Winding down before bed
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johnwilliams77 said:
This. Especially no eating after 6pm! WTF. Some people don't get home before 6. ZMA's are supposed to help with sleep also.
Oh I take ZMA, but I gather that's quality of sleep - not dozing off. Occasionally take GABA too if I need a really good sleep - that one is fun.BoRED S2upid said:
Why is your mind racing? What are you thinking about? I had insomnia for years and thought my life was perfectly fine I couldn't understand why I was still awake at 4am. There was an underlying issue.
Honestly no particular reason. Maybe about work or something at the gym. Nothing overly stressful, it's like it just decides to wake up and go hyper active when I get to bed! I don't ever remember being any different. 
Assess your exercise and diet before anything else.
I have a radio with a timer on it and if my brain is racing round, I find having it on very low volume gives me something to listen to so I'm not constantly thinking about stuff and keeping myself awake. I fall asleep with Smooth or Mellow Magic on most nights.
And no decaffeinated drinks after 5pm and ideally no sweet treats either.
And no decaffeinated drinks after 5pm and ideally no sweet treats either.
AlexC1981 said:
I have a radio with a timer on it and if my brain is racing round, I find having it on very low volume gives me something to listen to so I'm not constantly thinking about stuff and keeping myself awake. I fall asleep with Smooth or Mellow Magic on most nights.
And no decaffeinated drinks after 5pm and ideally no sweet treats either.
No decaffeinated? So just caffinated? And no decaffeinated drinks after 5pm and ideally no sweet treats either.
I used to suffer quite bad with this when I was in my late twenties.
I was a programmer at the time and used to work late into the night, so my brain just wouldnt switch off once in bed. I also used to wake up with solutions to problems I was facing with my work and then would get up and write the code.
Anyway, to say I was in a bad place would be an understatement.
The thing that helped me was to walk my dog late at night before bed. I found that also listening to classical music whislt on the walk helped.
By the time I got to bed, my head was not thinking or worrying about work.
I do realise you said that you weren't stressed, but sometimes we do not realise we are stressed. But regardless of that, maybe try a walk before bed.
I was a programmer at the time and used to work late into the night, so my brain just wouldnt switch off once in bed. I also used to wake up with solutions to problems I was facing with my work and then would get up and write the code.
Anyway, to say I was in a bad place would be an understatement.
The thing that helped me was to walk my dog late at night before bed. I found that also listening to classical music whislt on the walk helped.
By the time I got to bed, my head was not thinking or worrying about work.
I do realise you said that you weren't stressed, but sometimes we do not realise we are stressed. But regardless of that, maybe try a walk before bed.
johnwilliams77 said:
AlexC1981 said:
I have a radio with a timer on it and if my brain is racing round, I find having it on very low volume gives me something to listen to so I'm not constantly thinking about stuff and keeping myself awake. I fall asleep with Smooth or Mellow Magic on most nights.
And no decaffeinated drinks after 5pm and ideally no sweet treats either.
No decaffeinated? So just caffinated? And no decaffeinated drinks after 5pm and ideally no sweet treats either.
Probably worth mentioning that even decaffeinated tea contains some caffeine. I find red bush a nice alternative in the evening.trick3000tt said:
Bob Ross, The joy of painting.
Happy little trees and the most soothing voice of all time. All available on youtube. Never managed to watch an episode to the end yet.
Just looked him up and you are spot on Happy little trees and the most soothing voice of all time. All available on youtube. Never managed to watch an episode to the end yet.
I also just watched him turn some black blobs brushed on canvas into incredible looking mountains in three minutes. For the first time since I was at school I'm considering attempting to do a painting!
Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:
Calza said:
People never read the OP do they 
I take ZMA, I have f.lux (
Apologies, I evidently skim read your OP I take ZMA, I have f.lux (
OP saying "and in fairly good shape I think." doesn't mean the same thing as exercising hard 4 times a week,
Edited by hyphen on Saturday 22 July 16:15
You already lift, take ZMA and GABA and do the no blue light thing. All I could suggest is lift heavier and more intense? Add an intense cardio mid session 10*15s skipping intervals with a 45s rest.
Make your workouts intense, if you're not struggling by the end of a set you're not working hard enough, if you you're not working hard enough you're just treading water, push yourself every single session.
That said if you already do then I like audio books. A short 2h book can last me several month but without them I struggle to sleep.
Liam
Make your workouts intense, if you're not struggling by the end of a set you're not working hard enough, if you you're not working hard enough you're just treading water, push yourself every single session.
That said if you already do then I like audio books. A short 2h book can last me several month but without them I struggle to sleep.
Liam
dmitry said:
I've the same problem and found that listening to podcasts or radio shows helps. Only downside is in the morning you don't know how it ended
I use a podcast app with a sleep timer on a tablet, usually only hear the the first 10-15 minutes of the podcast. As the app has a playlist you can select a few short shows and with a bit of luck you'll hear a complete one.Edited by dmitry on Friday 21st July 21:50
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