Fitness Standards ?

[Halb]

Watch Steve Austin's Challenge, that's a good representation of fit I reckon.

lrdisco said:

Run 10k no problem but at a very steady 8.5kph.

Nice! That's 10k in 70mins at 121kg!

[jshell]

jshell said:

Pulled a 7m24sec 2000m this morning, well chuffed! @51 years old!!!! Had to lie with feet elevated for a few minutes afterwards, though...

Had a PT session this morning and decided to play with the Rower for 100m & 200m at level 10 afterwards: 16.4 secs and 34.8 secs.

I was getting bored with the standard 2km so reading the PH Rowing WIki piqued my interest in trying to do some sprints. Maybe try the 500m in a few days, as long as there's someone beside me to resuscitate!

[Halb]

jshell said:

Had a PT session this morning and decided to play with the Rower for 100m & 200m at level 10 afterwards: 16.4 secs and 34.8 secs.

I was getting bored with the standard 2km so reading the PH Rowing WIki piqued my interest in trying to do some sprints. Maybe try the 500m in a few days, as long as there's someone beside me to resuscitate!

Set the level thing to whatever is the correct whatsit for you, (there is a way to figure it) and then post your times in the wiki.

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ah I see you did, I slotted you in the correct place in the 100m list

Edited by Halb on Saturday 13th May 10:35

[jshell]

Halb said:

Set the level thing to whatever is the correct whatsit for you, (there is a way to figure it) and then post your times in the wiki.

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ah I see you did, I slotted you in the correct place in the 100m list

Um, I always just fire it up to 10, is there something more scientific?? Off to do some google-fu...

[clonmult]

jshell said:

jshell said:

Pulled a 7m24sec 2000m this morning, well chuffed! @51 years old!!!! Had to lie with feet elevated for a few minutes afterwards, though...

Had a PT session this morning and decided to play with the Rower for 100m & 200m at level 10 afterwards: 16.4 secs and 34.8 secs.

I was getting bored with the standard 2km so reading the PH Rowing WIki piqued my interest in trying to do some sprints. Maybe try the 500m in a few days, as long as there's someone beside me to resuscitate!

Damper settings are not levels .... (I did a couple of low rate 500s yesterday on the ski erg - deretricted max drag and restricted minimum drag, exactly the same pace)

16.4 seconds for a 100m is quite good. I've got to steer clear of the 100m, as my last attempts with a bad back just made it worse (although i did clock 15.8, way off my PB of 15.2). I then proceeded to make the back even worse by doing 30 second intervals.

My partner has said that we're both doing a 2k time trial in a couple of weeks, if my back is okay I'll be targeting sub 7 - although as I can do 2k on the ski erg in around 7:30, I should be sub 7 on the erg regardless. Guess the only aim is to be faster than Hugh Jackman.

The 500 is absolutely hateful, good luck!

[jshell]

clonmult said:

jshell said:

jshell said:

Pulled a 7m24sec 2000m this morning, well chuffed! @51 years old!!!! Had to lie with feet elevated for a few minutes afterwards, though...

Had a PT session this morning and decided to play with the Rower for 100m & 200m at level 10 afterwards: 16.4 secs and 34.8 secs.

I was getting bored with the standard 2km so reading the PH Rowing WIki piqued my interest in trying to do some sprints. Maybe try the 500m in a few days, as long as there's someone beside me to resuscitate!

Damper settings are not levels .... (I did a couple of low rate 500s yesterday on the ski erg - deretricted max drag and restricted minimum drag, exactly the same pace)

16.4 seconds for a 100m is quite good. I've got to steer clear of the 100m, as my last attempts with a bad back just made it worse (although i did clock 15.8, way off my PB of 15.2). I then proceeded to make the back even worse by doing 30 second intervals.

My partner has said that we're both doing a 2k time trial in a couple of weeks, if my back is okay I'll be targeting sub 7 - although as I can do 2k on the ski erg in around 7:30, I should be sub 7 on the erg regardless. Guess the only aim is to be faster than Hugh Jackman.

The 500 is absolutely hateful, good luck!

Thanks!

Right, different gym and Concept 2. 100m at Damper setting 5 and time is exactly the same as per the previous 16.4secs. Revelation/re-evaluation after all this time at 10...

1st attempt level 10:

2nd attempt level 5:


With a 500m thrown in for good measure:


Sorry for slightly O/T'ing the thread, but this Damper thing has got me interested/piqued/mildly annoyed!

[Zod]

jshell said:

Halb said:

Set the level thing to whatever is the correct whatsit for you, (there is a way to figure it) and then post your times in the wiki.

edit
ah I see you did, I slotted you in the correct place in the 100m list

Um, I always just fire it up to 10, is there something more scientific?? Off to do some google-fu...

Every Concept 2 will produce a different result at a given damper setting because of air conditions and the elasticity of the cable inside. You need to set a consistent drag factor across machines. Go into "other options in the PM" and look for "set drag factor". Set it between 130 and 140, wherever it feels right to you, by pulling s few strokes and moving the damper lever to get the right drag factor.

[jshell]

Zod said:

jshell said:

Halb said:

Set the level thing to whatever is the correct whatsit for you, (there is a way to figure it) and then post your times in the wiki.

edit
ah I see you did, I slotted you in the correct place in the 100m list

Um, I always just fire it up to 10, is there something more scientific?? Off to do some google-fu...

Every Concept 2 will produce a different result at a given damper setting because of air conditions and the elasticity of the cable inside. You need to set a consistent drag factor across machines. Go into "other options in the PM" and look for "set drag factor". Set it between 130 and 140, wherever it feels right to you, by pulling s few strokes and moving the damper lever to get the right drag factor.

Thanks for the easy directions!

[Halb]

I see you've just posted a good 2,000 time! Well done.

[jshell]

Halb said:

I see you've just posted a good 2,000 time! Well done.

Thanks, but I had posted it in the wrong place the other week and just moved it....

Trying to get back into it, but some of the times in the Wiki are pnenomenal....

[Johnny]

Subscribing to this thread, having read the first 2 pages

About to leave work so will comment later but this has certainly piqued my interest.

Good stuff.

[clonmult]

jshell said:

Halb said:

I see you've just posted a good 2,000 time! Well done.

Thanks, but I had posted it in the wrong place the other week and just moved it....

Trying to get back into it, but some of the times in the Wiki are pnenomenal....

One thing though - you should only post times based on the memory screen, not the summary - especially on a 100m. The summary screen at the end of the row is frequently out by a tenth of a second (generally not in your favour). You have to go back into the memory and recall the last row to get the verified time.

Sometimes the summary gives you a tantalising glimpse of potential pace - I've had the erg show me a 15.1 second 100m, but I knew it was going to round up - and it did. Then proceeded to get irritated by a manager at work who went on to do a 14.5 - but his excuse is that he's an ex professional rower

After all this talk I tried a 2k trial yesterday. 7:15, but the office gym has broken heating, which means its like working out in a sauna. Makes for a good chance of overheating.

[Halb]

interesting to know
recently got back into using the rower, thought I'd use the 500 row as a nice wake me up, and played around with the damper settings today, normally have it on 10, but tried 6 and got a decent time, even after being tired and giving up in the last 50 (I misread the screen and thought I was way off the wanted time)

[ED209]

AndStilliRise said:

Running:
5k Sub 19min - Very fit
5k Sub 21min - fit
10k Sub 40min - Very fit
10 Sub 43min - fit

Cycling:
+21mph +60m - very fit
20mph +60m - fit

Those standards seem rather extreme for the general population. I consider myself to be very fit compared to most people but I am nowhere near that. In fact i don't know anyone who averages 20mph on a 60 mile ride! I once averaged 18.5mph over 56 miles during a triathlon (on a normal road bike).

[Kavin]

There is not a specific metric to measure the fitness level. It varies from person to person. But if somebody is able to run 5 miles with 2 minutes of push ups and 2 minutes of pull ups , and can jump 5 feet, then we can say him a fit person.

[johnwilliams77]

Kavin said:

There is not a specific metric to measure the fitness level. It varies from person to person. But if somebody is able to run 5 miles with 2 minutes of push ups and 2 minutes of pull ups , and can jump 5 feet, then we can say him a fit person.

Or under a 3hr 30 Marathon he/she is probably fit too

[gregs656]

2 minutes off pull ups? How many pull ups is that in a row? I doubt many people could do 2 full minutes of pull ups, in fact I doubt many people could do 2 minutes of just static hanging, let alone with pull ups thrown in.

[jshell]

gregs656 said:

2 minutes off pull ups? How many pull ups is that in a row? I doubt many people could do 2 full minutes of pull ups, in fact I doubt many people could do 2 minutes of just static hanging, let alone with pull ups thrown in.

Most people can't do 2 pull ups.

[Halb]

a robot?

[mcelliott]

I did a full minute of slow measured pull ups, managed 15 by which time everything was burning, 2 minutes, haha no way.