Effing cancer is an effing effer, frankly
Discussion
rolex said:
Tthis really needs to be tackled! https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/health-news/5480509/... Guess it's because only older guys get it
My father died of this.I agree - as a huge killer with a well established testing regime, better screening seems an easy win.
loafer123 said:
My father died of this.
I agree - as a huge killer with a well established testing regime, better screening seems an easy win.
My father died of a heart attack , no warning signs just lights out at the age of 68. I agree - as a huge killer with a well established testing regime, better screening seems an easy win.
When they examined him it turned out he had prostrate cancer too, presumably in the early stages .
How old was your father if it’s not too inappropriate to ask ?
Think it’s wise to be tested once past 50 maybe ?
rolex said:
Tthis really needs to be tackled! https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/health-news/5480509/... Guess it's because only older guys get it
I kind of had to laugh at a spokesman from a prostate cancer charity being interviewed on TV, who said, and I'm sure it just didn't come out right, "prostate cancer deaths have now overtaken breast cancer, and we need to reverse that."Yes, what we need is more breast cancer!!!!
Still, I guess most people knew what they were getting at.
FocusRS3 said:
loafer123 said:
My father died of this.
I agree - as a huge killer with a well established testing regime, better screening seems an easy win.
My father died of a heart attack , no warning signs just lights out at the age of 68. I agree - as a huge killer with a well established testing regime, better screening seems an easy win.
When they examined him it turned out he had prostrate cancer too, presumably in the early stages .
How old was your father if it’s not too inappropriate to ask ?
Think it’s wise to be tested once past 50 maybe ?
I try and get my PSA done once a year or so, and I am late 40s.
TVR4US said:
hi, had a blood test in November to see why I was having dissy spells, waited 2 weeks and after a few more tests and a biopsy I am now a victim of Prostate Cancer, just started the hormone injections and tablets, treatment starts in March, CANCER IS A EFFING ****
Sorry to hear this . I had no idea dizzy spells could be a sign of this . I'm intending to get myself checked regularly after my fathers discovery .
Can I ask how old you are ?
TVR4US said:
hi, had a blood test in November to see why I was having dissy spells, waited 2 weeks and after a few more tests and a biopsy I am now a victim of Prostate Cancer, just started the hormone injections and tablets, treatment starts in March, CANCER IS A EFFING ****
Wrong way to say it but welcome to the club. Amazing that 1 in 8 men will get this effing disease but there is so much ignorance about it. Good to see that Sky Sports presenter Jeff Stelling, some ex footballers and many of the professional world darts players too are wearing their prostate cancer man badge.Fingers crossed that you are at stage 2 and not 3 or 4. Is the PSA number high? And the Gleason score?
N7GTX said:
TVR4US said:
hi, had a blood test in November to see why I was having dissy spells, waited 2 weeks and after a few more tests and a biopsy I am now a victim of Prostate Cancer, just started the hormone injections and tablets, treatment starts in March, CANCER IS A EFFING ****
Wrong way to say it but welcome to the club. Amazing that 1 in 8 men will get this effing disease but there is so much ignorance about it. Good to see that Sky Sports presenter Jeff Stelling, some ex footballers and many of the professional world darts players too are wearing their prostate cancer man badge.Fingers crossed that you are at stage 2 and not 3 or 4. Is the PSA number high? And the Gleason score?
A good family friend had breast cancer a couple years back, thank fully after intensive treatment she got the news she was in remission. A good day, especially as she had lost her Mum to breast cancer. Our friend was only 18 at the time and basically took responsibility of raising her 3 younger siblings (their father had passed a couple years earlier)
They found out this week her 22yr old daughter has breast cancer and it is aggressive. They are basically going have to throw the preverbial book at it. I suspect there will be genetic testing to be done especially as she also has a 20yr old daughter.
I have known these girls since they were toddlers, just so hard to comprehend that they are having to deal with this when still so young.
The only saving grace in all this is that her daughter was regularly checking herself and treatment is being started quickly.
They found out this week her 22yr old daughter has breast cancer and it is aggressive. They are basically going have to throw the preverbial book at it. I suspect there will be genetic testing to be done especially as she also has a 20yr old daughter.
I have known these girls since they were toddlers, just so hard to comprehend that they are having to deal with this when still so young.
The only saving grace in all this is that her daughter was regularly checking herself and treatment is being started quickly.
Edited by bexVN on Sunday 11th February 20:51
TVR4US said:
N7GTX said:
TVR4US said:
hi, had a blood test in November to see why I was having dissy spells, waited 2 weeks and after a few more tests and a biopsy I am now a victim of Prostate Cancer, just started the hormone injections and tablets, treatment starts in March, CANCER IS A EFFING ****
Wrong way to say it but welcome to the club. Amazing that 1 in 8 men will get this effing disease but there is so much ignorance about it. Good to see that Sky Sports presenter Jeff Stelling, some ex footballers and many of the professional world darts players too are wearing their prostate cancer man badge.Fingers crossed that you are at stage 2 and not 3 or 4. Is the PSA number high? And the Gleason score?
https://prostatecanceruk.org/prostate-information/...
^^^ well worth reading the link. In short, 12 samples are taken of the prostate and looked at under the microscope. The results are graded to reveal how aggressive the cancer cells are. From 0 which means no cancer cells detected up to 10 denoting the most aggressive type and therefore, the most likely to spread.
This latest study is reassuring for stage 2 sufferers as it could mean no radiotherapy or drugs side effects. https://prostatecanceruk.org/about-us/news-and-vie...
At stage 2 you have an excellent chance of a long life. 99% live for 5 years, 98% live for 10 years and 96% live for at least 15 years.
This latest study is reassuring for stage 2 sufferers as it could mean no radiotherapy or drugs side effects. https://prostatecanceruk.org/about-us/news-and-vie...
At stage 2 you have an excellent chance of a long life. 99% live for 5 years, 98% live for 10 years and 96% live for at least 15 years.
I'd like to ask something of the survivors here. My mum was diagnosed in 2016 with cancer, which turned out to be in the Fallopian Tubes. Chemo and hysterectomy later, she was given the all clear in mid-2017, just under 12 months from the initial testing - which in itself is a fantastic turn of both events and speed, I think.
She recently turned 70 and her doctor has advised her exercise to be a bit more energetic, not just meandering walking, but quicker walking to get things moving properly.
Anyway, she has been here with us in Australia for 3 months, over the summer - so long dry days, can be warm, but plenty of opportunity for all sorts of different approaches to life and changing things for the better. I thought she'd jump at the chance of improving things, having just gone through 12 months of Hell.
But it seems not. Watching game shows on telly and browsing shops is where its at, followed by leisurely tea and cakes. Yes, there have been days with an early start and a saunter along the beach, but its been because I've suggested it, and then almost pushed her into doing it. Which I don't really want to do.
Now, on one hand I reckon after all she's been through, and at her age, she can do what the chuff she likes. But, on the other, I thought she'd want to improve her lot a bit, and do what she could to be around for perhaps longer than nature had previously intended.
So, to those that have been through the mill, did your view on life change, or have your habits changed? Should I really care, as long as she's happy and doing what she wants to do?? Am I overthinking this, and should really not be too worried...???
She recently turned 70 and her doctor has advised her exercise to be a bit more energetic, not just meandering walking, but quicker walking to get things moving properly.
Anyway, she has been here with us in Australia for 3 months, over the summer - so long dry days, can be warm, but plenty of opportunity for all sorts of different approaches to life and changing things for the better. I thought she'd jump at the chance of improving things, having just gone through 12 months of Hell.
But it seems not. Watching game shows on telly and browsing shops is where its at, followed by leisurely tea and cakes. Yes, there have been days with an early start and a saunter along the beach, but its been because I've suggested it, and then almost pushed her into doing it. Which I don't really want to do.
Now, on one hand I reckon after all she's been through, and at her age, she can do what the chuff she likes. But, on the other, I thought she'd want to improve her lot a bit, and do what she could to be around for perhaps longer than nature had previously intended.
So, to those that have been through the mill, did your view on life change, or have your habits changed? Should I really care, as long as she's happy and doing what she wants to do?? Am I overthinking this, and should really not be too worried...???
PomBstard said:
So, to those that have been through the mill, did your view on life change, or have your habits changed? Should I really care, as long as she's happy and doing what she wants to do?? Am I overthinking this, and should really not be too worried...???
I'm just under four months post chemo and continue to be amazed how little I can do, the mind is willing most of the time although chemo brain brings its own challenges, the fatigue is shocking it hits me from nowhere and renders me unable to lift my arms, then there's the neuropathy, jeez that hurts, plus some necrosis in my hip, there' so much about cancer and chemo that you are not warned about, add in the shock of facing your own mortality, it can be overwhelming. Like me she has also had to recover from major surgery.My time horizon is looking like it has been considerably reduced as I have not been offered a cure, so I'm really keen to pack as much in as possible, I'm 46 and move like a frail 80 year old at times.
Maybe swimming in warm water would be easier for your mum, be kind to her, let her go at her own pace, everybody seems to suffer a very different array of symptoms to various different degrees.
My own mum made a 24 year battle with cancer look like a walk in the park, I have no idea how she did it, she walked miles everyday and never took any pain relief.
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But, on the other, I thought she'd want to improve her lot a bit, and do what she could to be around for perhaps longer than nature had previously intended.
So, to those that have been through the mill, did your view on life change, or have your habits changed? Should I really care, as long as she's happy and doing what she wants to do?? Am I overthinking this, and should really not be too worried...???
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Your mum's a person in her own right - not just your mum. Respect her for that and don't worry too much.
But, on the other, I thought she'd want to improve her lot a bit, and do what she could to be around for perhaps longer than nature had previously intended.
So, to those that have been through the mill, did your view on life change, or have your habits changed? Should I really care, as long as she's happy and doing what she wants to do?? Am I overthinking this, and should really not be too worried...???
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Your mum's a person in her own right - not just your mum. Respect her for that and don't worry too much.
Thanks for the replies. Just to confirm, I’m not sounding the alarm at 0500 and insisting on cold showers and 10km run before breakfast...🙂 And yes, I know it her choice what to do.
My lack of understanding is around having been informed that exercise is going to help, and having gone through such an experience where she really did think that was the end, why the reluctance to change. It’s the lack of enthusiasm for changing that I don’t appreciate. And this is because I’ve not been through it - I get that.
Perhaps my question could’ve been better phrased - how do people feel 12-24 months after chemo - do you feel like effecting any change?
My lack of understanding is around having been informed that exercise is going to help, and having gone through such an experience where she really did think that was the end, why the reluctance to change. It’s the lack of enthusiasm for changing that I don’t appreciate. And this is because I’ve not been through it - I get that.
Perhaps my question could’ve been better phrased - how do people feel 12-24 months after chemo - do you feel like effecting any change?
We have a good friend who is 45 that now has bone cancer . Her markers have gone back up even post chemotherapy and she is now waiting for further results .
She had a hip replacement too a year back as part of the treatment and at one point it was all looking very good. She was first diagnosed with breast cancer which was successfully treated .
Her mother died of breat cancer at a similar age.
We are fearful that now it’s in her bones and her markers have gone back up its bad news again . The first consultant she saw said there was nothing he could do for her. Fortunately she went to see another specialist. That was 18 months ago.
Effing cancer !
She had a hip replacement too a year back as part of the treatment and at one point it was all looking very good. She was first diagnosed with breast cancer which was successfully treated .
Her mother died of breat cancer at a similar age.
We are fearful that now it’s in her bones and her markers have gone back up its bad news again . The first consultant she saw said there was nothing he could do for her. Fortunately she went to see another specialist. That was 18 months ago.
Effing cancer !
Edited by FocusRS3 on Tuesday 13th February 07:41
PomBstard said:
Thanks for the replies. Just to confirm, I’m not sounding the alarm at 0500 and insisting on cold showers and 10km run before breakfast...?? And yes, I know it her choice what to do.
My lack of understanding is around having been informed that exercise is going to help, and having gone through such an experience where she really did think that was the end, why the reluctance to change. It’s the lack of enthusiasm for changing that I don’t appreciate. And this is because I’ve not been through it - I get that.
Perhaps my question could’ve been better phrased - how do people feel 12-24 months after chemo - do you feel like effecting any change?
The effects of chemo can stay with you for some time. It varies from person to person, my own experience is that it has taken me 2.5 years for the fatigue to fade fully and for me to be able to exercise at a moderate level again. My lack of understanding is around having been informed that exercise is going to help, and having gone through such an experience where she really did think that was the end, why the reluctance to change. It’s the lack of enthusiasm for changing that I don’t appreciate. And this is because I’ve not been through it - I get that.
Perhaps my question could’ve been better phrased - how do people feel 12-24 months after chemo - do you feel like effecting any change?
Just as important as the physical side is the mental side. It can be hard to remember how to enjoy oneself again; go at her pace, let her listen to her body and she'll get there. Recovery is as much of a haul as the treatment itself, and we all do it differently.
PomBstard said:
It’s the lack of enthusiasm for changing that I don’t appreciate.
I will assume that as she is a mum she has spent much of her life juggling and doing everything at full pelt with little time for herself. Maybe she is taking time to enjoy the slower pace. The cancer has meant she has endured months of gruelling treatment and the endless appointment regime. All of this is punctuated with the waiting for various different things, each of these can induce fear and anxiety.
Be kind to her, let her go at her own pace, all cancers and treatments are different, some people never fully recover from the side effects. She is in remission so not cured the emotional effect of this should not be underestimated, maybe some counselling or Macmillen support would benefit her.
Which form of cancer did she have? Do you know what chemotherapy she had?
What was she like before? Did she do exercise for the sake of it, or grudgingly, or not at all.
Something like this really takes it out of you and 12 months of relative inactivity at any age takes a bit of coming back from, at 70 it's much harder. Take her out, encourage a bit of activity on the way to a cup of tea or a meal and build it up. But above all be patient.
My MiL is back in the system after enduring chemo and radiotherapy last year for oesophageal cancer. She has a liver met but the last scan was clear so we were optimistic, but a sudden loss of weight has us all concerned and she's due a couple of CTs this week (plus a holiday) so fingers crossed.
She was a bit and active 78 year old and has really struggled to get back on her feet, particularly as she fell and broke her wrist trying to be a bit too independent too soon. She's keen and motivated, but frustrated with it all. I'm on the look out for an exercise bike for her.
Something like this really takes it out of you and 12 months of relative inactivity at any age takes a bit of coming back from, at 70 it's much harder. Take her out, encourage a bit of activity on the way to a cup of tea or a meal and build it up. But above all be patient.
My MiL is back in the system after enduring chemo and radiotherapy last year for oesophageal cancer. She has a liver met but the last scan was clear so we were optimistic, but a sudden loss of weight has us all concerned and she's due a couple of CTs this week (plus a holiday) so fingers crossed.
She was a bit and active 78 year old and has really struggled to get back on her feet, particularly as she fell and broke her wrist trying to be a bit too independent too soon. She's keen and motivated, but frustrated with it all. I'm on the look out for an exercise bike for her.
PomBstard said:
Perhaps my question could’ve been better phrased - how do people feel 12-24 months after chemo - do you feel like effecting any change?
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