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dangerousB said:
I'll go out on a limb and say you'll not get within 2 minutes of that.
And that's not me being disrespectful . . . to run a sub 20 5k takes some impressive muscular endurance, let alone 2 or 3 minutes quicker (which is orders of magnitude tougher than you'd think to achieve).
I'm not sure what sort of footie you play, but even if it's 11 a side, I doubt very much whether you'd build the ME necessary for the sorts of times you're talking about playing just 3 times a week.
I don't think i've ever lost the muscular endurance I gained from being a competitive swimmerAnd that's not me being disrespectful . . . to run a sub 20 5k takes some impressive muscular endurance, let alone 2 or 3 minutes quicker (which is orders of magnitude tougher than you'd think to achieve).
I'm not sure what sort of footie you play, but even if it's 11 a side, I doubt very much whether you'd build the ME necessary for the sorts of times you're talking about playing just 3 times a week.
I swam for Borough of Kirklees. Was top boy in Yorkshire at 12 but by 15 I'd lost interest really. I was never going to be good enough to make it to the top so didn't really see the point in spending all my spare time trundling up and down a pool
As for ditching the football for running, I don't really enjoy running all that much to be honest. I might start looking in to doing triathlons as I'm a decent swimmer and runner although I've never cycled
As for ditching the football for running, I don't really enjoy running all that much to be honest. I might start looking in to doing triathlons as I'm a decent swimmer and runner although I've never cycled
Greenhead Park is where I do my Parkrun (free weekly 5k run at 9:00am every Saturday morning) You should come and do it sometime. It'll be a close race between us I think as I did it in 18:29 yesterday myself. Really great first time for your first run, you could become a good runner if you wanted.
Read this with interest as someone said to me that I shouldn't have any issue doing a sub 20 based on my aerobic fitness from cycling. Personally I don't think I could, was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on how aerobic systems built in another endurance sport would carry over?
I've done them before in around 25 mins, but I've lost 3.5 stone and am far fitter now. So not really a benchmark. Now cycling season is drawing to a close I want to do some parkruns.
I've done them before in around 25 mins, but I've lost 3.5 stone and am far fitter now. So not really a benchmark. Now cycling season is drawing to a close I want to do some parkruns.
Well done. Now, get a shed of a bike (or a carbon super bling bike, but don't in case you hate it) and go do a sprint triathlon. Go. Now. Or at least have a look at some local results. You'll do well, as you have the technically hardest discipline licked.
Oh, and git. Never gone sub 20. Is a target...
Oh, and git. Never gone sub 20. Is a target...
Smitters said:
Well done. Now, get a shed of a bike (or a carbon super bling bike, but don't in case you hate it) and go do a sprint triathlon. Go. Now. Or at least have a look at some local results. You'll do well, as you have the technically hardest discipline licked.
Oh, and git. Never gone sub 20. Is a target...
How many weeks of training do you think it would take to be competitive in one of these? I mean over 50-100 meters of swimming I could give anyone a good race but 750 meters is a bloody long way if you haven't been training much. Then to get on a bike for 20k followed by a 5k run seems like a considerable amount of cardiovascular effort. I'd be shagged for days after thatOh, and git. Never gone sub 20. Is a target...
okgo said:
Read this with interest as someone said to me that I shouldn't have any issue doing a sub 20 based on my aerobic fitness from cycling. Personally I don't think I could, was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on how aerobic systems built in another endurance sport would carry over?
I've done them before in around 25 mins, but I've lost 3.5 stone and am far fitter now. So not really a benchmark. Now cycling season is drawing to a close I want to do some parkruns.
Hmm It is quite a different combination of leg muscles for running, I cycle and run and really notice if I have neglected my efforts in one area. I've done them before in around 25 mins, but I've lost 3.5 stone and am far fitter now. So not really a benchmark. Now cycling season is drawing to a close I want to do some parkruns.
Cardio wise obviously you will be fine, but it is quite easy to be over confident and do some small muscle injuries heading off super quick.
My advice would be to pace yourself a couple at your previous timings of 25 mins, get a few under your belt as it were, and then go race and see what you can do.
But yes the cardio carries over very well indeed.
boothy1987 said:
How many weeks of training do you think it would take to be competitive in one of these? I mean over 50-100 meters of swimming I could give anyone a good race but 750 meters is a bloody long way if you haven't been training much. Then to get on a bike for 20k followed by a 5k run seems like a considerable amount of cardiovascular effort. I'd be shagged for days after that
The short and irritating answer is years. Or I don't know. Or a week. You could have to learn to ride without stabilisers...Put more sensibly, I would assume if you're quick over a couple of hundred metres, you could probably still smash out 750m considerably quicker than the vast majority, especially if you found a pool based sprint so you can tumble turn. Then just go almost flat out on the bike and flat out on the run until you heave up a lung. I reckon you'd be out there for less than seventy minutes unless you're a total spaz on a bike, which is less than a full footie match. Based on the fitness that's nabbed you a sub-20 minute 5km, I would suggest that as long as you meter out four effort, you could put in a very respectable bike leg and provided you've saved a bit, overtake people on the run. I doubt you'd be disappointed with the result. A mate of mine who's come from a swimming background came in at a shade over an hour and qualified to represent Great Britain (and his run was over 20 mins)... Tempted to give it a go now?
Yeah I'm really tempted to give it a go, as I know I'd be pretty good at it (without being big headed). It's years since I rode a bike but that would something you could pick pretty quick, granted it'd be by far my poorest leg.
Going to have a look in to and see what sort of training/teams there are around Huddersfield way
Going to have a look in to and see what sort of training/teams there are around Huddersfield way
Gargamel said:
Hmm It is quite a different combination of leg muscles for running, I cycle and run and really notice if I have neglected my efforts in one area.
Cardio wise obviously you will be fine, but it is quite easy to be over confident and do some small muscle injuries heading off super quick.
My advice would be to pace yourself a couple at your previous timings of 25 mins, get a few under your belt as it were, and then go race and see what you can do.
But yes the cardio carries over very well indeed.
Yeh, I mean muscle adaption doesn't take long, as you force it to a degree, but getting to that very high level of cardio fitness is where most people don't due to the effort it requires.Cardio wise obviously you will be fine, but it is quite easy to be over confident and do some small muscle injuries heading off super quick.
My advice would be to pace yourself a couple at your previous timings of 25 mins, get a few under your belt as it were, and then go race and see what you can do.
But yes the cardio carries over very well indeed.
I think I'll do a few over the winter with the aim of going sub 20 mins. It would depress my girlfriend though, she runs a lot more than me and I don't think she could get anywhere near that, but then she doesn't push herself.
Re the OP starting to take them more seriously, might be worth a go, although bear in mind there will be many people who will be able to run a 20 min and still take 5 mins out of you over an hour on the bike. Its why I wouldn't do them as it would annoy me when I lost 5 mins in the swim.
boothy1987 said:
Came second in 18:37. Winner finished about 5 seconds in front, out sprinted me at the end. 3rd was about 19 minutes. Then I don't think anyone else crossed under 20 minutes. It was mainly non runners who were just doing it for charity (hospice) and there were only around 75 doing it
Pretty pleased with that time but my calves are feeling it a bit now
I hate you. Pretty pleased with that time but my calves are feeling it a bit now
I mean well done!
I have now funded for a personal trainer to help me, upped my treadmill by 2% and struggled badly!
boothy1987 said:
I don't think i've ever lost the muscular endurance I gained from being a competitive swimmer
I'm a bit late to the post race party, but I just wanted to give you a big 
and congratulate you on a bloody good 5k - that really is a TOP effort fella, make no mistake.If you've got a competitive swimming background as well, I would definitely consider giving triathlon a shout - you've obviously got a good engine and aside from anything else, it'd probably give you a good focus for training . . . if you had any questions about getting stuck in, there's a tri thread in the sports section http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Anyway, 18.37 for your first 5k deserves a
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