Give Up Smoking or Die Trying

Give Up Smoking or Die Trying

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MYOB

4,793 posts

139 months

Thursday 7th December 2017
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cheddar said:
... but they're 30 cig packs
Oh yeah, forgot about that. Used to love the bigger packets!

cheddar

4,637 posts

175 months

Thursday 7th December 2017
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MYOB said:
Oh yeah, forgot about that. Used to love the bigger packets!
Still mans a reasonably heavy smoker would be spending nearly £7500 on ciggies!!!

FocusRS3

3,411 posts

92 months

Thursday 7th December 2017
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cheddar said:
MYOB said:
Oh yeah, forgot about that. Used to love the bigger packets!
Still mans a reasonably heavy smoker would be spending nearly £7500 on ciggies!!!
£12 in London now for 20 fags and will be going up again .

Back on the Vape now . If I can get through Xmas on the Vape then I know I’m done .

Have Xmas off so plan to get out and do lots of exercise and get the lungs working again.

Any tips or words that will help scare me into staying off the fags are hugely appreciated .

When I quit before I remember it being an advert of a 13yr old girl who was told her 57yr old father had months to live .
That sent a shock wave through me . Just have to remember that stuff


Edited by FocusRS3 on Thursday 7th December 07:23

HustleRussell

24,724 posts

161 months

Thursday 7th December 2017
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FocusRS3 said:
cheddar said:
MYOB said:
Oh yeah, forgot about that. Used to love the bigger packets!
Still mans a reasonably heavy smoker would be spending nearly £7500 on ciggies!!!
£12 in London now for 20 fags and will be going up again .

Back on the Vape now . If I can get through Xmas on the Vape then I know I’m done .

Have Xmas off so plan to get out and do lots of exercise and get the lungs working again.

Any tips or words that will help scare me into staying off the fags are hugely appreciated .

When I quit before I remember it being an advert of a 13yr old girl who was told her 57yr old father had months to live .
That sent a shock wave through me . Just have to remember that stuff
You don't need any more encouragement but I'd just ask if you've gotten rid of all your smoking paraphernalia? I used to smoke rollups and only smoked straights if no rollups were available, so when I finished my last pack of tobacco and quit smoking I also made a point of giving away or binning filters, papers and even cigarette lighters. I'm incredibly lazy and pretty tight so the fact that I'd have had to go to the shop and buy the whole lot again should I want a cigarette was enough for me not to bother. If you've half a pack sitting in your drawer and you still carry a lighter around etc you could be lighting up within seconds and it's too convenient.

FocusRS3

3,411 posts

92 months

Thursday 7th December 2017
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HustleRussell said:
You don't need any more encouragement but I'd just ask if you've gotten rid of all your smoking paraphernalia? I used to smoke rollups and only smoked straights if no rollups were available, so when I finished my last pack of tobacco and quit smoking I also made a point of giving away or binning filters, papers and even cigarette lighters. I'm incredibly lazy and pretty tight so the fact that I'd have had to go to the shop and buy the whole lot again should I want a cigarette was enough for me not to bother. If you've half a pack sitting in your drawer and you still carry a lighter around etc you could be lighting up within seconds and it's too convenient.
Finished off last ones y'day afternoon which TBF i didnt even enjoy.

The vape does help and if i can stick with that right through xmas ill then find myself using it probably only when i drink.

Took the trouble to save some pretty grim pictures on my phone of the affects of smoking too.

HustleRussell

24,724 posts

161 months

Thursday 7th December 2017
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FocusRS3 said:
HustleRussell said:
You don't need any more encouragement but I'd just ask if you've gotten rid of all your smoking paraphernalia? I used to smoke rollups and only smoked straights if no rollups were available, so when I finished my last pack of tobacco and quit smoking I also made a point of giving away or binning filters, papers and even cigarette lighters. I'm incredibly lazy and pretty tight so the fact that I'd have had to go to the shop and buy the whole lot again should I want a cigarette was enough for me not to bother. If you've half a pack sitting in your drawer and you still carry a lighter around etc you could be lighting up within seconds and it's too convenient.
Finished off last ones y'day afternoon which TBF i didnt even enjoy.

The vape does help and if i can stick with that right through xmas ill then find myself using it probably only when i drink.

Took the trouble to save some pretty grim pictures on my phone of the affects of smoking too.
I wasn't a proper smoker but my epiphany came when one day I was bored and thought I fancied a cigarette. Smoked it and it was horrible. I realised that I didn't even like the things unless I had had a drink, and that meant that substituting the cigarettes for the vape was going to be easy- and it was.

I was one of those who was waiting for the scandal when vaping would be revealed to be just as bad for you as smoking. I waited quite a long time on that excuse- but the results of the biggest study yet on the subject was published in February and it proposed that vaping is 'at least 95% less bad for you' (or words to that effect). During the course of my research I managed to put myself right off cigarettes just by reading about the chemicals, the effect on the body and the body's recovery process after you stop smoking. It simultaneously reinforced to me how bad smoking is and at the same time made me positive about the recovery process. Like many other smokers, part of me thought 'the damage has been done' (another defeatist excuse for continuing)- but learning about the body's mechanisms for cleaning up it's tissues and rejecting these toxins convinced me that I could begin to undo the damage- and fast.

Loe and behold I spent four or five weeks bringing up all kinds of nasty st as the bronchial cilia came back to life and went to work conveying all of the pollutants out of my lungs.

FocusRS3

3,411 posts

92 months

Thursday 7th December 2017
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HustleRussell said:
I wasn't a proper smoker but my epiphany came when one day I was bored and thought I fancied a cigarette. Smoked it and it was horrible. I realised that I didn't even like the things unless I had had a drink, and that meant that substituting the cigarettes for the vape was going to be easy- and it was.

I was one of those who was waiting for the scandal when vaping would be revealed to be just as bad for you as smoking. I waited quite a long time on that excuse- but the results of the biggest study yet on the subject was published in February and it proposed that vaping is 'at least 95% less bad for you' (or words to that effect). During the course of my research I managed to put myself right off cigarettes just by reading about the chemicals, the effect on the body and the body's recovery process after you stop smoking. It simultaneously reinforced to me how bad smoking is and at the same time made me positive about the recovery process. Like many other smokers, part of me thought 'the damage has been done' (another defeatist excuse for continuing)- but learning about the body's mechanisms for cleaning up it's tissues and rejecting these toxins convinced me that I could begin to undo the damage- and fast.

Loe and behold I spent four or five weeks bringing up all kinds of nasty st as the bronchial cilia came back to life and went to work conveying all of the pollutants out of my lungs.
I went through this years back when i quit for 7yrs.

I remember at the time reading that after 15yrs your body is just like that of someone that has never smoked but im unsure about this as my Da had a shadow on his lung as a result of smoking for years.

What's really annoying is that in was SO 'given up' until i was persuaded to have a cigar one night 3yrs ago. I have dabbled ever since and then got on the fags full time. Really disappointing .

I know early December isnt a good time time to quit strictly speaking but if i can nail this time then the new year is plain sailing

MYOB

4,793 posts

139 months

Thursday 7th December 2017
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I stopped early December last year after 25 years of smoking at least 20 a day.

Tried everything before to no avail. Tried vaping last year when I stopped but there was something about vaping that didn't sit well with me.

But somehow, despite Christmas, loss of very close relative, and currently going through a divorce alongside being arrested due to spurious domestic abuse allegations, I haven't succumbed to smoking. I've smoked 4 around February but that's it.

I don't believe in words of wisdom or advice. It's all about timing. You will quit when you're ready...if you want to.

Good luck.

FocusRS3

3,411 posts

92 months

Thursday 7th December 2017
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MYOB said:
I stopped early December last year after 25 years of smoking at least 20 a day.

Tried everything before to no avail. Tried vaping last year when I stopped but there was something about vaping that didn't sit well with me.

But somehow, despite Christmas, loss of very close relative, and currently going through a divorce alongside being arrested due to spurious domestic abuse allegations, I haven't succumbed to smoking. I've smoked 4 around February but that's it.

I don't believe in words of wisdom or advice. It's all about timing. You will quit when you're ready...if you want to.

Good luck.
Tks MYOB.

I now remember from before that i changed my routine and that helped enormously.

Getting to the station at a slightly different time, getting a coffee from a different shop and not popping out for the coffee mid morning or afternoon.

Guess it all relates to changing habits

cheddar

4,637 posts

175 months

Thursday 7th December 2017
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FocusRS3 said:
Any tips or words that will help scare me into staying off the fags are hugely appreciated .


Edited by FocusRS3 on Thursday 7th December 07:23
After 30 years of heavy smoking I'm over 12 months into vaping and now have zero fear of tobacco, I've even tried smoking out of curiosity and it was disgusting.
Don't be afraid of nicotine vape, it's pretty much harmless uncombusted.
For me it's not a case of 'sticking with it', I love it.

FocusRS3

3,411 posts

92 months

Thursday 7th December 2017
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cheddar said:
After 30 years of heavy smoking I'm over 12 months into vaping and now have zero fear of tobacco, I've even tried smoking out of curiosity and it was disgusting.
Don't be afraid of nicotine vape, it's pretty much harmless uncombusted.
For me it's not a case of 'sticking with it', I love it.
I have a 6mg Vape and i used it exclusively before for 3 months and never wanted tobacco.

Just gotta stick with it and not slide back into Cigs again.

I sometimes find that thhe vape makes me wheeze but my son said its because i need to change the coil so will get on that tonight.
Tks for the advice

cheddar

4,637 posts

175 months

Thursday 7th December 2017
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FocusRS3 said:
I have a 6mg Vape and i used it exclusively before for 3 months and never wanted tobacco.

Just gotta stick with it and not slide back into Cigs again.

I sometimes find that thhe vape makes me wheeze but my son said its because i need to change the coil so will get on that tonight.
Tks for the advice
Get organised.

You'll know when your coil is going bad by dark juice or bad taste, I change mine weekly or sometimes sooner, just occasionally you'll get a dud coil that only lasts a day so keep spares and spare glass (in case you drop and break it), a spare coil in the car and at your work place too plus spare battery so you never run out and plenty of juice.

Once you're sorted it's easy peasy, a minute a day to top up juice and 5 minutes each week to refresh your gear and change coils.
It takes longer than that to park up, go to a shop and buy a pack of filth sticks.

FocusRS3

3,411 posts

92 months

Thursday 7th December 2017
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cheddar said:
Get organised.

You'll know when your coil is going bad by dark juice or bad taste, I change mine weekly or sometimes sooner, just occasionally you'll get a dud coil that only lasts a day so keep spares and spare glass (in case you drop and break it), a spare coil in the car and at your work place too plus spare battery so you never run out and plenty of juice.

Once you're sorted it's easy peasy, a minute a day to top up juice and 5 minutes each week to refresh your gear and change coils.
It takes longer than that to park up, go to a shop and buy a pack of filth sticks.
Dead true

Rollin

6,097 posts

246 months

Thursday 7th December 2017
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I tried vaping briefly, but it's too close to smoking. The same habitual aspects are there, although most vapers I see are on it constantly.

The reason you smoke is because you are addicted to nicotine.

For me, vaping was a different way of satisfying my nicotine addiction....but only slightly different ...and close enough to easily go back to my original method.

The only certain way for me to stop smoking was to get to the root of the problem and that was beating the nicotine addiction.

I had basically accepted that I would be addicted to nicotine forever as all methods I had tried had failed.

I took Champix for a few weeks as an experiment, with no expectations that it would work. At the time I didn't have a massive desire to stop smoking.

Not had a single one since March 2016


FocusRS3

3,411 posts

92 months

Thursday 7th December 2017
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Rollin said:
I tried vaping briefly, but it's too close to smoking. The same habitual aspects are there, although most vapers I see are on it constantly.

The reason you smoke is because you are addicted to nicotine.

For me, vaping was a different way of satisfying my nicotine addiction....but only slightly different ...and close enough to easily go back to my original method.

The only certain way for me to stop smoking was to get to the root of the problem and that was beating the nicotine addiction.

I had basically accepted that I would be addicted to nicotine forever as all methods I had tried had failed.

I took Champix for a few weeks as an experiment, with no expectations that it would work. At the time I didn't have a massive desire to stop smoking.

Not had a single one since March 2016
The same feelings about vamping cross my mind too but it helped previously so my plan is to run it through Xmas.

It's not ideal I agree and previously I used the patches and they worked so I may switch onto these in a couple of weeks .


CinnamonFan

980 posts

197 months

Thursday 7th December 2017
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Keep smoke free guys! You can do this!

MYOB

4,793 posts

139 months

Thursday 7th December 2017
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FocusRS3 said:
Getting to the station at a slightly different time, getting a coffee from a different shop and not popping out for the coffee mid morning or afternoon.

Guess it all relates to changing habits
Yep, I used to love my Costa coffee and a fag. Still miss this aspect of smoking and coffee. You might find the coffee consumption drops when you stop smoking.

But just think, at the price of ciggies these days, you might as well smoke a £10 note and eat some change on a daily basis.

FocusRS3

3,411 posts

92 months

Friday 8th December 2017
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MYOB said:
Yep, I used to love my Costa coffee and a fag. Still miss this aspect of smoking and coffee. You might find the coffee consumption drops when you stop smoking.

But just think, at the price of ciggies these days, you might as well smoke a £10 note and eat some change on a daily basis.
The cost is ridiculous I agree.

Day two , have a big night out tonight so a test with booze although oddly I sometimes prefer the Vape when drinking .

Last night I changed the coil on the Vape and refilled the chamber so I’m all ready to go !

Tks for support

Sheets Tabuer

18,982 posts

216 months

Friday 8th December 2017
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Rollin said:
I tried vaping briefly, but it's too close to smoking. The same habitual aspects are there, although most vapers I see are on it constantly.

The reason you smoke is because you are addicted to nicotine.

For me, vaping was a different way of satisfying my nicotine addiction....but only slightly different ...and close enough to easily go back to my original method.

The only certain way for me to stop smoking was to get to the root of the problem and that was beating the nicotine addiction.

I had basically accepted that I would be addicted to nicotine forever as all methods I had tried had failed.

I took Champix for a few weeks as an experiment, with no expectations that it would work. At the time I didn't have a massive desire to stop smoking.

Not had a single one since March 2016
My smoking routing would consist of two when I woke up with two cups of coffee, one when I got in the car, one half way to work and one when I got to work then one on the hour until lunchtime, at lunch I'd have three, one at the start another after my sandwich and one before going back. Then hourly again until I finished, then the three on the way home and I'd smoke all evening and sometimes wake up in the night for a smoke.

I tried vaping but it was like a babies dummy and I sucked on it morning till night, I was a complete addict and thought this was me until the inevitable heart attack.

Sod it I thought and went to the docs and she prescribed Zyban, I started them immediately and thought it was crap because I was still smoking, after about a week I was out and about and went to have a cigarette and reaslised I left them at home, then it dawned on me I hadn't thought about smoking as I hadn't even bothered to check if I had them with me.

Day 10 and I had no cravings, no desire to smoke, zip, nothing, so I stopped smoking right there.

It's been 3.5 years now and I've not had a single one.

The thing that is stopping people is fear, you have nothing to fear from not smoking.

FocusRS3

3,411 posts

92 months

Friday 8th December 2017
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Sheets Tabuer said:
My smoking routing would consist of two when I woke up with two cups of coffee, one when I got in the car, one half way to work and one when I got to work then one on the hour until lunchtime, at lunch I'd have three, one at the start another after my sandwich and one before going back. Then hourly again until I finished, then the three on the way home and I'd smoke all evening and sometimes wake up in the night for a smoke.

I tried vaping but it was like a babies dummy and I sucked on it morning till night, I was a complete addict and thought this was me until the inevitable heart attack.

Sod it I thought and went to the docs and she prescribed Zyban, I started them immediately and thought it was crap because I was still smoking, after about a week I was out and about and went to have a cigarette and reaslised I left them at home, then it dawned on me I hadn't thought about smoking as I hadn't even bothered to check if I had them with me.

Day 10 and I had no cravings, no desire to smoke, zip, nothing, so I stopped smoking right there.

It's been 3.5 years now and I've not had a single one.

The thing that is stopping people is fear, you have nothing to fear from not smoking.
You are right there is nothing to fear and as i know from previous experience its all habit.

I also find i feel more upbeat when im not dependant on fags. Do you used to feel this way?

My problem is that i cant have one, i have to smoke like crazy