What training are you doing/have you done today? Vol.2
Discussion
Animal said:
Did a Gym Jones circuit yesterday: 'Circuit Maximus'
12 x thruster (12kg kettlebells)
12 x deadlift (60kg)
12 x pushup
The aim is 12 rounds in a maximum of 25 minutes. My PB is 28:10 and yesterday I managed only 8 rounds in 25 mins. Still, I'm getting bigger and haven't done much heavy aerobic work in a couple of months.
Doing this tomorrow. 12 x thruster (12kg kettlebells)
12 x deadlift (60kg)
12 x pushup
The aim is 12 rounds in a maximum of 25 minutes. My PB is 28:10 and yesterday I managed only 8 rounds in 25 mins. Still, I'm getting bigger and haven't done much heavy aerobic work in a couple of months.
didelydoo said:
The Olympia has always been a freak show, some look great (Cedric McMillan eg) some just freaks (Ramy, Heath)
There are some big guys with great aesthetics, (McMillan, Gunter, levrone, Wheeler) some just big for bigs sake. But 99.999% of people who train, they needn't be concerned about ending up like that.
Drugs and diet determine the size.
Frank Zane is overrated IMO, Nubert had him aesthetically by a long way, as did Arnie I think.
I'd love to get huge and aesthetic, but it's hard f
king work! Try to look like an Olympian, and you likely never will, but you just might look half decent if you keep at it.
But wouldn't that be pointless given that it is literally impossible without lots of anabolics and lots of growth hormone and lots of insulin and lots of cutting drugs? Same goes for 'physique' just without the insulin and growth hormone. There are some big guys with great aesthetics, (McMillan, Gunter, levrone, Wheeler) some just big for bigs sake. But 99.999% of people who train, they needn't be concerned about ending up like that.
Drugs and diet determine the size.
Frank Zane is overrated IMO, Nubert had him aesthetically by a long way, as did Arnie I think.
I'd love to get huge and aesthetic, but it's hard f
king work! Try to look like an Olympian, and you likely never will, but you just might look half decent if you keep at it.ORD said:
But wouldn't that be pointless given that it is literally impossible without lots of anabolics and lots of growth hormone and lots of insulin and lots of cutting drugs? Same goes for 'physique' just without the insulin and growth hormone.
I was more getting at the work ethic, consistency & dedication side of things.The majority of people complain they can't look this way/that way without trying, for years, consistently. Even small changes take a very long time. Many go to the gym for a couple of months, then stop because they haven't got 20" guns- they then cry steroids, and complain others cheat.
Diet & training have to be nailed down, and it's a long arduous process. If you put the work in for enough time- then you'll reap the rewards- natural or not.
ambuletz said:
What's the deal with some people having veins appearing and running along the top of their bicep? It's not something that appeals to me at all but I notice some people have it, some don't. A result of doing certain lifts? Or just genes.
Bodyfat, genes, training style (and drugs to a degree)Vascularity shows up on people who work hard on particular muscles, thus they need increased blood flow. Certain steroids magnify vascularity also. But generally its mostly down to low BF, most people have them at low levels. If they don't, then the muscle just isn't developed enough.
ambuletz said:
What's the deal with some people having veins appearing and running along the top of their bicep? It's not something that appeals to me at all but I notice some people have it, some don't. A result of doing certain lifts? Or just genes.
Genetics are a factor, but bodyfat percentage is key: the leaner you are the more vascular you'll appear.didelydoo said:
I was more getting at the work ethic, consistency & dedication side of things.
The majority of people complain they can't look this way/that way without trying, for years, consistently. Even small changes take a very long time. Many go to the gym for a couple of months, then stop because they haven't got 20" guns- they then cry steroids, and complain others cheat.
Diet & training have to be nailed down, and it's a long arduous process. If you put the work in for enough time- then you'll reap the rewards- natural or not.
Agree with this, after the initial gains, you have to accept that you need to be in this for the long haul, doing the right exercises and keeping the diet on point (more so as we get older). I don't think many realise the dedication needed. I often see people who would benefit most from doing a full compound workout wasting time working on arms using machines at the gym (usually with PT's)! Sometimes, by the time I have finished my workout (between 6-8 exercises), these people are still on their third arms-only exercise, it's no wonder they eventually give up, especially if they're relying/putting faith in using a PT for instruction (anecdotal evidence, I know)The majority of people complain they can't look this way/that way without trying, for years, consistently. Even small changes take a very long time. Many go to the gym for a couple of months, then stop because they haven't got 20" guns- they then cry steroids, and complain others cheat.
Diet & training have to be nailed down, and it's a long arduous process. If you put the work in for enough time- then you'll reap the rewards- natural or not.
didelydoo said:
I was more getting at the work ethic, consistency & dedication side of things.
The majority of people complain they can't look this way/that way without trying, for years, consistently. Even small changes take a very long time. Many go to the gym for a couple of months, then stop because they haven't got 20" guns- they then cry steroids, and complain others cheat.
Diet & training have to be nailed down, and it's a long arduous process. If you put the work in for enough time- then you'll reap the rewards- natural or not.
I fall into this category, I train every week day eat decent in the week, I progress at the gym in terms of lifts and mind muscle connection, however I love food and beer and indulge at the weekend, due to this 1 or 2 night a week binge I will never have a decent physique as it just isn't worth the sacrifice to me personally also my wife thinks that bodybuilders look gross. The majority of people complain they can't look this way/that way without trying, for years, consistently. Even small changes take a very long time. Many go to the gym for a couple of months, then stop because they haven't got 20" guns- they then cry steroids, and complain others cheat.
Diet & training have to be nailed down, and it's a long arduous process. If you put the work in for enough time- then you'll reap the rewards- natural or not.
didelydoo said:
ORD said:
But wouldn't that be pointless given that it is literally impossible without lots of anabolics and lots of growth hormone and lots of insulin and lots of cutting drugs? Same goes for 'physique' just without the insulin and growth hormone.
I was more getting at the work ethic, consistency & dedication side of things.The majority of people complain they can't look this way/that way without trying, for years, consistently. Even small changes take a very long time. Many go to the gym for a couple of months, then stop because they haven't got 20" guns- they then cry steroids, and complain others cheat.
Diet & training have to be nailed down, and it's a long arduous process. If you put the work in for enough time- then you'll reap the rewards- natural or not.
Even a lot of the guys you see on the front cover of Mens Health or similar are obviously getting PEDs.
I wasn't going to train until Wednesday, as I feel my body is still in recovery mode. but, I couldn't help myself...
Squats - 8x12-5 reps
Bench Press (very wide grip) - 5x12-8 reps - Wide grip was a problem on the last set, as my hands moved outwards a little too much, and couldn't rack the bar otherwise I would have broke my fingers, so had to bring one side down to the safety bar!
BB Clean and Press - 5x12-5 reps
BB BOR (Reverse Grip) - 4x12-8 reps
Wide grip Pull Ups - 4x12-8 reps
Seated Pulley Row (Reverse grip) - 4x12
Squats - 8x12-5 reps
Bench Press (very wide grip) - 5x12-8 reps - Wide grip was a problem on the last set, as my hands moved outwards a little too much, and couldn't rack the bar otherwise I would have broke my fingers, so had to bring one side down to the safety bar!
BB Clean and Press - 5x12-5 reps
BB BOR (Reverse Grip) - 4x12-8 reps
Wide grip Pull Ups - 4x12-8 reps
Seated Pulley Row (Reverse grip) - 4x12
Halb said:
Animal said:
Did a Gym Jones circuit yesterday: 'Circuit Maximus'
12 x thruster (12kg kettlebells)
12 x deadlift (60kg)
12 x pushup
The aim is 12 rounds in a maximum of 25 minutes. My PB is 28:10 and yesterday I managed only 8 rounds in 25 mins. Still, I'm getting bigger and haven't done much heavy aerobic work in a couple of months.
Doing this tomorrow. 12 x thruster (12kg kettlebells)
12 x deadlift (60kg)
12 x pushup
The aim is 12 rounds in a maximum of 25 minutes. My PB is 28:10 and yesterday I managed only 8 rounds in 25 mins. Still, I'm getting bigger and haven't done much heavy aerobic work in a couple of months.
Managed only 7 rounds in the 25, not saying what I did 12 in. Went as I expected, deadlifts was lik picking up a bag of sweets, press-ups got nigh-on impossible very quickly. I realised in the first round that I wouldn't do it. 
That's what sporadic training for two months doesThen some hanging leg raises.
SOmeting interesting, I did a 500m row as a warm-up, noticed I had a good pace and so upped it halfway through, for 1:40. Gonna try and add rows into my new regimen.
Halb said:
Thought I'd do well on this... Managed only 7 rounds in the 25, not saying what I did 12 in. Went as I expected, deadlifts was lik picking up a bag of sweets, press-ups got nigh-on impossible very quickly. I realised in the first round that I wouldn't do it. That's what sporadic training for two months does
Then some hanging leg raises.
SOmeting interesting, I did a 500m row as a warm-up, noticed I had a good pace and so upped it halfway through, for 1:40. Gonna try and add rows into my new regimen.
It's the transitions and the thrusters that that kill me. I can't get enough air into my lungs and I end up panting like an excitable dog! Managed only 7 rounds in the 25, not saying what I did 12 in. Went as I expected, deadlifts was lik picking up a bag of sweets, press-ups got nigh-on impossible very quickly. I realised in the first round that I wouldn't do it. That's what sporadic training for two months doesThen some hanging leg raises.
SOmeting interesting, I did a 500m row as a warm-up, noticed I had a good pace and so upped it halfway through, for 1:40. Gonna try and add rows into my new regimen.
12 rounds in 31:59 this morning. Not great, but much better than last time.
My lunchtime workout:
Deadlift - 5 reps at 80% 1RM (110kg)
Row - 2 mins (min 500m)
Rest 2 mins
3 rounds
Front Squat - 5 reps at 80% 1RM (60kg)
Row - 2 mins (min 500m)
Rest 2 mins
3 rounds
Many carbs and much pain today, I think.
Edited by Animal on Tuesday 17th October 08:54
This morning>
Paused Bench: 3x8x 130kg
Dead: 8x1x 210kg
Also pissed about with squats, but they're too sore, so will leave it for a bit longer. Bench was strong. Deads a bit sore and couldn't get the power down, mostly because of trying out squats previously and aggravating my glute.
Not bad though. I'll probably keep squatting light, until it moves better and without pain.
Paused Bench: 3x8x 130kg
Dead: 8x1x 210kg
Also pissed about with squats, but they're too sore, so will leave it for a bit longer. Bench was strong. Deads a bit sore and couldn't get the power down, mostly because of trying out squats previously and aggravating my glute.
Not bad though. I'll probably keep squatting light, until it moves better and without pain.
Animal said:
It's the transitions and the thrusters that that kill me. I can't get enough air into my lungs and I end up panting like an excitable dog!
12 rounds in 31:59 this morning. Not great, but much better than last time.
My lunchtime workout:
Deadlift - 5 reps at 80% 1RM (110kg)
Row - 2 mins (min 500m)
Rest 2 mins
3 rounds
Front Squat - 5 reps at 80% 1RM (60kg)
Row - 2 mins (min 500m)
Rest 2 mins
3 rounds
Many carbs and much pain today, I think.
Yeah, one starts sucking air pretty quick, managing breathing is a big part of it, at some point I did have to have a massive break to get some air back in.12 rounds in 31:59 this morning. Not great, but much better than last time.
My lunchtime workout:
Deadlift - 5 reps at 80% 1RM (110kg)
Row - 2 mins (min 500m)
Rest 2 mins
3 rounds
Front Squat - 5 reps at 80% 1RM (60kg)
Row - 2 mins (min 500m)
Rest 2 mins
3 rounds
Many carbs and much pain today, I think.
Edited by Animal on Tuesday 17th October 08:54
I set a two minute timer for pace...that went out the window pretty quick.
I tried to look for that specific one on the website, have you the exact link?
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