Phat Fighters Q3

[J4CKO]

Thing is, you are tracking it, that is the main part, not just ignoring it and letting it spiral.

I am back down to pre-holiday weight of 14.10 today after my first gym visit in almost two weeks, pleased with that, now to start back on chipping away at getting down to 14 or under.

[ASA569]

Ki3r said:

Sorry for the triple post...

Back from the gym. Felt too easy today, should have pushed myself with the weights but was worried about my arm. Going away for two days with work so didn't want to risk it playing up. Upped a few weights though.

Only did 10 minutes in total on the bike as I overslept.

But jumped on the scales...down to 122.4kg. Down 5.2kg. Over the moon about this.

Will most likely go up this week as away with work and going out tonight for food...and by the sounds of it, it will just be a take away. We shall see.

I don't think anyone would mind a triple post It's good to see this thread still going and hopefully will motivate others to join - and some of us to behave ourselves

5.2 kg is incredible for just over a week though. That's nearly a stone!

[danpalmer1993]

Ki3r said:

http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/fitness/Pages/why-do-I-...

Sounds like I have this.

Very normal, I get it after doing weights for the last few months. Right now my triceps are killing and ache when trying to straighten my arms. Sign of a good work out! Let them recover for a few days before doing the body area again.

[Mark Benson]

ASA569 said:

I don't think anyone would mind a triple post

Better than a Triple Whopper

Down to 82kg today - now doing about 450-500 cals a morning on the bike at the gym, then fruit for breakfast, sandwich or soup for lunch then supper as normal with the family. No refined sugar, cakes, biscuits or snacks and the weight's coming off at about 1kg a week which I feel is sustainable.

Difficult though as my 6 year old has Cystic Fibrosis which means she needs a 3500 calorie a day, high fat diet just to grow normally - the house is stuffed full of high calorie foods and snacks but thankfully my wife is understanding and tries to make what she gives me a bit leaner.

[ASA569]

Mark Benson said:

ASA569 said:

I don't think anyone would mind a triple post

Better than a Triple Whopper

Down to 82kg today - now doing about 450-500 cals a morning on the bike at the gym, then fruit for breakfast, sandwich or soup for lunch then supper as normal with the family. No refined sugar, cakes, biscuits or snacks and the weight's coming off at about 1kg a week which I feel is sustainable.

Difficult though as my 6 year old has Cystic Fibrosis which means she needs a 3500 calorie a day, high fat diet just to grow normally - the house is stuffed full of high calorie foods and snacks but thankfully my wife is understanding and tries to make what she gives me a bit leaner.

Hell yeah

I'm impressed with your will power though living in a house full of snacks. It must make life much more difficult but worth it so see your daughter grow

[Ki3r]

ASA569 said:

I don't think anyone would mind a triple post It's good to see this thread still going and hopefully will motivate others to join - and some of us to behave ourselves

5.2 kg is incredible for just over a week though. That's nearly a stone!

I think it goes to show how much ste I was eating. Would be 6+ sweets in a day, two bottles of 7UP plus lunch and another can of 7UP.

Now I've not had a chocolate bar since the start of the month. First few days were ste but now I'm not bothered.

Did have subway for lunch though...it was free after all.

[ASA569]

Ki3r said:

ASA569 said:

I don't think anyone would mind a triple post It's good to see this thread still going and hopefully will motivate others to join - and some of us to behave ourselves

5.2 kg is incredible for just over a week though. That's nearly a stone!

I think it goes to show how much ste I was eating. Would be 6+ sweets in a day, two bottles of 7UP plus lunch and another can of 7UP.

Now I've not had a chocolate bar since the start of the month. First few days were ste but now I'm not bothered.

Did have subway for lunch though...it was free after all.

It’ll be a combination of exercise and your body adjusting to the new diet regime that’s helped lose that amount of kilos. Your body will be shedding excess water/toxins or something although I can't work out which as I was always taught sugar is a diuretic. It definitely won't be diet alone that has done this as you’d need a roughly 40,000 calorie deficit to lose 5.2 kg. I'd be interested to hear other people's thoughts on it.

My update, down 0.35 kg to 75.55 kg despite the weekend away so I'm happy. I'm beginning to see a bit of muscle definition in my arms and torso as well which is nice although there is still some rolls of fat to get rid of. Slowly but surely I'll get there

[J4CKO]

ASA569 said:

Ki3r said:

ASA569 said:

I don't think anyone would mind a triple post It's good to see this thread still going and hopefully will motivate others to join - and some of us to behave ourselves

5.2 kg is incredible for just over a week though. That's nearly a stone!

I think it goes to show how much ste I was eating. Would be 6+ sweets in a day, two bottles of 7UP plus lunch and another can of 7UP.

Now I've not had a chocolate bar since the start of the month. First few days were ste but now I'm not bothered.

Did have subway for lunch though...it was free after all.

It’ll be a combination of exercise and your body adjusting to the new diet regime that’s helped lose that amount of kilos. Your body will be shedding excess water/toxins or something although I can't work out which as I was always taught sugar is a diuretic. It definitely won't be diet alone that has done this as you’d need a roughly 40,000 calorie deficit to lose 5.2 kg. I'd be interested to hear other people's thoughts on it.

My update, down 0.35 kg to 75.55 kg despite the weekend away so I'm happy. I'm beginning to see a bit of muscle definition in my arms and torso as well which is nice although there is still some rolls of fat to get rid of. Slowly but surely I'll get there

Yeah, you cant lose 5.2 kilos of fat in a week without cutting it off, but you can lose quite a lot of weight, it is all interrelated but its like I mentioned earlier,t here are different processes going on fat loss, muscle gain are the key ones we are interested in but also these things affect your scale weight,

Hydration level/ water retention, booze can bloat you for example, salt makes you hang on to water.
Food in transit, i.e.in your stomach and through to your bowel
Glycogen levels
Inflammation
Time of day

I went from 14.10 to 15.4 and back in two week period, up one week going daft, and down the next when being sensible, no way did I lose and gain 8 pounds of fat, I just changed from my normal regime and back, normally I hover at 14.9, it took me about 8 months to lose three stone.

It needs to be seen as a long term thing, track the weight over time, day to day is useful but best not to get cocky or despondent over a couple of pounds, it is what is going on behind the normal fluctuations we are interested in, so you need to see your lowest scale weight drop and the average to move down, week on week, anything else is fluctuations, though 5.2 kilos in a week will have involved some fat, wont be anywhere near 5.2 kilos unless starved and on 14 hours of enforced physical activity a day !

I was up a bit this morning but I know why, big meal last night and didn't "go" yesterday, since been made up for * 2, too much detail but you get the point, skipped breakfast to make up for the big meal as well, wasnt hungry.

Edited by J4CKO on Friday 11th August 13:26

[oldbanger]

No weigh in this week as I am travelling. I did consider taking the scales but saw sense lol

Fingers crossed I don't gain too much

[STO]

I`m down to 15 stone 12 pounds, roughly 5 pounds since the start of July not as good as I was hoping.

[ASA569]

J4CKO said:

Yeah, you cant lose 5.2 kilos of fat in a week without cutting it off, but you can lose quite a lot of weight, it is all interrelated but its like I mentioned earlier,t here are different processes going on fat loss, muscle gain are the key ones we are interested in but also these things affect your scale weight,

Hydration level/ water retention, booze can bloat you for example, salt makes you hang on to water.
Food in transit, i.e.in your stomach and through to your bowel
Glycogen levels
Inflammation
Time of day

I went from 14.10 to 15.4 and back in two week period, up one week going daft, and down the next when being sensible, no way did I lose and gain 8 pounds of fat, I just changed from my normal regime and back, normally I hover at 14.9, it took me about 8 months to lose three stone.

It needs to be seen as a long term thing, track the weight over time, day to day is useful but best not to get cocky or despondent over a couple of pounds, it is what is going on behind the normal fluctuations we are interested in, so you need to see your lowest scale weight drop and the average to move down, week on week, anything else is fluctuations, though 5.2 kilos in a week will have involved some fat, wont be anywhere near 5.2 kilos unless starved and on 14 hours of enforced physical activity a day !

I was up a bit this morning but I know why, big meal last night and didn't "go" yesterday, since been made up for * 2, too much detail but you get the point, skipped breakfast to make up for the big meal as well, wasnt hungry.

Edited by J4CKO on Friday 11th August 13:26

Cheers for the explanation. I should know all of that and did once but have forgotten it all

Over time is definitely the best judge - well that and bumping in to someone you've not seen for a while and seeing the look on their face at the change in you. Yes that happened to me today and what an ego boost it is

Oldbanger, I feel your pain about travelling, I'm going to be away from the scales for 2.5 weeks after next Friday and I have to admit I'm slightly worried about behaving myself when I know I won't see the numerical evidence of eating and drinking too much. I'm going to try and stick to my rule of being sensible in the week and allowing myself treats at the weekend but it's going to be tough. I'm not sure I've completely accepted yet that this is how it has to be from now on and I cannot consume the amount of food and drink I used to without consequences (excess weight, heartburn, rising blood pressure etc.)

[Ki3r]

Back to the gym today. Had the weekend off due to work (was planning to go Friday evening, but a six and a half hour drive instead of two and a half hours put me off!). Didn't eat that well as it was my brothers birthday.

But back to the gym today, upper body again. 24 minutes on the bike. Managed my furthest distance in that time, just under seven miles. 6.96 miles. Hoping to get to seven next time.

Going to start taking food into work, no point working hard in the gym and ruining it at lunch time. Got some chicken, spuds and broccoli to cook in a bit that can be shoved in the microwave (thankfully I drive round with a fridge on the back so can shove it in there until lunch).

Plan I'm following is meant to be six days at the gym this week, but due to work and things I won't be able to make six days. We shall see though.

I'll be happy if I weigh the same as last week, as with going away with work and getting free subways and my brothers birthday I'm not expecting a loss!

[oldbanger]

ASA569 said:

Oldbanger, I feel your pain about travelling, I'm going to be away from the scales for 2.5 weeks after next Friday and I have to admit I'm slightly worried about behaving myself when I know I won't see the numerical evidence of eating and drinking too much. I'm going to try and stick to my rule of being sensible in the week and allowing myself treats at the weekend but it's going to be tough. I'm not sure I've completely accepted yet that this is how it has to be from now on and I cannot consume the amount of food and drink I used to without consequences (excess weight, heartburn, rising blood pressure etc.)

For me, I am very carb sensitive. Over 60g per day and I start to gain (water initially, but also fat very fast). Intermittent fasting and very low carb is hard to sustain when eating out and having to sort food for loads of kids. The kids don't travel well either (2 with aspies and another 2 with other developmental disorders - it's a big family holiday with cousins etc) and I tend to be a stress eater. The OH has already gone down with a bug.

[ASA569]

oldbanger said:

ASA569 said:

Oldbanger, I feel your pain about travelling, I'm going to be away from the scales for 2.5 weeks after next Friday and I have to admit I'm slightly worried about behaving myself when I know I won't see the numerical evidence of eating and drinking too much. I'm going to try and stick to my rule of being sensible in the week and allowing myself treats at the weekend but it's going to be tough. I'm not sure I've completely accepted yet that this is how it has to be from now on and I cannot consume the amount of food and drink I used to without consequences (excess weight, heartburn, rising blood pressure etc.)

For me, I am very carb sensitive. Over 60g per day and I start to gain (water initially, but also fat very fast). Intermittent fasting and very low carb is hard to sustain when eating out and having to sort food for loads of kids. The kids don't travel well either (2 with aspies and another 2 with other developmental disorders - it's a big family holiday with cousins etc) and I tend to be a stress eater. The OH has already gone down with a bug.

That's not going to be easy You have my full admiration for what you cope with

[Ki3r]

Jumped on the scales this morning and to my amazement...im the same as last week! Official weigh day is Thursday morning so we'll see.

Bloody hard day at work today with lots of lifting and walking and back to the gym tomorrow .

[p1stonhead]

Well I've had a shocker personally. Haven't moved 1lb since my last post

[Ki3r]

Good gym session today, upped the weights and pushed myself on the bike. Haven't quite cracked the seven miles in 24 minutes though. Noticed my tops are looking bigger on me now which is good (not so good for my bank balance...).

Might have jumped on the scales at the gym as not sure if I'm going to have time to go tomorrow. Down to 121.6kg. Total of 6kg lost so far, 13.2lbs...so close to a stone.

Over the moon at how its going. Actually enjoying the gym for a change and not missing the crap I used to eat (although walking pass KFC didn't help!).

If I do go tomorrow its legs.

[oldbanger]

ASA569 said:

That's not going to be easy You have my full admiration for what you cope with

Thanks. I'm dreading the scales - it comes to something when carrots and hummus constitutes properly falling off the wagon. On a plus note, I find that keeping the two most difficult kids moving tends to stave off the worst of their behaviour, so I've had plenty of excuses to tour the local beaches.

[kiethton]

Got on the scales at the gym yesterday and I'm back up to 121!?!?

Admittedly haven't been exercising as much as I should have been and have been drinking too much...hope it comes back off again!

My biggest problem seems to be acting like a garbage disposal after dinner, finish off what the GF hasn't eaten, that and portion control :/

[J4CKO]

I am languishing in the 14.11 to 14.13 range.

Think the problem is the kids are all home, wife is off for the summer, they are all nocturnal, so I get to bed at say 11:30 and they all come up or roll back at between 1 and 4, so I get woken up and end up sleeping later, so dont cycle to work and there is crap food in, no routine.

However, another two weeks and they bugger off back, normality will return as will routine and going to get back on it properly, still exercising and being cautious but not enough to drop significant weight, went to the gym last night, am pushing myself a bit harder, my contract there finishes in a few weeks and have new, better gym with more gear lined up so hopefully that will give me more options and motivation.