PH Transformation Thread 2012 - Chat

[Ordinary_Chap]

Muncle Trogg said:

Ordinary_Chap said:

I feel for you, I suffer badly with shin splints from years of running on hard surfaces in boots when I was in the military.

I was offered an operation but decided to work around it by being careful on where/how I run.

I found running on grass/gravel/mud helps a great as does stretching with some ankle stretches and just moderating how much I run.

For me though its not the end of the world as I much prefer to weight lift these days but still try to run one to twice a week.

What operation were you offered (just out of curiosity)? I'm fairly convinced mine is down to over-pronation so should hopefully not mean an end to running.

Have also spent the afternoon reading up on Mortons Toe (basically a short first metatarsal bone) after reading a runners blog where this was diagnosed as the root cause for recurring shin splints.

Bare with me, it was 2002 when I was offered an op so I may not remember it fully. One of my issues they suggested was most likely the muscle that runs behind or near the shin bone is in a sheath and the sheath was stopping the muscle from expanding/growing causing pain and they could do something with the sheath.

I turned it down point blank once I realised it was manageable by managing the amount of running I was doing and the surfaces/footwear I was using.

I went to a biometrics expert, had my running style measure, new trainers and customer insoles and whilst it helped a small amount, it didn't really cure the issue so I'd just periodically not run for a month or so at a time.

I still have a problem though for instance if I speed walk wearing shoes through the city my shins start to hurt relatively quickly, I also get pain in the bottom of my feet too.

[Ordinary_Chap]

I personally think there is a lot of value in logging progress over time. I usually just remember in the gym and then write it down at home.

I did legs tonight and managed 200kg squat for 5 1/2 (last rep assisted) which is pretty good as I've not been strength training for sometime.

My break has been great for me in recharging my batteries as I was quite worn out from nearly 18 months of training without a break.




So who is going to post results on the 1st? Pics and/or stats.

Edited by Ordinary_Chap on Tuesday 28th August 19:37

[Ordinary_Chap]

Hoofy said:

Bugger. I had better start training.

Slacker

[Ordinary_Chap]

Hoofy said:

Ordinary_Chap said:

Hoofy said:

Bugger. I had better start training.

Slacker

I'll just pedal for 48 hours. No problems!

That would work, Jade Goody style! (for those that remember her marathon even and she started training 3 days before the 24 mile run lol!)

So I'm saying you're like Jade Goody but don't wear dresses....

[Ordinary_Chap]

BenM77 said:

Ordinary_Chap said:

I did legs tonight and managed 200kg squat for 5 1/2 (last rep assisted) which is pretty good as I've not been strength training for sometime.

Edited by Ordinary_Chap on Tuesday 28th August 19:37

That's good going mate, have you started DC training now ?

Not yet, I'm going to a festival at the start of next month (Bestival) and then holiday in Turkey for a couple of weeks so I'm going to wait before giving it a full effort run for say 6 months. I may start it in October or at the start of next year, I'm undecided as I may slim right down until Christmas then hit it hard in the early part of next year.

Lee

[Ordinary_Chap]

Hoofy said:

Ordinary_Chap said:

Hoofy said:

Ordinary_Chap said:

Hoofy said:

Bugger. I had better start training.

Slacker

I'll just pedal for 48 hours. No problems!

That would work, Jade Goody style! (for those that remember her marathon even and she started training 3 days before the 24 mile run lol!)

So I'm saying you're like Jade Goody but don't wear dresses....

Well, you're welcome to play out that fantasy in your mind. Just don't knock on my door and expect to come in for coffee or bumsex.

Disappointing......

[Ordinary_Chap]

Hoofy said:

didelydoo said:

Logging everything is quite important I think- excellent gauge of progress. I've got a detailed log of every session I've done in the last 2 and a bit years on another site (Sugden Barbell). Good to look back and see how you've improved, also to see trends in what works and what doesn't.

That reminds me. Around January when I was slowly healing from buggering my shoulder, the shoulder press machine was set at "7" and that was touch and go. Last week, I managed "11". This week, I thought I'd push my luck... managed "13"! (Before any of you say it, I do db shoulder press mostly but wanted to see how much I could manage with the machine.)

The MACHINE? THE MACHINE???

GET OUT!

This is a machine free zone you lightweight!

[Ordinary_Chap]

LordGrover said:

I've done next to feckall.

Early on in this challenge I had the excuse of the hernia and subsequent repair but since then I've gorged on crap and drunk far too much alcohol. To put the tin hat on it, I've also been pretty much AWOL from the gym too.

I'll be making a proper effort from 1 September to try and shed a few KGs before BTaP which is 10 November.
10 week transformation; here we come!

Slacker!

Has your car arrived yet? (I want pics!)

I think you've got a reasonable excuse and the truth is I'm sure the extra time is good for the hernia to recover with!

[Ordinary_Chap]

Hoofy said:

It's also helped redefine my interests in life and business somewhat.

Serious question, why is that buddy?

[Ordinary_Chap]

Smitters said:

Ditto to the above - this last six moths has had a serious impact on my life. I bit off more than I could chew, but I made the essentials stick so I'm looking forward to the next six months (there's a winter contest, right?) where I can be a little more focussed.

I'm glad its been a positive experience! There will be a winter challenge if we have enough people who want to continue these challenges!

Lee

[Ordinary_Chap]

Hoofy said:

Ordinary_Chap said:

Hoofy said:

It's also helped redefine my interests in life and business somewhat.

Serious question, why is that buddy?

Well, being a geek and therapist, I find the science behind food/weight loss interesting, previously from a psychological viewpoint; throw in the effects of exercise (both with and without weights) and it's a whole new element I'd never considered before (bar "do regular exercise"). I vowed never to do abstract, repetitive exercise and just get fit via sport but have completely changed my viewpoint on it. I've also helped many just starting out on their weight loss journey and seen promising results. Your thread has encouraged me to focus my attention because of the time constraint. I'm still not where I want to be because I've avoided going too drastic, preferring to make it a lifestyle choice rather than a quick fix/fail later thing but my body is certainly moving in the right direction.

As an aside, I've noticed that by being really careful with my food intake (not eating too much or too little), my strength is still growing despite being what outsiders call "on a diet".

That's a very interesting answer.

I love training and finding ways of pushing myself but I think I get the most gratification from helping others succeed, I'm the same in work and focus a large proportion of my time working on the people that work for me.

I've sometimes experienced more strength on a calorie restricted diet. I believe (this isn't scientific) that the body can perform its best at much lower fat levels and I'm talking about strength although overtime if you want muscle growth and progressive strength increases you need to increase calories if that makes sense.

[Ordinary_Chap]

Sushi said:

Ordinary_Chap said:

I'm glad its been a positive experience! There will be a winter challenge if we have enough people who want to continue these challenges!

Lee

I'll gladly keep this up and move on to the next challenge This one gave me the motivation I needed, and seriously take a look at the difference in my food diaries from when I started to now, I've learned so much, and there is so much more to learn and improve on.

I'll post my results pics up tonight as I won't have time this weekend or tomorrow. I decided against buying a new car just yet (I'd have to finance it now and that goes against everything PH ) so I've bought 4 new tyres and a new battery for the mustang and will roll with it for another couple of months.

ETA: link to my food diary, started eating clean this past monday, http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/diary/yo_sushi

Good man!

I'm a typical PH person as well and like to buy everything in cash!

You've done great so far anyway Sushi and should be proud of yourself!

[Ordinary_Chap]

LordGrover said:

Ordinary_Chap said:

Slacker!

Has your car arrived yet? (I want pics!)

I think you've got a reasonable excuse and the truth is I'm sure the extra time is good for the hernia to recover with!

Funnily enough, popped to dealers at lunchtime...



Pick it up Saturday.

That looks bloody awesome! I really like the way these things look.

What car are you moving from?

If you've got the time it would good to see you write up some of your experiences with it in the 'readers cars' section.

[Ordinary_Chap]

LordGrover said:

Chopping in the 350Z GT for this one. I'll miss it, but life moves on...

I'm with a few above, like hoofy if I've interpreted correctly. It's as much about the journey as the destination.
What's more, unlike others above, I'm too selfish to help others so it's purely self gratification if I'm honest.

Good luck with the '86! The 350Z is a fine car as well, I do like the sound of them.

Anyway if everyone wants to move to a winter challenge stick your names down and we will get a new set of threads going over the weekend.

Lee

[Ordinary_Chap]

Sushi said:

Well, my results are in! No turning back now :P

Well done

[Ordinary_Chap]

deadmau5 said:

LordGrover said:

Enhanced, no?

He has veins... on his shin

I would guess yes.

He's well known for his 'enhancement' like most wrestlers/ex wrestlers.

Still he's worked bloody hard for those results even if he's been assisted, you don't get to where he is without a bucket load of determination, intelligence and guts!

[Ordinary_Chap]

theshrew said:

Question time - Does muscle grow at the same rate as you can loose weight ?

Take Sushi for eg he's shaved off loads of timber the last few months. If he had the correct diet etc would he build up as his muscle as fast as he lost the weight ? Presume it would take a lot longer to gain the muscle ?

The answer is no.

It's far easier to lose fat than it is to gain muscle.

The rate of which muscle is gained depends on a lot of factors in the same way as the rate of fat loss depends on activity and diet.