Drinks: What is more healthy?

Drinks: What is more healthy?

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daz3210

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5,000 posts

241 months

Saturday 19th May 2012
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Situation is I have decided to cut down my beer intake.

But, I am used to drinking a fair bit, and I am thinking maybe it won't be too healthy to just cut out my liquid intake.

I can drink plain water, but find it a bit boring.

Local supermarket do bottles of Sparkling Water and Soda Water for not a lot of pennies. But I am unclear what the difference is between plain sparkling and soda.

IS one more healthy than the other, and are there any side effects of drinking such (except the obvious that my body will have to deal with the gas)?

DoubleSix

11,718 posts

177 months

Saturday 19th May 2012
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Mate of mine is a boxer and drinks Vodka, lime & Soda...

Very low cal option apparently.

daz3210

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241 months

Saturday 19th May 2012
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DoubleSix said:
Mate of mine is a boxer and drinks Vodka, lime & Soda...

Very low cal option apparently.
I'm wanting to cut the alcohol though.

Lime and soda is under consideration though.


DoubleSix

11,718 posts

177 months

Saturday 19th May 2012
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Oh right I see...

Just avoid those drinks that contain alcohol then, you should be fine.

HTH


; )

Chaz9950

1,128 posts

145 months

Saturday 19th May 2012
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Soda, or sparkling water is just carbonated spring water. It has no extra calories, as the fizzy bit in the drink is only CO2. And seeing as CO2 has no calorific value or nutrition, it has no energy.

If you wanted to keep up a high-volume liquid intake (I do as it keeps my hunger under a bit more control).

Any of the no-sugar concentrated squash you can get from any of the big supermarkets goes quite well with water and fizzy water - like your own, tasty fizzy pop. And definitely a bit more interesting than plain tap-water.

daz3210

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241 months

Saturday 19th May 2012
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Is it the same thing?

What I am thinking is I am used to drinking a certain amount of liquid, so should I continue to do so?

BlackVanDyke

9,932 posts

212 months

Saturday 19th May 2012
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daz3210 said:
Is it the same thing?

What I am thinking is I am used to drinking a certain amount of liquid, so should I continue to do so?
Soda and fizzy water are different - taste different, sparkling water is just H2O with a load of carbon dioxide dissolved in it by pressure, soda water actually contains Stuff - quinine, I think? - and is chemically quite different. Both contain no calories, though.

Broadly yes, although you'll actually hydrate a bit more efficiently from water than from beer etc. Basically you want to keep yourself at a level (assuming normally functioning kidneys) where your pee is just barely straw-coloured - if it's visibly yellow or orange then you definitely need to drink more water. (beetroot and some antibiotics can affect the colour of your pee).

Sparkling water with just a bit of nice 'high juice' squash (contains sugar but not artifical sweeteners) or even plain apple juice is pretty nice.

Chaz9950

1,128 posts

145 months

Saturday 19th May 2012
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BlackVanDyke said:
Soda and fizzy water are different - taste different, sparkling water is just H2O with a load of carbon dioxide dissolved in it by pressure, soda water actually contains Stuff - quinine, I think? - and is chemically quite different. Both contain no calories, though.
FIZZY DRINK FAIL

Man, I'm rubbish... Ha!

I never knew there was a difference between soda water and fizzy water - just thought it was a posh name... paperbaghehe

And anything with alcohol is not good a hydrating you - the alcohol is a diarrhetic, so you're body will pee out the liquid it's trying to absorb.

As BVD mentioned, you can get squash drinks with less chemicals in, but have sugar. I'm trying to cut out my sugars, so choose artificially sweetened stuff.

GranderTransit

189 posts

180 months

Saturday 19th May 2012
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BlackVanDyke said:
Sparkling water with just a bit of nice 'high juice' squash (contains sugar but not artifical sweeteners) or even plain apple juice is pretty nice.
That was what I had always thought, until the last time I bought some Robinsons high juice, it gave me a massive headache. So I reread the ingredients to discover it now had artificial sweetener in it.

BlackVanDyke

9,932 posts

212 months

Saturday 19th May 2012
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Chaz9950 said:
BlackVanDyke said:
Soda and fizzy water are different - taste different, sparkling water is just H2O with a load of carbon dioxide dissolved in it by pressure, soda water actually contains Stuff - quinine, I think? - and is chemically quite different. Both contain no calories, though.
FIZZY DRINK FAIL

Man, I'm rubbish... Ha!

I never knew there was a difference between soda water and fizzy water - just thought it was a posh name... paperbaghehe

And anything with alcohol is not good a hydrating you - the alcohol is a diarrhetic, so you're body will pee out the liquid it's trying to absorb.

As BVD mentioned, you can get squash drinks with less chemicals in, but have sugar. I'm trying to cut out my sugars, so choose artificially sweetened stuff.
bangheadbangheadbanghead

I meant tonic water. Soda water is indeed the same as ordinary fizzy. I'm a bloody idiot. Sorry about that.

As you were.

paperbag

TheDiplomat

72 posts

145 months

Saturday 19th May 2012
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Soda water gets its bubbles from bicarboante of soda being added to water.

Sparkling water gets its bubbles from bubbling CO2 through the water.

smile

pokethepope

2,657 posts

189 months

Saturday 19th May 2012
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Nope, bicarb is used to adjust the acidity, the bubbles only come from adding CO2.

daz3210

Original Poster:

5,000 posts

241 months

Saturday 19th May 2012
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pokethepope said:
Nope, bicarb is used to adjust the acidity, the bubbles only come from adding CO2.
Does the bicarb make it more acidic or less?

R300will

3,799 posts

152 months

Saturday 19th May 2012
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daz3210 said:
pokethepope said:
Nope, bicarb is used to adjust the acidity, the bubbles only come from adding CO2.
Does the bicarb make it more acidic or less?
Alkaline. Ribena is good

Mobile Chicane

20,844 posts

213 months

Saturday 19th May 2012
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Something with a high vitamin C content.

The RDA of 60mg is the minimum required to prevent scurvy, however you need more than that.

Vitamin C is a powerful anti-oxidant and lowers blood pressure. 500mg daily is what you should be having.

Get a juicer and juice oranges and kiwi fruits.

oldbanger

4,316 posts

239 months

Saturday 19th May 2012
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Chaz9950 said:
FIZZY DRINK FAIL

Man, I'm rubbish... Ha!

I never knew there was a difference between soda water and fizzy water - just thought it was a posh name... paperbaghehe

And anything with alcohol is not good a hydrating you - the alcohol is a diarrhetic, so you're body will pee out the liquid it's trying to absorb.

As BVD mentioned, you can get squash drinks with less chemicals in, but have sugar. I'm trying to cut out my sugars, so choose artificially sweetened stuff.
You guys might be confusing tonic water and soda water. I drink a lot of both, without alcohol.

sparkling water is usually naturally sparkling mineral water - nature has dissolved CO2 into it - but can be artifically carbonated water

soda water is just another name for artifically carbonated tap water

tonic water is sparkling water with quinine, and these days also sugar/sweetner, dissolved in it

... personally I try to avoid fruit juices along with sugar ... I enjoy having a fully functioning liver



TheDiplomat

72 posts

145 months

Sunday 20th May 2012
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oldbanger said:
... personally I try to avoid fruit juices along with sugar ... I enjoy having a fully functioning liver
Eh? Explain the liver bit?

oldbanger

4,316 posts

239 months

Sunday 20th May 2012
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TheDiplomat said:
oldbanger said:
... personally I try to avoid fruit juices along with sugar ... I enjoy having a fully functioning liver
Eh? Explain the liver bit?
Fructose is quite strongly correlated with non-alcoholic fatty liver disease and is directly blamed for the disease by many hepatologists. The disease is now quite commonly seen in obese children.

Unfortunately many unsweetened fruit juices contain just as much fructose as sugary fizzy drinks

for more info see:
http://www.nature.com/nrgastro/journal/v7/n5/abs/n...
http://www.medpagetoday.com/Gastroenterology/Gener...
http://www.health.harvard.edu/press_releases/too-m...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM
http://www.drbriffa.com/2006/11/10/juicy-details-w...

TheDiplomat

72 posts

145 months

Sunday 20th May 2012
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oldbanger said:
Fructose is quite strongly correlated with non-alcoholic fatty liver disease and is directly blamed for the disease by many hepatologists. The disease is now quite commonly seen in obese children.

Unfortunately many unsweetened fruit juices contain just as much fructose as sugary fizzy drinks

for more info see:
http://www.nature.com/nrgastro/journal/v7/n5/abs/n...
http://www.medpagetoday.com/Gastroenterology/Gener...
http://www.health.harvard.edu/press_releases/too-m...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM
http://www.drbriffa.com/2006/11/10/juicy-details-w...
Cheers, interesting stuff. I assume the fructose -> glucose, converted to fat via insulin which ends up in the liver.

Food (!) for thought. smile

oldbanger

4,316 posts

239 months

Sunday 20th May 2012
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TheDiplomat said:
Cheers, interesting stuff. I assume the fructose -> glucose, converted to fat via insulin which ends up in the liver.

Food (!) for thought. smile
Nope. Glucose and fructose are totally different chemicals. One cannot be converted directly to the other.

Fructose can only be burned in the liver, glucose can be burned anywhere.


Edited by oldbanger on Sunday 20th May 19:49