Best way to loose stomach?
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I've been having four sessions a week with a PT since July. That's quite expensive. I'm considering reducing the number of sessions soon, I am perfectly capable of exercising alone, but there is no denying that having a session booked and paid for motivates me to go to the gym when otherwise I wouldn't.
RobM77 said:
I agree, but for me it has to be the right weights and done within reason. I personally do actually find that something feels better than being strong: being agile If I could choose any body I liked it would be a diver, F1 driver or triathlete, not a rugby player or a boxer.
PH did a 'hundred pressups' challenge a few years ago, and I followed it, but by the time I got up to about 70 or 80 press-ups I had put on several kilogrammes in muscle, was around a 42" chest and it felt horrible. I couldn't wait to shed it all again. I still do weights, but I do what I can to stay lean and powerful, rather than bulky and strong. If I'm doing regular exercise and weights twice a week, this corresponds to about 70kg for me (I'm 1.77m). There's no way I want to be more than that or more than a 40" chest again.
This is of course all a matter of taste
That whole statement is just a bit odd and slightly contradictory! You can be strong, lean and agile you know, you're more or less saying you want to be small.PH did a 'hundred pressups' challenge a few years ago, and I followed it, but by the time I got up to about 70 or 80 press-ups I had put on several kilogrammes in muscle, was around a 42" chest and it felt horrible. I couldn't wait to shed it all again. I still do weights, but I do what I can to stay lean and powerful, rather than bulky and strong. If I'm doing regular exercise and weights twice a week, this corresponds to about 70kg for me (I'm 1.77m). There's no way I want to be more than that or more than a 40" chest again.
This is of course all a matter of taste
didelydoo said:
RobM77 said:
I agree, but for me it has to be the right weights and done within reason. I personally do actually find that something feels better than being strong: being agile If I could choose any body I liked it would be a diver, F1 driver or triathlete, not a rugby player or a boxer.
PH did a 'hundred pressups' challenge a few years ago, and I followed it, but by the time I got up to about 70 or 80 press-ups I had put on several kilogrammes in muscle, was around a 42" chest and it felt horrible. I couldn't wait to shed it all again. I still do weights, but I do what I can to stay lean and powerful, rather than bulky and strong. If I'm doing regular exercise and weights twice a week, this corresponds to about 70kg for me (I'm 1.77m). There's no way I want to be more than that or more than a 40" chest again.
This is of course all a matter of taste
That whole statement is just a bit odd and slightly contradictory! You can be strong, lean and agile you know, you're more or less saying you want to be small.PH did a 'hundred pressups' challenge a few years ago, and I followed it, but by the time I got up to about 70 or 80 press-ups I had put on several kilogrammes in muscle, was around a 42" chest and it felt horrible. I couldn't wait to shed it all again. I still do weights, but I do what I can to stay lean and powerful, rather than bulky and strong. If I'm doing regular exercise and weights twice a week, this corresponds to about 70kg for me (I'm 1.77m). There's no way I want to be more than that or more than a 40" chest again.
This is of course all a matter of taste
RobM77 said:
ambuletz said:
There is no reason NOT to do weights.
the main purpose for weight lifting is to retain muscle mass during a calorie deficit. for someone who's fat and not doing exericse they'll lose a fair bit of muscle along with it and end up being 'skinny fat'. new people to weight lifting might make a slight amount of gains, and also strength. nothing feels better then feeling strong. it'll improve your core, your posture (if you lift right), and overhall help with body recomposition.
lift 2-3 times a week + do daily low/moderate intensity cardio (20-60min), eat plenty (but still make sure you're in a deficit).
lets say that's 2500cals while having a -500 deficit
it's a million times better than being sedentry every single day and picking at 2000cals for a -500cal deficit
I agree, but for me it has to be the right weights and done within reason. I personally do actually find that something feels better than being strong: being agile If I could choose any body I liked it would be a diver, F1 driver or triathlete, not a rugby player or a boxer.the main purpose for weight lifting is to retain muscle mass during a calorie deficit. for someone who's fat and not doing exericse they'll lose a fair bit of muscle along with it and end up being 'skinny fat'. new people to weight lifting might make a slight amount of gains, and also strength. nothing feels better then feeling strong. it'll improve your core, your posture (if you lift right), and overhall help with body recomposition.
lift 2-3 times a week + do daily low/moderate intensity cardio (20-60min), eat plenty (but still make sure you're in a deficit).
lets say that's 2500cals while having a -500 deficit
it's a million times better than being sedentry every single day and picking at 2000cals for a -500cal deficit
PH did a 'hundred pressups' challenge a few years ago, and I followed it, but by the time I got up to about 70 or 80 press-ups I had put on several kilogrammes in muscle, was around a 42" chest and it felt horrible. I couldn't wait to shed it all again. I still do weights, but I do what I can to stay lean and powerful, rather than bulky and strong. If I'm doing regular exercise and weights twice a week, this corresponds to about 70kg for me (I'm 1.77m). There's no way I want to be more than that or more than a 40" chest again.
This is of course all a matter of taste
I dont doubt it puts on muscle but several kilogrammes from just doing one exercise, I take several as being four maybe five, guess it must be possible but seems a lot.
johnwilliams77 said:
didelydoo said:
That whole statement is just a bit odd and slightly contradictory! You can be strong, lean and agile you know, you're more or less saying you want to be small.
This. Triathletes, formula 1 drivers, gymnasts are pretty 'strong', without looking like bodybuilders.RobM77 said:
didelydoo said:
RobM77 said:
I agree, but for me it has to be the right weights and done within reason. I personally do actually find that something feels better than being strong: being agile If I could choose any body I liked it would be a diver, F1 driver or triathlete, not a rugby player or a boxer.
PH did a 'hundred pressups' challenge a few years ago, and I followed it, but by the time I got up to about 70 or 80 press-ups I had put on several kilogrammes in muscle, was around a 42" chest and it felt horrible. I couldn't wait to shed it all again. I still do weights, but I do what I can to stay lean and powerful, rather than bulky and strong. If I'm doing regular exercise and weights twice a week, this corresponds to about 70kg for me (I'm 1.77m). There's no way I want to be more than that or more than a 40" chest again.
This is of course all a matter of taste
That whole statement is just a bit odd and slightly contradictory! You can be strong, lean and agile you know, you're more or less saying you want to be small.PH did a 'hundred pressups' challenge a few years ago, and I followed it, but by the time I got up to about 70 or 80 press-ups I had put on several kilogrammes in muscle, was around a 42" chest and it felt horrible. I couldn't wait to shed it all again. I still do weights, but I do what I can to stay lean and powerful, rather than bulky and strong. If I'm doing regular exercise and weights twice a week, this corresponds to about 70kg for me (I'm 1.77m). There's no way I want to be more than that or more than a 40" chest again.
This is of course all a matter of taste
I personally just want to look lean and toned, carry a bit of muscle but not be that big, I dont have the dedication to do that anyway, I am noticing more shape as the fat is going, I have backed off on doing as much weight as I can and am doing sensible weights with more reps, will see where I am at once the blubber is banished, then I can see what I need to focus on better, for me I think the Daniel Craig type Physique is what to aim for, not the Rock.
It is very compelling getting slimmer and fitter, had a family gathering the other day and am usually the podgeist bloke there, not any more, I have raised my game and others had let theirs slip, it isnt a competition but got sick of being told I had put weight on, funnily enough, no weight based quips this time.
I am sure some people massively underestimate just how much dedication and 'suffering' is required to put on muscle that is even vaguely noticeable. I have read that some think that drinking whey protein and doing the most rudimentary exercises will make then look like a pro-bodybuilder in 6 weeks!
chris watton said:
I am sure some people massively underestimate just how much dedication and 'suffering' is required to put on muscle that is even vaguely noticeable. I have read that some think that drinking whey protein and doing the most rudimentary exercises will make then look like a pro-bodybuilder in 6 weeks!
Nah, you need at least 8 weeks And then someone will tell you knowingly that you best keep it up as otherwise it will all turn to fat....
chris watton said:
I am sure some people massively underestimate just how much dedication and 'suffering' is required to put on muscle that is even vaguely noticeable. I have read that some think that drinking whey protein and doing the most rudimentary exercises will make then look like a pro-bodybuilder in 6 weeks!
Yup- It's a massively long process to gain muscle mass, and then it's a pain to be lean enough to look like you've gained it, by which point most people end up back where they began. Gassing Station | Health Matters | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff