.
Naturally, the side effects strength will differ slightly from person to person with the same drug. Some people experience no side effects at all. Some other/stronger drugs will have more distinct side effects, more than Sertraline, but again given the condition and circumstance the benefits outweigh the side effects almost always, if the practitioner is doing their job properly.
No im asking as a few weeks back i went to my doctor who prescribed me a low dosage of Citalopram and it made me incredibly sick and even more anxious so ive become even more anti pills and now nervous of taking them . Naturally, the side effects strength will differ slightly from person to person with the same drug. Some people experience no side effects at all. Some other/stronger drugs will have more distinct side effects, more than Sertraline, but again given the condition and circumstance the benefits outweigh the side effects almost always, if the practitioner is doing their job properly.
They offered me something different but i declined.
FocusRS3 said:
No im asking as a few weeks back i went to my doctor who prescribed me a low dosage of Citalopram and it made me incredibly sick and even more anxious so ive become even more anti pills and now nervous of taking them .
They offered me something different but i declined.
That's understandable. Unfortunately the prescription of antidepressants is not always an accurate art. You might have to go through one or two to find the right one. Just like finding a therapist who f'its'. So try not to let it put you off. Therapy works, meds and therapy works even better. They offered me something different but i declined.
Sertraline may offer some benefit with less physical side effects like feeling drunk or nausea, that can be the case with Citalopram. What I'm alluding to is that not all will make you feel sick. Quite a few, however will, but you need to go through the first 2-4 weeks of feeling a bit choppy before you settle into it.
Speak to your GP again if you feel you need some med related assistance. The right one will make a positive difference and get you on the right road.
FocusRS3 said:
Aaron, simply because i dont understand can you explain why you are years from getting some help?
For me this was never part of the script of my life but here i am and so i think the best way is to get some help.
Thankfully mens mental health is taken seriously now.
All the best
Simply because I don't feel ready/bad enough to go to somebody yet, I imagine as I have more and more in my life to deal with in the coming years that'll change. For me this was never part of the script of my life but here i am and so i think the best way is to get some help.
Thankfully mens mental health is taken seriously now.
All the best
aaron_2000 said:
FocusRS3 said:
Aaron, simply because i dont understand can you explain why you are years from getting some help?
For me this was never part of the script of my life but here i am and so i think the best way is to get some help.
Thankfully mens mental health is taken seriously now.
All the best
Simply because I don't feel ready/bad enough to go to somebody yet, I imagine as I have more and more in my life to deal with in the coming years that'll change. For me this was never part of the script of my life but here i am and so i think the best way is to get some help.
Thankfully mens mental health is taken seriously now.
All the best
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