Effing cancer is an effing effer, frankly

Effing cancer is an effing effer, frankly

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Legend83

9,987 posts

223 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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Not sure if this is the place for it but saw this and thought it was a positive read:

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-51182451

motco

15,974 posts

247 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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Legend83 said:
Not sure if this is the place for it but saw this and thought it was a positive read:

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-51182451
Yes, so did I. My son and daughter-in-law are both doctors (in Australia) and I have passed the link to them for comment. None thus far. Had it been in The Daily Mail or Express I would have been sceptical, but the BBC, for all its failings, is not usually hyperbolic.

LosingGrip

7,831 posts

160 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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RDMcG said:
Is medically assisted death available in the UK as we have in Canada?..becoming very common here for terminal patients who desire it. I am a big supporter and would opt for it if the situation arises as in the example for today's news:

https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/man-who-wen...
It's not.

I do agree think it should be allowed.

br d

8,403 posts

227 months

Thursday 23rd January 2020
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My cousin, 55 same age as me. Never smoked a fag in his life, the odd pint at a do but not really a drinker, didn't put weight on, looked after himself and was an all round lovely fella.

Got a shoulder pain in December, didn't worry about it, had a pretty good Christmas but then another pain under the ribs. Went to get checked out. They found cancer in his liver and bones, neither primary but advanced. He started to rapidly decline just as he received diagnosis. No treatment available. Sent home with a hospital bed last Saturday, died last night of organ failure.

Poor bloke didn't even get a chance to fight, 3 weeks ago he didn't even know he had it, now gone.
He leaves behind a loving wife and brother, three decent, hard working sons and a clutch of lovely grandchildren, everyone completely destroyed.
Crying like a baby as I write.

fk that awful fking disease.

Edited by br d on Thursday 23 January 14:25

FocusRS3

3,411 posts

92 months

Thursday 23rd January 2020
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br d said:
My cousin, 55 same age as me. Never smoked a fag in his life, the odd pint at a do but not really a drinker, didn't put weight on, looked after himself and was an all round lovely fella.

Got a shoulder pain in December, didn't worry about it, had a pretty good Christmas but then another pain under the ribs. Went to get checked out. They found cancer in his liver and bones, neither primary but advanced. He started to rapidly decline just as he received diagnosis. No treatment available. Sent home with a hospital bed last Saturday, died last night of organ failure.

Poor bloke didn't even get a chance to fight, 3 weeks ago he didn't even know he had it, now gone.
He leaves behind a loving wife and brother, three decent, hard working sons and a clutch of lovely grandchildren, everyone completely destroyed.
Crying like a baby as I write.

fk that awful fking disease.

Edited by br d on Thursday 23 January 14:25
Holy crap that's terrible, so sorry to hear of your loss.

3 weeks just shows how immediately destructive this illness can be and at 55 you'd think you had a fighting chance.

Bloody awful

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 23rd January 2020
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br d said:
My cousin, 55 same age as me. Never smoked a fag in his life, the odd pint at a do but not really a drinker, didn't put weight on, looked after himself and was an all round lovely fella.

Got a shoulder pain in December, didn't worry about it, had a pretty good Christmas but then another pain under the ribs. Went to get checked out. They found cancer in his liver and bones, neither primary but advanced. He started to rapidly decline just as he received diagnosis. No treatment available. Sent home with a hospital bed last Saturday, died last night of organ failure.

Poor bloke didn't even get a chance to fight, 3 weeks ago he didn't even know he had it, now gone.
He leaves behind a loving wife and brother, three decent, hard working sons and a clutch of lovely grandchildren, everyone completely destroyed.
Crying like a baby as I write.

fk that awful fking disease.

Edited by br d on Thursday 23 January 14:25
F**cking hell that is awful news! Horrid, horrid disease.

MIL is going through her treatment at the moment, wife's friend is round tonight and her mother has just died of "it", shes only 25 and her mum was 50 odd.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 23rd January 2020
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That’s brutal br d. So sorry for your loss and thoughts with the family and friends frown

Mrs Muttleysnoop

1,412 posts

185 months

Thursday 23rd January 2020
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br d said:
My cousin, 55 same age as me. Never smoked a fag in his life, the odd pint at a do but not really a drinker, didn't put weight on, looked after himself and was an all round lovely fella.

Got a shoulder pain in December, didn't worry about it, had a pretty good Christmas but then another pain under the ribs. Went to get checked out. They found cancer in his liver and bones, neither primary but advanced. He started to rapidly decline just as he received diagnosis. No treatment available. Sent home with a hospital bed last Saturday, died last night of organ failure.

Poor bloke didn't even get a chance to fight, 3 weeks ago he didn't even know he had it, now gone.
He leaves behind a loving wife and brother, three decent, hard working sons and a clutch of lovely grandchildren, everyone completely destroyed.
Crying like a baby as I write.

fk that awful fking disease.

Edited by br d on Thursday 23 January 14:25
Really sorry to read.


The evil that is cancer ruins every family in its vile way.

RC1807

12,555 posts

169 months

Thursday 23rd January 2020
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br d said:
My cousin, 55 same age as me. Never smoked a fag in his life, the odd pint at a do but not really a drinker, didn't put weight on, looked after himself and was an all round lovely fella.

Got a shoulder pain in December, didn't worry about it, had a pretty good Christmas but then another pain under the ribs. Went to get checked out. They found cancer in his liver and bones, neither primary but advanced. He started to rapidly decline just as he received diagnosis. No treatment available. Sent home with a hospital bed last Saturday, died last night of organ failure.

Poor bloke didn't even get a chance to fight, 3 weeks ago he didn't even know he had it, now gone.
He leaves behind a loving wife and brother, three decent, hard working sons and a clutch of lovely grandchildren, everyone completely destroyed.
Crying like a baby as I write.

fk that awful fking disease.

Edited by br d on Thursday 23 January 14:25
I'm very sorry to read that. Sincere condolences for your loss.



I learned today that a mate, who was feeling unwell over Christmas, has now gone into palliative care with very advanced liver cancer. He's 47 with a 10 year old son.

Another mate, a very active 63 year old, is being treated for prostate cancer at the moment, too.

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FocusRS3

3,411 posts

92 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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RC1807 said:
I'm very sorry to read that. Sincere condolences for your loss.



I learned today that a mate, who was feeling unwell over Christmas, has now gone into palliative care with very advanced liver cancer. He's 47 with a 10 year old son.

Another mate, a very active 63 year old, is being treated for prostate cancer at the moment, too.

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Jesus that’s terrible . Once again no age.

My mates wife has been battling this awful disease for 5yrs now but she has now become so frail she is talking herself about giving up and not being able to go on much longer.

We are going to her daughters wedding reception tomorrow evening. The wedding has been brought forward for obvious reasons.

She’s 48, it’s heartbreaking

Lost ranger

312 posts

66 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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A friends Mum, a very active and healthy 73 year old who could pass for 50 odd, felt unwell in early December. The GP quickly decided she was diabetic, which is what she'd suspected herself, and prescribed pills to lower blood sugar.
This cured her thirst but over Christmas she became jaundiced. On the basis jaundice was probably serious she went back to the GP between Christmas and new year and he decided it was probably an unusual reaction to the pills and changed the medication. A couple of days later she went back (not sure what prompted this) and the GP said she should go to hospital for tests, and to pack a bag because 'they might want to keep you in overnight.'

She almost didn't bother with the bag but turned up at hospital anyway, they kept her in and diagnosed a pancreatic tumour. It seems the tumour had caused a blockage which the diabetic dehydration had masked, which is why the jaundice was triggered by the pills.

This turned out to be one the minority of pancreatic cancer cases which are operable. Normally either the tumour isn't detected until it's spread or the usually elderly patient isn't fit enough to tolerate the massive operation.

In this case the tumour was removed within a few days of admission. But with pancreatic cancer even catching the tumour early and removing it completely gives a 5 year survival rate of only about 25%.

In this case complications set in and she died last weekend without ever leaving hospital.

S100HP

12,698 posts

168 months

Saturday 25th January 2020
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Looks like time to join this thread again.

My dad was diagnosed with stage 4 prostate cancer back in March 2018. I made a post about it at the time, and was pointed in the direction of this thread. Well anyway, my dad is going really bloody well to be honest. You'd not know there was anything wrong with him almost 2 years later, so that's great.

My stepdad however, whilst not diagnosed yet, is pretty nailed on to having advanced lung cancer. He's smoked since he was 12, 62 now, without filters too. Been coughing loads for years, but over the last year or so has lost lots of weight (he didn't have much to lose) and has also complained of back pain. He's undergoing all the testing now, and then will get a diagnosis later this week I think. They've pretty much said it's lung cancer without committing.

I think he's very advanced. He's never been a healthy man so I don't think he's much chance of fighting it for long. The statistics don't make great reading either...any ideas on timescales?

Edited by S100HP on Saturday 25th January 01:19

bexVN

14,682 posts

212 months

Saturday 25th January 2020
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My Uncle was diagnosed but it was secondary to osteosarc of his spine. He diid ignore the ssiggns for a while unfortunately. By the time. of diagnosis it was palliative care only. They gave him 3 months so he thought he had time to put his affairs in order.

Sadly he died 3 weeks later due to pneumonia (a common thing to happen) it was a real shock to us all.

S100HP

12,698 posts

168 months

Saturday 25th January 2020
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Thanks Bex. This is what I'm seeing a lot of. Really limited timescales. Seems bizarre that he could be gone within a few months. Whilst he gets very tired very quickly, and out of breath, he's still doing stuff. They've got a ski holiday booked in 7 weeks.

Guess will need to hear what the professional opinion is first, but I'm preparing myself for a fairly rapid decline.

Edited by S100HP on Saturday 25th January 12:25

bexVN

14,682 posts

212 months

Saturday 25th January 2020
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I am sorry I could not offer something more positive. I guess the difference could be if your step dad does have lung cancer that it may be primary not secondary so maybe a better chance for treatment but I don't know. Hoping for a good result for him.

bobski1

1,780 posts

105 months

Wednesday 29th January 2020
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Having gone through chemo with the Mrs last year for something cureable she's now found a lump in the chest. Normally this stuff doesn't bother me until we have the tests and 100% know. Haven't slept much as I can't stop thinking it's the worst & get having to go through it all again.

Dr appointment today & got private medical through work which I'll push to get things checked quicker but I can't stop thinking about it & it's killing me

LosingGrip

7,831 posts

160 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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My girlfriends auntie is still in hospital. They won't let her leave until she's put weight on. She's down to six and a half stone. She's eating now, but not solid foods. Believe mushed up.

Scan has shown it's spread to a lymph node.

Cancer Research website says that this is stage three...with stage four being that it's spread to distance organs.

Website says 65% chance of surviving more than five years at this stage.

Girlfriend is struggling with it all still. Her auntie doesn't want her to see her how she is which my girlfriend is finding hard.

Work have been good for me though and said if I need time off, finish early, start late to let them know and it will be fine.

Girlfriends work have been ste however. That hasn't helped.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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LosingGrip said:
My girlfriends auntie is still in hospital. They won't let her leave until she's put weight on. She's down to six and a half stone. She's eating now, but not solid foods. Believe mushed up.

Scan has shown it's spread to a lymph node.

Cancer Research website says that this is stage three...with stage four being that it's spread to distance organs.

Website says 65% chance of surviving more than five years at this stage.

Girlfriend is struggling with it all still. Her auntie doesn't want her to see her how she is which my girlfriend is finding hard.

Work have been good for me though and said if I need time off, finish early, start late to let them know and it will be fine.

Girlfriends work have been ste however. That hasn't helped.
Was it Bowel cancer?

We are about 3 months further down the line than you with my wife's mother, she has her CT scan Friday to see whether the Chemo is working.

Stage 03 bowel, spread to the Overlies, present in Lymph nodes. MIL is coping well, appetite Ok (2-3 days after chemo), susceptible to the cold and can't work but generally OK, fingers crossed that the CT scan shows some promise, it was found very very late though (in that the tumor was blocking her intestine late, after months of pain / GP visits, etc).

LosingGrip

7,831 posts

160 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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Lord.Vader said:
Was it Bowel cancer?

We are about 3 months further down the line than you with my wife's mother, she has her CT scan Friday to see whether the Chemo is working.

Stage 03 bowel, spread to the Overlies, present in Lymph nodes. MIL is coping well, appetite Ok (2-3 days after chemo), susceptible to the cold and can't work but generally OK, fingers crossed that the CT scan shows some promise, it was found very very late though (in that the tumor was blocking her intestine late, after months of pain / GP visits, etc).
Yeah it is bowel cancer from.

Hope it goes well for your MIL!

millik

80 posts

62 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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bobski1 said:
Having gone through chemo with the Mrs last year for something cureable she's now found a lump in the chest. Normally this stuff doesn't bother me until we have the tests and 100% know. Haven't slept much as I can't stop thinking it's the worst & get having to go through it all again.

Dr appointment today & got private medical through work which I'll push to get things checked quicker but I can't stop thinking about it & it's killing me
My sympathies bobski1. Am in a similar situation, Mrs had her diagnosis 31st Jan last year, gone through the opp; chemo; radio etc and all was going well.

Had the results of the final CAT scan today, what we thought was going to be “all good, see you for a check up in 4 months”, instead we found that another lymph node is now enlarged. Now waiting for a PET scan to find out exactly if it is the effing ‘C’ again or not.

At the moment I’m not sure if I want to rant; cry or punch a wall. Trying to remain positive as they are being super cautious and the node could be swollen due to a cold or anything else. Really not sure if I’ll cope with her going through this again, and then feeling guilty as her not me that will have to go through it censoredcensored