Keto diet - anyone else?

Keto diet - anyone else?

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Kenny Powers

2,618 posts

128 months

Saturday 11th August 2018
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loughran said:
Has anyone found blurry eyesight to be a side effect of the Keto diet ?
No but without being alarmist or going into too much detail, changing vision acuity can often be a sign of blood glucose swings in either direction. In this instance it could potentially indicate a sharp drop from previous fairly consistent highs.

Someone on here noted recently that they noticed improved vision when starting keto and I offered a similar word of warning but I don’t recall any follow-up comments from the poster.

hairyben

8,516 posts

184 months

Saturday 11th August 2018
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Kenny Powers said:
This is wholly inline with my own personal experience. No one in my healthcare ‘team’ had ever mentioned ketosis to me during my first year with T2DM. I had only ever been given the official dietary advice of a low-fat healthy whole grain approach (the one that nearly killed me).

With that in my mind I was fully expecting to be widely ridiculed when revealing that the cause of my complete symptom reversal was the adoption of nutritional ketosis. Instead, the reaction was one of complete but unspoken approval. Both my nurse and GP seemed extremely impressed with my decision and my progress. But at the same time it was clear to me that neither were officially allowed to show approval of the “K” word.

No doubt it’s a taboo subject in medical school, an establishment which of course could never be influenced by industry science. Oh no sir biggrin
One thing I was not aware of until recently was just how much refusal to consider new ideas as our knowledge expands to suggest them there is in scientific circles, humans are so idiotic.

Kenny Powers

2,618 posts

128 months

Saturday 11th August 2018
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hairyben said:
One thing I was not aware of until recently was just how much refusal to consider new ideas as our knowledge expands to suggest them there is in scientific circles, humans are so idiotic.
From what I’ve been reading, the few scientists who stand up to be counted and begin heavily questioning the current dietary ideas, often find themselves out of a job or cut off from funding and never do anything worthwhile ever again. Someone pays for science, and the motives of those paying for it are often unknown or downright blatantly biased.

The real issue is that people tend to consider it solely as a noble endeavour that can never do wrong. Science is wonderful, but just like everything else in life, it’s corruptible and susceptible to influence. History is also littered with science being proven wrong, which is after all pretty much the definition of the pursuit, but people have a short memory and believe that whatever they’re currently being told is the inscrutable truth. Even if it appears to change every year laugh

loughran

2,754 posts

137 months

Saturday 11th August 2018
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Kenny Powers said:
No but without being alarmist or going into too much detail, changing vision acuity can often be a sign of blood glucose swings in either direction. In this instance it could potentially indicate a sharp drop from previous fairly consistent highs.

Someone on here noted recently that they noticed improved vision when starting keto and I offered a similar word of warning but I don’t recall any follow-up comments from the poster.
I've been on a keto diet for a couple of weeks now, I'm not overweight or diabetic but after reading this thread and info elsewhere I am interested to see how cutting out carbs affects my body. We seem to be assaulted by carbohydrates and sugar these days and I just fancied kicking against them.

I've had blurry vision very occasionally in the past and I've put it down to tiredness. With the keto the blurriness is usually when I'm tired but almost everyday, later in the evening.

I can't see how eating healthily would be detrimental to my eyesight and I'm thinking it's just a phase whilst my body adjusts.

Kenny Powers

2,618 posts

128 months

Saturday 11th August 2018
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That doesn’t sound normal at all. Perhaps book an appointment at the opticians? Your eyesight shouldn’t be varying like that if you are perfectly healthy?

loughran

2,754 posts

137 months

Saturday 11th August 2018
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Yes, healthy.

I'll book in next week.

Slyjoe

1,504 posts

212 months

Saturday 11th August 2018
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Kenny Powers said:
loughran said:
Has anyone found blurry eyesight to be a side effect of the Keto diet ?
No but without being alarmist or going into too much detail, changing vision acuity can often be a sign of blood glucose swings in either direction. In this instance it could potentially indicate a sharp drop from previous fairly consistent highs.

Someone on here noted recently that they noticed improved vision when starting keto and I offered a similar word of warning but I don’t recall any follow-up comments from the poster.
That was me, my eyesight is still better, I'm awaiting my appointment with the Quack for a full go-over, but I reckon I saved myself just in time by going Keto.


Kenny Powers

2,618 posts

128 months

Saturday 11th August 2018
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Cool. You should probably also get your eyes tested. Everyone should go every few years anyway, even without experiencing any anomalies. They’ll detect many eye health issues, which often show up long before you notice any loss of visual acuity smile

LordGrover

33,549 posts

213 months

Sunday 12th August 2018
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grumbledoak said:
yes I expect a lot of MSM scare stories about keto now it is becoming mainstream. And "carnivore" is getting some attention too. They will try to do what they did to Atkins, and saturated fat, and salt.
Does carnivorous diet allow dairy, esp. cheeses?

grumbledoak

31,545 posts

234 months

Sunday 12th August 2018
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LordGrover said:
Does carnivorous diet allow dairy, esp. cheeses?
Yeah, cheese and eggs are fine, but I am trying it "properly" for a month to get a feel for the baseline before adding other foods back in, like an elimination diet. So, beef and water, and I use a little butter and salt. I even gave up coffee, and I'm normally a double expresso guy!
https://meat.health/knowledge-base/carnivore-diet-...

Kenny Powers

2,618 posts

128 months

Sunday 12th August 2018
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Will you not struggle to remain in ketosis with so much protein, or is that not the goal?

grumbledoak

31,545 posts

234 months

Sunday 12th August 2018
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Kenny Powers said:
Will you not struggle to remain in ketosis with so much protein, or is that not the goal?
It's an experiment. I'm at most in mild ketosis at present. Will see what happens over the month.

Kenny Powers

2,618 posts

128 months

Sunday 12th August 2018
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Ah cool. I assume you are using fatty cuts of meat which will help. I’m fairly confident you’ll pretty quickly switch over to running on glucose again but it’ll be interesting to hear your progress thumbup

mangos

2,972 posts

182 months

Wednesday 15th August 2018
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Has anyone suffered after having eating carbs?

I have been restricting carb intake since January and generally manage to stick to it, but I visited family recently and they served up lasagne for dinner.

That night and the whole of the next day I had really bad stomach pain like never before and wondering if I have ended up giving myself issues somehow..

feef

5,206 posts

184 months

Wednesday 15th August 2018
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mangos said:
Has anyone suffered after having eating carbs?

I have been restricting carb intake since January and generally manage to stick to it, but I visited family recently and they served up lasagne for dinner.

That night and the whole of the next day I had really bad stomach pain like never before and wondering if I have ended up giving myself issues somehow..
If I have too much carbs, I will usually have wind the following morning. If it's something really sweet, I've even felt a little dizzy/odd about an hour later.

I've had that the last couple of days as I've been away on a course so have had little control over what I've been eating.

grumbledoak

31,545 posts

234 months

Wednesday 15th August 2018
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Yeah, I regret any high carb meal these days. I don't think my body wants them back.

Kenny Powers

2,618 posts

128 months

Wednesday 15th August 2018
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mangos said:
Has anyone suffered after having eating carbs?

I have been restricting carb intake since January and generally manage to stick to it, but I visited family recently and they served up lasagne for dinner.

That night and the whole of the next day I had really bad stomach pain like never before and wondering if I have ended up giving myself issues somehow..
I imagine this may be more to do with re-exposure to wheat, than carbohydrate per se. Although I suppose in the wider context the two can be considered pretty much one-in-the-same.

Cupramax

10,482 posts

253 months

Wednesday 15th August 2018
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grumbledoak said:
Yeah, I regret any high carb meal these days. I don't think my body wants them back.
I’ve get hideously uncomfortable bloating if I eat any bread or carb heavy food like a curry and naan now, takes a couple of days of back to low carbs before I get back to normal,

ATM

18,300 posts

220 months

Wednesday 15th August 2018
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Kenny Powers said:
I suspect that walnut oil pictured above is refined junk. Throw it away biggrin
Just bought some cold pressed British Rapeseed Oil from Aldi. Can I keep this or does it need to go in the bin as well?


LordGrover

33,549 posts

213 months

Wednesday 15th August 2018
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I suspect purists would bin it, and for what it costs they're probably right.
Won't do any harm, but try to buy the good stuff next time.