What Are Your Gym/Fitness/Routine Moans?
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lemmingjames said:
Does Pure Gym membership belong in the council thread ;-)
I cant wait until Mens 'Fitness Fashion' follows Womens and all the guys want big legs and squatters bum
I'll be ahead of the curve there then.I cant wait until Mens 'Fitness Fashion' follows Womens and all the guys want big legs and squatters bum
not really a gripe, but I've noticed two big guys (or fat lumps but with piledriver arms) in the gym, all I see them do it pressing stuff, they are strong, way stronger than I am now (but not when I was at my best), but that's all I see them do; bench, smith bench, smith shoulders, hammer incline, hammer shoulders, chest press, DB bench. ALl big weights save when I saw one do a lat raise for the medial delts, then it was toddler weight. they look like old bouncers but just once I'd like to see them do something else.
Halb said:
not really a gripe, but I've noticed two big guys (or fat lumps but with piledriver arms) in the gym, all I see them do it pressing stuff, they are strong, way stronger than I am now (but not when I was at my best), but that's all I see them do; bench, smith bench, smith shoulders, hammer incline, hammer shoulders, chest press, DB bench. ALl big weights save when I saw one do a lat raise for the medial delts, then it was toddler weight. they look like old bouncers but just once I'd like to see them do something else.
They wish you'd stop looking at them 
Halb said:
I'll be ahead of the curve there then.
not really a gripe, but I've noticed two big guys (or fat lumps but with piledriver arms) in the gym, all I see them do it pressing stuff, they are strong, way stronger than I am now (but not when I was at my best), but that's all I see them do; bench, smith bench, smith shoulders, hammer incline, hammer shoulders, chest press, DB bench. ALl big weights save when I saw one do a lat raise for the medial delts, then it was toddler weight. they look like old bouncers but just once I'd like to see them do something else.
Say to them "Wow, if you're benching that much, how much can you squat?"not really a gripe, but I've noticed two big guys (or fat lumps but with piledriver arms) in the gym, all I see them do it pressing stuff, they are strong, way stronger than I am now (but not when I was at my best), but that's all I see them do; bench, smith bench, smith shoulders, hammer incline, hammer shoulders, chest press, DB bench. ALl big weights save when I saw one do a lat raise for the medial delts, then it was toddler weight. they look like old bouncers but just once I'd like to see them do something else.
i don't really understand that though. to me, i love squats and deadlifts because they're taxing and make you feel like you've worked the whole body. yesterday I lifted heavier on both of them than I have done recently and I felt great, body felt great. felt strong. and whilst I was tired it felt good, plus I slept like a baby.
ORD said:
People like easy. Upper body work is easy.
Pretty sweeping statement. I know what you're getting at but that statement doesn't work.Heavy weighted dips, heavy weighted pull-ups, big push presses & strict presses and heavy bench / DB press are all bloody hard.
For example, I find heavy deads (2-3 x BW) psychologically (and to an extent, physically) easier than sub BW strict press.
TheJimi said:
ORD said:
People like easy. Upper body work is easy.
Pretty sweeping statement. I know what you're getting at but that statement doesn't work.Plus you can kind of rest any given muscle in the upper body by working around it. Want to move anywhere though? Yeah, you'll be needing your legs for that and there's no way around that!
Edited by Centurion07 on Thursday 25th October 22:40
Easy relative to squats and deadlifts (squats particularly).
If you put heavy singles to one side and just think about moderate rep work, a true 5RM squat may be the hardest thing any of us ever does. If you watch most people squat, they do 5-10 reps at what is probably a 20 RM.
If you’re on juice, and lots of gym bros are, you don’t even need squats and deadlifts to get muscular in the lower body. I’m not even sure that deadlifts do much for hypertrophy, anyway, relative to how bloody taxing they are. Highish rep deadlifts may be even more awful than highish rep squats, but that’s like comparing being shot to being stabbed repeatedly.
If you put heavy singles to one side and just think about moderate rep work, a true 5RM squat may be the hardest thing any of us ever does. If you watch most people squat, they do 5-10 reps at what is probably a 20 RM.
If you’re on juice, and lots of gym bros are, you don’t even need squats and deadlifts to get muscular in the lower body. I’m not even sure that deadlifts do much for hypertrophy, anyway, relative to how bloody taxing they are. Highish rep deadlifts may be even more awful than highish rep squats, but that’s like comparing being shot to being stabbed repeatedly.
budgie smuggler said:
This morning some PT had their client on the leg press machine, she was letting her fully lock out her knees to the extent that they were starting to go the wrong way like a flamingo's legs 
Oh christ! The amount of times I see this & I'll say to them 'have the staff never told you NOT to lock out' & I may as well be speaking a different language. There's also the times they're 'resting' with legs locked out with the weights lifted. 
Winky151 said:
budgie smuggler said:
This morning some PT had their client on the leg press machine, she was letting her fully lock out her knees to the extent that they were starting to go the wrong way like a flamingo's legs
Oh christ! The amount of times I see this & I'll say to them 'have the staff never told you NOT to lock out' & I may as well be speaking a different language. There's also the times they're 'resting' with legs locked out with the weights lifted. I lock out my legs regularly when I leg press, especially if I'm resting before pushing for more reps. I do it with relatively heavy weights. As long as you don't do it violently, or use inappropriate loads that you can't handle, it's fine. I also lock my knees out when I squat, everyone does, and knees survive just fine.
Unless you've joint issues/hypermobility of course.
Unless you've joint issues/hypermobility of course.
Edited by didelydoo on Friday 26th October 14:28
Halb said:
yeah, can be an issue if you have too much relaxin
Watch out for prolapses Especially as you get older.....On the subject of prolapses (discs rather than anything else), what is it with the deadlifters who get to the top of the lift and then do a sort of lean back/back arch thing?
TheJimi said:
ORD said:
People like easy. Upper body work is easy.
Pretty sweeping statement. I know what you're getting at but that statement doesn't work.Heavy weighted dips, heavy weighted pull-ups, big push presses & strict presses and heavy bench / DB press are all bloody hard.
For example, I find heavy deads (2-3 x BW) psychologically (and to an extent, physically) easier than sub BW strict press.
In the week, the sessions I really don't look forward to are leg day (including deadlifts), 30 minutes Concept 2 and 750m/1km swim.
The upper body days are fine, even with weighted pull-ups and dips.
3xBw deadlift? I am staggered (physically I wouldn't stagger, because the bar wouldn't move).
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