What Are Your Gym/Fitness/Routine Moans?

What Are Your Gym/Fitness/Routine Moans?

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ORD

18,120 posts

128 months

Sunday 2nd December 2018
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TheJimi said:
ORD said:
TheJimi said:
Why?
I find the idea of sitting down to train a bit silly. We sit all week at work and then go and sit down to exercise.
You'll feel the same about the bench press variations then? I mean, since we spend at least 6 hours per night lying down.
You can’t do the bench press standing up. P

TheJimi

25,002 posts

244 months

Sunday 2nd December 2018
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ORD said:
TheJimi said:
ORD said:
TheJimi said:
Why?
I find the idea of sitting down to train a bit silly. We sit all week at work and then go and sit down to exercise.
You'll feel the same about the bench press variations then? I mean, since we spend at least 6 hours per night lying down.
You can’t do the bench press standing up. P
(sigh)


Zod

35,295 posts

259 months

Monday 3rd December 2018
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ORD said:
TheJimi said:
Why?
I find the idea of sitting down to train a bit silly. We sit all week at work and then go and sit down to exercise.
It takes legs out of the equation. You are training shoulders.

ambuletz

10,751 posts

182 months

Monday 3rd December 2018
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Zod said:
ORD said:
TheJimi said:
Why?
I find the idea of sitting down to train a bit silly. We sit all week at work and then go and sit down to exercise.
It takes legs out of the equation. You are training shoulders.
but you're also stablising your body while you do it too. My old PT seemed to encourage me to do overhead press while seated, but quickly realised doing it standed requires more effort/dicipline.

popeyewhite

19,932 posts

121 months

Monday 3rd December 2018
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ambuletz said:
Zod said:
ORD said:
TheJimi said:
Why?
I find the idea of sitting down to train a bit silly. We sit all week at work and then go and sit down to exercise.
It takes legs out of the equation. You are training shoulders.
but you're also stablising your body while you do it too. My old PT seemed to encourage me to do overhead press while seated, but quickly realised doing it standed requires more effort/dicipline.
You can lift marginally more strict OHP when seated, so if lifting heavy is your goal...

RTB

8,273 posts

259 months

Monday 3rd December 2018
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popeyewhite said:
You can lift marginally more strict OHP when seated, so if lifting heavy is your goal...
You can lift even more standing up if you do a little cheaty leg drive before each rep and then shake like a stting dog as your stronger side lifts the weight whilst your weaker side courageously tries to catch up hehe

TheJimi

25,002 posts

244 months

Monday 3rd December 2018
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It’s just a tool, the same way as strict standing overhead is a tool.

To automatically rule out a given movement simply because it is performed from a seated position, is a little bit ignorant, and, imo, arrogant.


popeyewhite

19,932 posts

121 months

Monday 3rd December 2018
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RTB said:
You can lift even more standing up if you do a little cheaty leg drive before each rep and then shake like a stting dog as your stronger side lifts the weight whilst your weaker side courageously tries to catch up hehe
hehe Quite true, and you can drop the bar on your head in either scenario.

ambuletz

10,751 posts

182 months

Monday 3rd December 2018
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I use some leg drive, only if I'm on my last set and on my last 2-3 reps if i feel like doing amrap.

didelydoo

5,528 posts

211 months

Monday 3rd December 2018
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I rekon I strict more standing than seated- standing allows movement into optimal positions, seated stops that.

I do loads of stuff seated.

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Monday 3rd December 2018
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popeyewhite said:
You can lift marginally more strict OHP when seated, so if lifting heavy is your goal...
you can lift more with a BB seated (no back brace) than standing up?

popeyewhite

19,932 posts

121 months

Monday 3rd December 2018
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Halb said:
you can lift more with a BB seated (no back brace) than standing up?
Yes. Less body control needed. Same goes for standing DB vs seated DB.

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Monday 3rd December 2018
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popeyewhite said:
Yes. Less body control needed. Same goes for standing DB vs seated DB.
I'm the opposite.

popeyewhite

19,932 posts

121 months

Monday 3rd December 2018
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Halb said:
I'm the opposite.
Are you really? Sitting seems an awkward lift after SOHP and I can understand that some find one version easier than another. Another angle is that standing uses more total muscle so is better for overall development... but if getting stronger shoulders is what you're training for then you'll get more reps at a heavier weight per se when you're seated.

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Monday 3rd December 2018
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popeyewhite said:
Are you really? Sitting seems an awkward lift after SOHP and I can understand that some find one version easier than another. Another angle is that standing uses more total muscle so is better for overall development... but if getting stronger shoulders is what you're training for then you'll get more reps at a heavier weight per se when you're seated.
STanding gives you the natural movement when you press Olympic style, and your core/glutes are solid and you feel strong. Sitting is ok for isolation, but for strength, standing is better.
I'll give sitting a shot...I could clean the bb then sit down, or use a squat rack I guess.

popeyewhite

19,932 posts

121 months

Monday 3rd December 2018
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Halb said:
STanding gives you the natural movement when you press Olympic style, and your core/glutes are solid and you feel strong...
Yes there is more stability involved in a standing press, but this also equates to a lower 1 RM (some 2013 study). However if you feel stronger and it's good technique then I'd stick to what you're comfortable with. Plus you either need a spotter or as you've noted a compatible rack for SeatedOHP... .

Personally for OHP I prefer standing, it just seems...right. biggrin




ashleyman

6,987 posts

100 months

Monday 3rd December 2018
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I sit cos I'm lazy.

ambuletz

10,751 posts

182 months

Tuesday 11th December 2018
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I was silently raging today. I go into the gym, notice the first power rack has clothes hanging on it and a barbel with weights on so i leave it and use another. throughout the hour that I'm there not a single person has come back to that power rack and I'm wondering what has left their stuff there. This is during peak time when someone else could've easily used it. I was hoping to catch the person as they left whilst I was there but I managed to get in, complete my workout and leave before they did so I never knew who it was.

incredibly inconsiderate considering it's during peak time (i was there between 6.30-7.30pm) and all other power racks were in use.

LordJammy

3,112 posts

190 months

Tuesday 11th December 2018
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The guy who comes into my gym, sets up his tripod and films himself working out. Also “wants to be famous”

Get help mate

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Tuesday 11th December 2018
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ambuletz said:
I was silently raging today. I go into the gym, notice the first power rack has clothes hanging on it and a barbel with weights on so i leave it and use another. throughout the hour that I'm there not a single person has come back to that power rack and I'm wondering what has left their stuff there. This is during peak time when someone else could've easily used it. I was hoping to catch the person as they left whilst I was there but I managed to get in, complete my workout and leave before they did so I never knew who it was.

incredibly inconsiderate considering it's during peak time (i was there between 6.30-7.30pm) and all other power racks were in use.
maybe the guy was squatting and shat his pants?