What footwear do you wear for squats?

What footwear do you wear for squats?

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SignalGruen

630 posts

201 months

Wednesday 1st February 2012
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Do-Win raised heel lifting shoes - helps with depth since I don't like putting plates under my heels.

gmh23

252 posts

181 months

Wednesday 1st February 2012
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SignalGruen said:
Do-Win raised heel lifting shoes - helps with depth since I don't like putting plates under my heels.
what do you mean by depth? and why do you need your heels raised for squatting?

didelydoo

5,528 posts

211 months

Wednesday 1st February 2012
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gmh23 said:
what do you mean by depth? and why do you need your heels raised for squatting?
Depth is the hip crease/joint going lower than the knee at the bottom of the squat- not a proper squat if this isn't achieved. You don't need your heels raised but it can help some people, depends on technique and flexibility.

Easty-5

1,423 posts

191 months

Wednesday 1st February 2012
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didelydoo said:
Depth is the hip crease/joint going lower than the knee at the bottom of the squat- not a proper squat if this isn't achieved. You don't need your heels raised but it can help some people, depends on technique and flexibility.
Not true. A parallel squat is a "proper" squat. Any further is classed as a deep squat. Not quite parallel is a shallow squat.

didelydoo

5,528 posts

211 months

Wednesday 1st February 2012
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Easty-5 said:
Not true. A parallel squat is a "proper" squat. Any further is classed as a deep squat. Not quite parallel is a shallow squat.
I'd say there are squats and there are high squats.

gmh23

252 posts

181 months

Thursday 2nd February 2012
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didelydoo said:
Depth is the hip crease/joint going lower than the knee at the bottom of the squat- not a proper squat if this isn't achieved. You don't need your heels raised but it can help some people, depends on technique and flexibility.
cheers for clearing that up, surely down to interpretation.

IMO having your femur parallel to the ground is a "proper" squat. Wouldn't want to try squatting anything heavy with half my feet on a disc, but I might give it a go with a light weight and see how it feels

Easty-5

1,423 posts

191 months

Thursday 2nd February 2012
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gmh23 said:
cheers for clearing that up, surely down to interpretation.

IMO having your femur parallel to the ground is a "proper" squat. Wouldn't want to try squatting anything heavy with half my feet on a disc, but I might give it a go with a light weight and see how it feels
You don't want half your foot on the disks, just your heel. I use disks and squat 110KG with no issues.

Hiromitsu11

3,214 posts

194 months

Thursday 2nd February 2012
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Easty-5 said:
You don't want half your foot on the disks, just your heel. I use disks and squat 110KG with no issues.
Do you just put the very end of your heel on the disk or all you heel? Tried this last week and couldn't get a feel for it at all

Easty-5

1,423 posts

191 months

Thursday 2nd February 2012
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I'd say approx. half of my heel, about 5cm or so. I use quite thin 2.5kg disks. You don't want them too thick. Are you having a good warm up and a really good stretch before doing squats?

Hiromitsu11

3,214 posts

194 months

Thursday 2nd February 2012
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Easty-5 said:
I'd say approx. half of my heel, about 5cm or so. I use quite thin 2.5kg disks. You don't want them too thick. Are you having a good warm up and a really good stretch before doing squats?
I wasn't previously. I've started doing now, see my thread on stretching/maintaining flexibility. What do you do in your warm up?

Easty-5

1,423 posts

191 months

Thursday 2nd February 2012
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I usually do 5 mins on the bike to get the blood pumping in my legs, then spend a good 15-20mins doing mobility excercises/stretches (sprinter stretch, spidermans, leg swings etc) and trigger point therapy. I am usually quite tight through the hamstrings and hip flexors which doesn't help when it comes to squating. Trigger point therapy works wonders but is usually very, very uncomfortable.

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Thursday 2nd February 2012
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didelydoo said:
I'd say there are squats (ATG Olympic style) and there are sissy girlymen squats.
Same here.biggrin

I used to wear some sort of flat gola things. They offer no support. Now that my physio has pointed out I have slight support issues on my feet I shall be purchasing some solid heeled weightlifting shoes.
I did try some heavyish deadlifting in my trainers. I wouldn't wish to go above 220ish in them.

Easty-5

1,423 posts

191 months

Thursday 2nd February 2012
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Causes for disqualification of a Squat:
1. Failure to observe the Chief Referee’s signals at the commencement or completion of a lift.
2. Double bouncing at the bottom of the lift, or any downward movement during the ascent.
3. Failure to assume an upright position with the knees locked at the commencement or completion of the lift.
4. Failure to reach 90 degrees or have the beeper sound.
5. Contact of the elbows or upper arms with the legs, if there is supporting that might aid the lifter.
6. Any dropping or dumping of the bar after completion of the lift.
7. Failure to comply with any of the items outlined under Rules of Performance for the squat.

Taken straight from the IPF rulebook. Parallel squats are technically proper squats whether you agree or not.

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Thursday 2nd February 2012
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Easty-5 said:
Taken straight from the IPF rulebook. Parallel squats are technically proper squats whether you agree or not.
In the eyes of the IPF, which is a power-lifting organisation. 90 degree squats are technically correct 90 degree squats, not full squats whether you agree or not.biggrin

Easty-5

1,423 posts

191 months

Thursday 2nd February 2012
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Halb said:
In the eyes of the IPF, which is a power-lifting organisation. 90 degree squats are technically correct 90 degree squats, not full squats whether you agree or not.biggrin
So how would you describe this squat? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygCRtex_GDo&fea...

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Thursday 2nd February 2012
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Easty-5 said:
So how would you describe this squat? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygCRtex_GDo&fea...
A 90°/parallel squat.

Easty-5

1,423 posts

191 months

Thursday 2nd February 2012
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Halb said:
A 90°/parallel squat.

A "proper" squat or not?

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Thursday 2nd February 2012
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Easty-5 said:

A "proper" squat or not?
It was just a joke before. The parallel version shown above is as much a 'proper' (if proper has any real meaning) squat as an Olympic/ATG/Full squat.
beer

markcoznottz

7,155 posts

225 months

Thursday 2nd February 2012
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Loads of macho bullst stuff mainly american about the depth of your squatting online. They are obsessed with it. Some people just can't get that low anyway. It's unatural to bend down that low under load under any circumstances, your ligaments and connective tissue must be very stretched. That's just my take , I have no issue with it And have no proof it is riskier, , just not for me.

A more intelligent method would surely be to squat the most limited movement you can in perfect form that allows you to pack size/ strength on.

didelydoo

5,528 posts

211 months

Thursday 2nd February 2012
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markcoznottz said:
Loads of macho bullst stuff mainly american about the depth of your squatting online. They are obsessed with it. Some people just can't get that low anyway. It's unatural to bend down that low under load under any circumstances, your ligaments and connective tissue must be very stretched. That's just my take , I have no issue with it And have no proof it is riskier, , just not for me.

A more intelligent method would surely be to squat the most limited movement you can in perfect form that allows you to pack size/ strength on.
Proper squat- to depth or lower (as per my definition above). Anything else isn't a proper squat.

It's the same as benching but stopping 6" higher than your chest.