Ultra White Collar Boxing

Ultra White Collar Boxing

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Slickus

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129 posts

135 months

Wednesday 7th June 2017
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So here's my ring entrance...
https://youtu.be/RIzETYhK7kU

And a video of the 1st round...
https://youtu.be/xQpiLc7kFwI

V8mate

45,899 posts

189 months

Wednesday 7th June 2017
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Slickus said:
And a video of the 1st round...
https://youtu.be/xQpiLc7kFwI
Good effort!

I think your most obvious weakness was that each time the two of you re-engaged, you led with an obvious and energy-sapping right hook. Need to save those big ones!

ben5575

6,272 posts

221 months

Wednesday 7th June 2017
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Good effort indeed. And well done for putting the video up!

Looked like a good scrap. He's done it before.

Slickus

Original Poster:

129 posts

135 months

Thursday 8th June 2017
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V8, 100%. After about 20 seconds i realised that jabs and punching him down wouldn't work. At the time i thought the best approach is to just throw bombs, putting everything into each punch, hoping one would land and end him. Start of the 2nd round was when i'd burnt out my arms and it was hard work to hold my hands up, let alone throw decent punches.

ben, I had only seen him at 1 training session out of 16, and i went to 15 of those sessions. I spoke to the Ref afterwards who also runs the training with other trainers, and he'd never seen the bloke before either. So i was on the understanding the bloke was doing other training outside of what was laid on for the fighters (twice a week training). But then i was doing extra sparring etc outside as well, so i wasn't too fazed.

Mentioned to Mrs Slickus last night about doing it again. It's very addictive and i can see why a lot of people who took part in this event just gone, have already signed up for the next event in Southampton in August. I'd like to give it a year though, fight again around this time next year. Although the response from Mrs. Slickus wasn't great (she likes my face as it is), but i have about 8 months to win her over ;-)
Not done any training so far this week. Giving the body a rest and having fun with the family at home. Tennis and football at the weekend though and come next week, training starts again with a new goal to lose 3 stone by October (holiday).

Cheers guys.

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Thursday 8th June 2017
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Slickus said:
Start of the 2nd round was when i'd burnt out my arms and it was hard work to hold my hands up, let alone throw decent punches.
This was the focus of the routine I posted. Doing that allows you to maintain arms for defence and thump for all rounds at the same level.

I've watched a bit of the vid, well done, it certainly takes patience and commitment to train for this thing.
So you're allowed to do it three times? Are they afraid of people getting hurt from thumps?

Slickus

Original Poster:

129 posts

135 months

Thursday 8th June 2017
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Halb said:
Slickus said:
Start of the 2nd round was when i'd burnt out my arms and it was hard work to hold my hands up, let alone throw decent punches.
This was the focus of the routine I posted. Doing that allows you to maintain arms for defence and thump for all rounds at the same level.

I've watched a bit of the vid, well done, it certainly takes patience and commitment to train for this thing.
So you're allowed to do it three times? Are they afraid of people getting hurt from thumps?
In training i was able to defend well and keep throwing round after round, although my weakness was aggression. This is something i tried to let out in the first round. Think in the video of the first round, i land a pretty decent hook to the head, and then the body, but they really didn't do much other than take away some of my energy.

Apparently so yea, 3 times. As i say, quite a few of the guys who i was training with and had their own fights on the night, have already signed up for the next event. It's a business, obviously they have paperwork signed off about injuries etc and whats covered and not, but as long as UWCB sell tickets for each event, they're happy.

ORD

18,120 posts

127 months

Thursday 8th June 2017
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I dont think the technical flaws were as a big a problem as lack of conditioning. The other guy looked much stronger and fitter, to my eyes anyway.

Nonetheless, great effort! Do try to stay in shape, though, as it is much harder to get back into shape than just to maintain the fitness that you have. A few lazy months will see you back to your worst!

Slickus

Original Poster:

129 posts

135 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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Full fight (all 4 minutes of it) now up on YT....
https://youtu.be/1FC9j5xLJTM

Zoon

6,706 posts

121 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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Good effort.

ORD

18,120 posts

127 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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Agreed - you left it all out there, mate!

Watching the whole fight, I think you were let down by conditioning more than anything else. You were forced onto the defensive almost all the time because you were gassed. The other guy didnt really throw any punches - he just let you gas yourself over and then bundled into you!

ben5575

6,272 posts

221 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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As I said previously, he's clearly done that before. He was also a lot bigger and certainly wasn't being very 'charitable' in his approach laugh

The biggest thing (well apart from him) you deal with the first time is the unknown. Now you know what to expect, the next time will be a lot easier.

As before, well done for having the balls to post the fight smile

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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Jesus man, in this heat I got exhausted just watching that. Much respect to you.

If you do plan to do this again, I'd say spend 3 months working hard on your cardio before you even sign up, and do that routine I posted.

well done

ORD

18,120 posts

127 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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Traditional steady-state cardio wont help much though, right, Halb? You need HIIT and repeated bout endurance training for that kind of thing (i.e. exactly what UFC fighters do now in training). The kind of stuff you do would be ideal - circuits, etc.

V8mate

45,899 posts

189 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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Further to training regimes^^, I reckon... the two of you were matched by weight. You're not over-weight, of course, just vertically challenged in ratio to your height wink

Lose weight, and you'll get to pick on someone your own size!

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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ORD said:
Traditional steady-state cardio wont help much though, right, Halb? You need HIIT and repeated bout endurance training for that kind of thing (i.e. exactly what UFC fighters do now in training). The kind of stuff you do would be ideal - circuits, etc.
Indeed Yeah you are right, that's what I meant, but I didn't specify, oopsy! I noticed when I went back to my running, it had seriously improved thanks to the circuits I did.
The sort of cardio I do help strength and power. I had specific reasons why I started it, but I am happy with how my body looks now, so will be keeping at least one hard circuit a week.

Nice page for sport specific aids
https://www.brianmac.co.uk/boxing/index.htm

Slickus

Original Poster:

129 posts

135 months

Wednesday 21st June 2017
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After a couple of weeks of reflection on the fight and the whole training period, i feel i could of done more in the way of training and cardio, but outside life dictates how much time i can spend on this. Little lad is 5 months old today and it's been nice to actually be in during the evenings and put him to bed, as apposed to being at the gym each night. Going to the gym a couple of times a week right now, and playing tennis and football once a week also, so still getting a sweat on, but not as intense, and gives mum a break from baby duties when i'm home.

I want to run a 10k next year in Southampton, and this would be during the 8 week training period for a fight, so that could be a plan. But for now my goal is to lose another 2 stone by October (holiday), and then a big push from then to trim down even more for the 10k and potential second fight, aiming to be around the 15 stone mark (currently 18 stone, and only put 2 pound on since the fight).

Cheers for your kind words and advice guys.

ORD

18,120 posts

127 months

Wednesday 21st June 2017
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Training for a 10k is vastly different from training for a fight.

Back in the day I could wrestle or spar or do throws for an hour or so but could barely scrape a 45 minute 10k. Steady state cardio is not what you want or need for fighting. It's also fairly useless for fat loss, but that's a different different argument.

I think one issue for you, OP, is that the boxing promoters seem to have set you up on a pretty inefficient training regime. You could get lean, strong and fit with 3 shortish workouts per week if you followed a programme with a mix of compound lifts, HIIT and circuits. All that running is just a very time consuming way of getting injured and otherwise staying pretty much the same.

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Wednesday 21st June 2017
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If you wanna be serious about winning, don't do any training for anything else while you train for the fight.

V8mate

45,899 posts

189 months

Wednesday 21st June 2017
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ORD said:
Training for a 10k is vastly different from training for a fight.

Back in the day I could wrestle or spar or do throws for an hour or so but could barely scrape a 45 minute 10k. Steady state cardio is not what you want or need for fighting. It's also fairly useless for fat loss, but that's a different different argument.

I think one issue for you, OP, is that the boxing promoters seem to have set you up on a pretty inefficient training regime. You could get lean, strong and fit with 3 shortish workouts per week if you followed a programme with a mix of compound lifts, HIIT and circuits. All that running is just a very time consuming way of getting injured and otherwise staying pretty much the same.
I don't like agreeing with ORD wink but he's spot on. If you want to be a runner and have a generally healthy outlook, knock yourself out and go run (though I'd lose those 3 stone before you start to protect your hips and knees!)

If you want to box and be strong, it's all about explosive strength and then building a stamina regime which supports that. I did just over a year of 'boxing training' (i.e. with no intention of fighting) as part of making constant weightlifting sessions more interesting. They included plenty of (gloves-off) HIIT and also three minute sessions of constant punching.

Bikesalot

1,835 posts

158 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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Bit of a revival!

Great read and cracking effort. I’m about to sign up for my local event in November...!