PH Transformation Winter Thread 2012 - Chat

[Hoofy]

theshrew said:

Thats a fair point TBH id never thought about it like that. Ive just been going on every other day being good apart from that 1 meal. 1 meal wouldnt matter type of thing.

My meal intervals are something like this

Pre workout first thing in a morning is just a strong brew

Then breakfast / lunch / dinner

As of today ive added some peanut butter between breakfast and lunch and will add a shake between lunch and dinner to try and bump the calories up.

I was going to do that Chris Gethin trainer but as i am at the moment i couldnt eat that ammount of food as frequent as that.

Glad ive asked now as ive some ideas to play about with. Thanks

Some people are of the opinion that cheat meals should be reserved for those under 10% bodyfat! I don't think most people could last on a diet without cheat meals, though.

PB is a good food for ramping up calorie intake. Which reminds me... aiming for 1000 before the gym this evening.

[theshrew]

Hoofy said:

Some people are of the opinion that cheat meals should be reserved for those under 10% bodyfat! I don't think most people could last on a diet without cheat meals, though.

PB is a good food for ramping up calorie intake. Which reminds me... aiming for 1000 before the gym this evening.

Yeah i agree. I dont mind eating the stuff in the week etc but a cheat meal is like a little reward each week. Having said id rather not have a cheat meal than give up ale nooooooooooo way id give up ale totally.

[Hoofy]

theshrew said:

Yeah i agree. I dont mind eating the stuff in the week etc but a cheat meal is like a little reward each week. Having said id rather not have a cheat meal than give up ale nooooooooooo way id give up ale totally.

And you don't have to. Log everything that goes in your mouth. It's simple, really.

That reminds me, I need to restock my cider.

[Asterix]

theshrew said:

Hoofy said:

Some people are of the opinion that cheat meals should be reserved for those under 10% bodyfat! I don't think most people could last on a diet without cheat meals, though.

PB is a good food for ramping up calorie intake. Which reminds me... aiming for 1000 before the gym this evening.

Yeah i agree. I dont mind eating the stuff in the week etc but a cheat meal is like a little reward each week. Having said id rather not have a cheat meal than give up ale nooooooooooo way id give up ale totally.

In three weeks time, I'm going to order 50 gallons of curry, put it in the bath, swim around a bit then eat the lot

[Hoofy]

Asterix said:

In three weeks time, I'm going to order 50 gallons of curry, put it in the bath, swim around a bit then eat the lot

Even if you'd been training before the bath, I doubt you'd notice you'd been swimming in it when you eat it.

[Asterix]

I can't believe how disciplined I've been. Middle of the 10th week and I can safely say I haven't cheated on any meals. Even When I was away in Nepal, I purposely chose to order just a grilled protein and greens.

My only slip up has been a couple of glasses of wine and even those have left me feeling crap, I haven't enjoyed them and feel like I've let myself down badly.

Daft really but I feel that I've put so much effort in and now I really don't want anything to get in the way of the results.

Bit of a bugger that I've got a wedding to go to this weekend then

[theshrew]

Enough was enough so bit the bullet yesterday and rang the docs. Managed to get a appointment ( SHOCK ) Ive got 2 different packs of stuff to take hopefully its the start of dumping normally. Got to go back in a month to see how im getting on.

Training this morning was a few weights and then a 15min jog and 10 min HIIT sprint / jog.

Will be having a swim at lunch hopefully see a fine little honey who's been going the last few weeks :-)

[theshrew]

My Shoulders are really lacking can you chaps point me in the right direction of the best movements to to to build them up.

At the moment im doing

1 of Shoulder press bar or Seated dumbell press alternate weeks
1 of Bent over rows bar or dumbells alternate weeks
Side raises
Front raises

Does that look ok or could i improve on this ?

[deadmau5]

theshrew said:

My Shoulders are really lacking can you chaps point me in the right direction of the best movements to to to build them up.

At the moment im doing

1 of Shoulder press bar or Seated dumbell press alternate weeks
1 of Bent over rows bar or dumbells alternate weeks
Side raises
Front raises

Does that look ok or could i improve on this ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLPxwuGUZBY

I've added those to my shoulder workout. Make sure you start off light to get the technique nailed. I started off with about 30kg and can now do 50kg 3x8. They're called snatch grip behind neck press, btw.

Edited by deadmau5 on Friday 9th November 11:15

[LordGrover]

Don't fancy that much - looks too risky for little gain over a regular press.

I'm quite pleased with my shoulders over the last year or so - nothing special just doing it right. The exercises you list are fine. Although the muscles are quite small, they get worked pretty much every upper body movement and some leg exercises too. I wouldn't concentrate too hard on one particular group unless I was well advanced, which I'm not and never likely to be. A good set of workouts covering the whole body is enough for most of us - it's more about form, discipline and consistency than any special exercise or group of exercises. IMO.

[theshrew]

Cheers chaps.

The form part of things is what im trying to learn about the most at the moment.
Learning slowly as i go, also now have more of a idea of what i can and cant lift. Ive started to up the weight now.

This morning was chest and Tri - my fav day

Most weight ive lifted so far and id go more if i had a spotter (Defo dont want to get stuck under the bar again )

Cardio today was only walking on the treadmill :-( yesterday after around lunch time my leg was killing me and again this morning. Got to work after the gym and now i have no pain at all. Trapped nerve maybe ?

[theshrew]

Ordinary_Chap said:

Are you trying to get big or strong or a bit of both? If so what %? Answering these questions will really determine the best path for you and weight training.

Lee

Bit of both really i suppose, if i had to pick one id pref size over strengh.

Since ive been back at it ive been using free weights for everything ( which is kind new for me ) apart from some legs stuff. Just been doing 3 or 4 x 10 reps for upper body stuff so far.

Started off with light weight so i got used to it and with the aim of slowly building over a few weeks to a real working weight for me.

This week ive gone heavy ish at that rep range. Next week i was going to stay at the same weight and go for 12 reps see how i get on.

Does that sound like im going in the right direction ?

[theshrew]

Cheers for that. Will watch it when I get home. Any tips are good tips :-)

I would really benefit from having done help / guidance when I'm in the gym. I'm gonna ask a lad I no to come with me so I can tell what I'm doing wrong etc.

[Hoofy]

As another consequence of the previous Transformation Thread:
ISTR someone linking to an article on Lyle McDonald's website to do with ways of overcoming lactose intolerance. (I dunno, those lactoses coming into this country, taking our jobs, stealing our wimin!) For the last twenty years, if I drank so much as a white tea, I'd be bloated and my next "toilet visit" would be "showery" from the rear end. Not ideal as I liked milk in my tea and only made the connection between milk and "toilet problems" at university.

Anyway, Lyle's article talked about eating more yoghurt (which for some reason I seem to be able to handle), so I have been trying to eat 1-2 pots a day for the last 6 months.

Yesterday, I decided to give it a test - I had half a teacup of whole milk (it was delicious). Result? No "toilet problems"!

Gonna give it a few days and try a whole cup of milk then a mug! I want to try an old favourite: cornflakes in milk and sugar, too.

[theshrew]

Had a week off working out last week (working away). To much drink and food wasnt particually clean but kept it as clean as i could.

/\ Fecks me right off not being able to do what i want food or workout wise. I was going to just run a few times but i forgot to pack my trainers UGH STOOPID !!!

Back at it this week, cant wait i really want to get stuck in before Xmas.

[Hoofy]

Ordinary_Chap said:

Hoofy said:

As another consequence of the previous Transformation Thread:
ISTR someone linking to an article on Lyle McDonald's website to do with ways of overcoming lactose intolerance. (I dunno, those lactoses coming into this country, taking our jobs, stealing our wimin!) For the last twenty years, if I drank so much as a white tea, I'd be bloated and my next "toilet visit" would be "showery" from the rear end. Not ideal as I liked milk in my tea and only made the connection between milk and "toilet problems" at university.

Anyway, Lyle's article talked about eating more yoghurt (which for some reason I seem to be able to handle), so I have been trying to eat 1-2 pots a day for the last 6 months.

Yesterday, I decided to give it a test - I had half a teacup of whole milk (it was delicious). Result? No "toilet problems"!

Gonna give it a few days and try a whole cup of milk then a mug! I want to try an old favourite: cornflakes in milk and sugar, too.

Ah Lyle, once of the most knowledgeable and interesting nutritionists around!

I love reading his stuff and the diets & information he has provided has allowed me to make changes like no-one else I've read.

Further to this, I drank 1 litre of Yazoo chocolate milk (90% milk). It was so nice. I only meant to drink 300ml.

No problems of a toilet kind!

[Hoofy]

Ordinary_Chap said:

That yazoo stuff is addictive!

I always do things like that.... mmm this is nice, just one more sip....

Fancy being my anabuddy? We can binge and purge together.

[Hoofy]

Ordinary_Chap said:

Sure thing!

[LordGrover]

Ordinary_Chap said:

That yazoo stuff is addictive!

I always do things like that.... mmm this is nice, just one more sip....

[theshrew]

Any of you lot done Keto ? Any good ?

Fancy trying something different just to see what happens.