Is losing weight really that difficult?
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SpunkyGlory said:
This is meant as an innocent discussion and I fully accept it is a subject area I can learn a lot about.
Western culture is geared towards greed (overall but food in particular) with the same doublespeak and deceit used.It is in the interest of making fat profits for the food companies that most of them make their food as addictive as possible.
The documentary, The Men Who Made Us Fat covers all the different aspects of why the explosion in fatties has gone mental since the 70s.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01k0fs0
Hoofy said:
Art0ir said:
Just build more muscle, increase your Basal Metabolic Rate and then eat your heart out
I was 83kg last September with lots of fat and little muscle. Cut to 75kg then spent the past few months bulking responsibly. I'm back up to 82kg and have been for around 2 months, with not too much fat and am eating more than ever.
To increase my weight now I'll actually have to eat more than is comfortable.
Pretty much my attitude these days. People who know me say I eat all the time and they shake their heads but then they add, "but you seem to be able to get away with it."I was 83kg last September with lots of fat and little muscle. Cut to 75kg then spent the past few months bulking responsibly. I'm back up to 82kg and have been for around 2 months, with not too much fat and am eating more than ever.
To increase my weight now I'll actually have to eat more than is comfortable.
Through weight lifting and improving my diet (eating better food not less calories) I lost over a stone whilst actually trying to gain weight, now I am back over where I started but far stronger and looking worlds better.
LordGrover said:
It's quite hard to overeat fresh veg.
I found that isn't true, it turns out if you eat enough vegetables in one sitting the digestive repercussions are deeply unpleasant. Never again .272BHP said:
Is losing weight really that difficult? who cares?
The problem, as always, is the fixation with weight loss. I don't care if I weigh 14stone or 12 stone all I care about is health, performance and being reasonably happy with the reflection in the mirror. Weight loss can be a byproduct of these goals but it should never be the goal in itself.
Concentrate on performance and health (so eat mainly natural foods and train hard to reach your physical potential) and I assure you everything else will sort itself out.
This is the best approach. I have pontificated about this for a few years now but I really have thought this through. Give it some thought and I am confident that in the course of time you will come to the same conclusion - just don't leave it too late.
Life is for living, not weighing food, reading charts and standing on scales.
Indeed, the scales are not a good measure of progress towards becoming a better version of yourself, the mirror and the numbers on the weights are much better. Losing a load of fat and replacing it with muscle won't show any results on the scales but is surely the ultimate goal.The problem, as always, is the fixation with weight loss. I don't care if I weigh 14stone or 12 stone all I care about is health, performance and being reasonably happy with the reflection in the mirror. Weight loss can be a byproduct of these goals but it should never be the goal in itself.
Concentrate on performance and health (so eat mainly natural foods and train hard to reach your physical potential) and I assure you everything else will sort itself out.
This is the best approach. I have pontificated about this for a few years now but I really have thought this through. Give it some thought and I am confident that in the course of time you will come to the same conclusion - just don't leave it too late.
Life is for living, not weighing food, reading charts and standing on scales.
Hoofy said:
Terminator X said:
SpunkyGlory said:
But is it really as difficult as some people seem to think? I'm a firm believer in calories in vs calories out for weight control, and whilst I appreciate there are variables to this simple formula there can't be much more to it than that, can there? Count your calories, avoid foods high in fat and sugar, exercise a couple of times a week and if you're burning more calories than you're consuming you should lose weight. So what am I missing?
You should write a book on it or do a DVD, you'd make £millions man TX.
Page 1: EAT
Page 2: LESS,
Page 3: MOVE
Page 4: MORE,
PAGE 5: FATTY!
But to be honest Eat better and get a bike would cure a lot of "big boned" and "slow metabolism" apologists!
Granfondo said:
Nutritionist on Radio 5 live the other night said that "eat less move more" was the worst bit of advice she has ever heard!
But to be honest Eat better and get a bike would cure a lot of "big boned" and "slow metabolism" apologists!
She's probably on the wrong end of the BMI scale keeping our end from dropping. But to be honest Eat better and get a bike would cure a lot of "big boned" and "slow metabolism" apologists!
227bhp said:
Sod that. I don't care if it's attractive or not, I'm not looking like the sad-sacks in that article . Being the living embodiment of mediocrity will only ever attract mediocrity and those with low self-esteem anyway.TurboHatchback said:
227bhp said:
Sod that. I don't care if it's attractive or not, I'm not looking like the sad-sacks in that article . Being the living embodiment of mediocrity will only ever attract mediocrity and those with low self-esteem anyway.article said:
...when a man goes to the gym but drinks more beer and eats more food than they probably should. It's a "sturdy body with a layer of subcutaneous fat that makes it attractive to have him in your bed when it’s cold outside.
LordGrover said:
TurboHatchback said:
227bhp said:
Sod that. I don't care if it's attractive or not, I'm not looking like the sad-sacks in that article . Being the living embodiment of mediocrity will only ever attract mediocrity and those with low self-esteem anyway.article said:
...when a man goes to the gym but drinks more beer and eats more food than they probably should. It's a "sturdy body with a layer of subcutaneous fat that makes it attractive to have him in your bed when it’s cold outside.
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