What training are you doing/have you done today? Vol.2
Discussion
ORD said:
You'd be better learning something that is designed for self-defence rather than a sports-based martial art (MT, for example) or traditional (most karate) martial art.
I would probably advise learning basic movements first - karate may well be the best source for that. A lot of early training is just learning how to maintain balance and generate power quickly in punching, pushing and pulling movements.
Once you can punch and stay on your feet under a bit of pressure, then there are loads of options for self-defence systems.
I hate Karate, not as a style just the way it's taught in the UK. The thing that BJJ, Judo, Boxing, Thai Boxing has is live sparring and nothing beats it. When you've got some drunken idiot charging at you and you've never experienced that before, you can panic and all the technique goes out the window. Only Karate I'd consider is Kyokushin which does have proper sparring and is a full contact Karate.I would probably advise learning basic movements first - karate may well be the best source for that. A lot of early training is just learning how to maintain balance and generate power quickly in punching, pushing and pulling movements.
Once you can punch and stay on your feet under a bit of pressure, then there are loads of options for self-defence systems.
didelydoo said:
In 9 out of 10 situations, boxing is likely all you'd need. In the 10th your f
ked regardless!
Not sure about that.ked regardless!I've been in 3 serios encounters and I've thrown 1 punch in total across all 3. You don't want to be choosing between nothing and knocking someone's head off
Regiment said:
I hate Karate, not as a style just the way it's taught in the UK. The thing that BJJ, Judo, Boxing, Thai Boxing has is live sparring and nothing beats it. When you've got some drunken idiot charging at you and you've never experienced that before, you can panic and all the technique goes out the window. Only Karate I'd consider is Kyokushin which does have proper sparring and is a full contact Karate.
I largely agree, but I think a lot of hours do need to be spent learning basic technique. Drills and so on. I went to a Kung Fu club once where there did lots of sparring but none of them could knock the skin off a rice pudding because they had these Fancy Dan quick punches that were annoying rather than incapacitating. Basic technique was just bad. Full contact sparring plus semi-contact self-defence drills is probably the best combination. It's no good only knowing how to bounce around and punch and kick - you need to know how to deal with drunks and idiots and psychos and not just other people who like bouncing around. Full contact sparring is nothing like fighting - fighting lasts a few seconds at most and almost never involves middle-distance engagement (which is what sparring mostly drills).
To be honest, if you don't want to learn grappling and real world fighting techniques, I would put boxing above all other martial arts, just because it establishes 'muscle memory' really fast and because they are used to getting hit. It's simple. And simple is all most people have time to learn. The best martial artists that I have known would all make very solid boxers. My favourite teacher (who mostly now does self-defence training for the military, police, prison staff, etc) had the most brutal body punches I have ever seen in real life.
BJJ is awesome fun, though. Incredible workout, too, albeit of a different kind from boxing. I got into grappling for a couple of years but was only any good at it because I was very strong for my weight category and had good stamina. My technique was middling at best, and I got utterly dominated by decent BJJ fighters.
Boring long post from someone who misses his days hitting and throwing people around
I wonder if anyone can advise. I seem to get shin pain/discomfort when using a rowing machine.
I tend to use it for perhaps 5-10minutes. sometimes the limiting factor can be my shins as the pain seems to build up. a similar sensation to shin splints. Reading tuturoials online I have the rest set so that the straps go across the widest part of front of my feet. I think my form is overall very good. but sometimes I do find that the heel of my feet my raise up when 'coming inwards'. which doesn't help my shins. i do my best when pushing to try and place the weight on my heels.
I tend to use it for perhaps 5-10minutes. sometimes the limiting factor can be my shins as the pain seems to build up. a similar sensation to shin splints. Reading tuturoials online I have the rest set so that the straps go across the widest part of front of my feet. I think my form is overall very good. but sometimes I do find that the heel of my feet my raise up when 'coming inwards'. which doesn't help my shins. i do my best when pushing to try and place the weight on my heels.
Missed yesterday's update.
HIIT session yesterday morning and then a 1on1 Thai boxing session for an hour yesterday afternoon. I'm stretching every single day and my flexibility can't come soon enough, going to start doing a little session in the morning and through the day as well with stretching.
HIIT session yesterday morning and then a 1on1 Thai boxing session for an hour yesterday afternoon. I'm stretching every single day and my flexibility can't come soon enough, going to start doing a little session in the morning and through the day as well with stretching.
ambuletz said:
I wonder if anyone can advise. I seem to get shin pain/discomfort when using a rowing machine.
I tend to use it for perhaps 5-10minutes. sometimes the limiting factor can be my shins as the pain seems to build up. a similar sensation to shin splints. Reading tuturoials online I have the rest set so that the straps go across the widest part of front of my feet. I think my form is overall very good. but sometimes I do find that the heel of my feet my raise up when 'coming inwards'. which doesn't help my shins. i do my best when pushing to try and place the weight on my heels.
I rowed to a decent standard as a kid, and my heels certainly lift on the recovery. They also don't press hard until I'm well into the stoke (the initial drive coming from the ball of my foot).I tend to use it for perhaps 5-10minutes. sometimes the limiting factor can be my shins as the pain seems to build up. a similar sensation to shin splints. Reading tuturoials online I have the rest set so that the straps go across the widest part of front of my feet. I think my form is overall very good. but sometimes I do find that the heel of my feet my raise up when 'coming inwards'. which doesn't help my shins. i do my best when pushing to try and place the weight on my heels.
I hope I too am getting it horribly wrong, so I can get much faster just by a technical tweak! But I think you're doing it right and just have some underlying skin issue that is being revealed.
Highlight of today was 250kg squats for 5, 1 more than last week, so progress: www.instagram.com/p/BW6zmsEDIrm
Bunch of other stuff too. Training cycle comes to an end this week, so a rest week next- which is timely because my body is in bits at the moment.
Bunch of other stuff too. Training cycle comes to an end this week, so a rest week next- which is timely because my body is in bits at the moment.
Awesome stuff, DD.
Decent workout for me today.
Squats:: 5 x 5 @ 105kg (60 seconds rest so still quite tough for me)
Bench supersetted with single arm DB rows (8 x 32kg with 2 pauses):
10 x 90kg for my top set. PR. Maybe had a rep in the tank, too, but am avoiding grinding until definitely 100% healed.
Circuit to finish: tricep push downs, face pulls and press ups. I also snuck in about 10 sets of 5 pull ups and chins up dotted between exercises.
Decent workout for me today.
Squats:: 5 x 5 @ 105kg (60 seconds rest so still quite tough for me)
Bench supersetted with single arm DB rows (8 x 32kg with 2 pauses):
10 x 90kg for my top set. PR. Maybe had a rep in the tank, too, but am avoiding grinding until definitely 100% healed.
Circuit to finish: tricep push downs, face pulls and press ups. I also snuck in about 10 sets of 5 pull ups and chins up dotted between exercises.
Fantastic work as always, Didely.
Back to a 3 day a week full body workout. Doing all the main stuff three times a week seems optimal for me, and I make better long term progress..
Squats - 6x12-5 reps
Bench Press - 6x12-2 reps
Power Clean - 8x6-2 reps
BB Clean and Press - 5x12-5 reps
BB BOR - 4x12-10 reps
Wide grip Pull Ups (back of neck to bar) - 4x16-8 reps
Seated Pulley Row - 4x16-12 reps
Back to a 3 day a week full body workout. Doing all the main stuff three times a week seems optimal for me, and I make better long term progress..
Squats - 6x12-5 reps
Bench Press - 6x12-2 reps
Power Clean - 8x6-2 reps
BB Clean and Press - 5x12-5 reps
BB BOR - 4x12-10 reps
Wide grip Pull Ups (back of neck to bar) - 4x16-8 reps
Seated Pulley Row - 4x16-12 reps
Sat/sun/today:
Military Press 2x10@40, 4x6@60kg
Barbell Upright Rows 5x10@40kg
Reverse Pulldown 5x6@80kg
DB Front Raises 5x10@12kg
Smith Shrugs 5x10@100kg
Deads 2x10@60, 2x10@100, 4x3@140, 1x10@100kg
Squats 3x10@60, 5x8@80kg
Lat Pulldown (Plates) 2x10@100, 1x8@120, 1x6@140, 1x2@160, 1x2@170,1x10@100kg
BOR 5x10@80kg
T Bar Row 1x10@40/50/60 1x6@70/80 1x4@90kg
One Arm Row 4x6@40kg/side
Reverse Cable Cross 5x10@6.25kg/side
Really enjoyed today's back session. PB on the Pulldown @170. Deads were feeling better yesterday too, happy with triples @140
Military Press 2x10@40, 4x6@60kg
Barbell Upright Rows 5x10@40kg
Reverse Pulldown 5x6@80kg
DB Front Raises 5x10@12kg
Smith Shrugs 5x10@100kg
Deads 2x10@60, 2x10@100, 4x3@140, 1x10@100kg
Squats 3x10@60, 5x8@80kg
Lat Pulldown (Plates) 2x10@100, 1x8@120, 1x6@140, 1x2@160, 1x2@170,1x10@100kg
BOR 5x10@80kg
T Bar Row 1x10@40/50/60 1x6@70/80 1x4@90kg
One Arm Row 4x6@40kg/side
Reverse Cable Cross 5x10@6.25kg/side
Really enjoyed today's back session. PB on the Pulldown @170. Deads were feeling better yesterday too, happy with triples @140
ORD said:
Good work on the pull downs and deadlifts!
I also think those military presses look pretty strong. You don't see many people doing good reps at 60kg or above (except really large guys).
Ta! Pretty happy with it too.I also think those military presses look pretty strong. You don't see many people doing good reps at 60kg or above (except really large guys).
Little vid, 140 for 6
https://instagram.com/p/BW7QK86lsB5/
Current state:
https://instagram.com/p/BW7s-8zlZL1/
Inspirational stuff on this thread as ever, really find that a browse here every week or so even if I don't comment helps me with wanting to lift
Been messing about the last few months really with inconsistent training schedule and no real set plan. Never really progressed much in my lifts beyond 100kg for squat & DL, about 60kg for bench press in the last 2 years
Determined now to get on with it and get some serious lifts in. Downloaded StrongLifts 5x5 and set some realistic numbers and 1 week in now. Next gym days Thursday & Saturday
Been messing about the last few months really with inconsistent training schedule and no real set plan. Never really progressed much in my lifts beyond 100kg for squat & DL, about 60kg for bench press in the last 2 years
Determined now to get on with it and get some serious lifts in. Downloaded StrongLifts 5x5 and set some realistic numbers and 1 week in now. Next gym days Thursday & Saturday
Good stuff Cap, sounds like a plan!
Today:
Squats 10x10@60kg (One set of 20 in the middle)
2x2@100kg
Leg Press 5x10@160kg
Arnolds 5x10@18kg DBs
EZ Upright Row 5x10@35kg
DB Lat Raises 5x10@8kg
Squat volume has done me, not had a leg wobble like this is while
(I did deads & squats Sunday in my defence)
After my session I went to St Mary's Uni at Twickenham to take part in a study:
'To what extent does male body image affect perceptual and cognitive processing? An investigation using eye-tracking'
Questionnaire, pics in gym gear taken, eye-tracking calibration then shown IG pics of people training, plus the pics they took of me, while they monitored my responses. Mildly interesting.
Today:
Squats 10x10@60kg (One set of 20 in the middle)
2x2@100kg
Leg Press 5x10@160kg
Arnolds 5x10@18kg DBs
EZ Upright Row 5x10@35kg
DB Lat Raises 5x10@8kg
Squat volume has done me, not had a leg wobble like this is while
(I did deads & squats Sunday in my defence)After my session I went to St Mary's Uni at Twickenham to take part in a study:
'To what extent does male body image affect perceptual and cognitive processing? An investigation using eye-tracking'
Questionnaire, pics in gym gear taken, eye-tracking calibration then shown IG pics of people training, plus the pics they took of me, while they monitored my responses. Mildly interesting.
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