Keto diet - anyone else?
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Now that I’m in remission and my liver doesn’t pump out glucose for fun when I don’t eat, I feel ready to dabble in my first fast. Going to try a 48h water-only. Dinner on Sunday night and then won’t eat until Tuesday evening. Not expecting it to be difficult besides abstinence from coffee for two days.
LordGrover said:
His shows are always so darn long. I just don't have the time.
I'll sum it up for you , Carno diet is the latest fad diet and has no scientific evidence to support it , in fact lots of evidence to suggest its harmful Keto diet is fine and has extensive evidence to support it , but few people on this thread actually do anything even resembling the keto diet
liner33 said:
...but few people on this thread actually do anything even resembling the keto diet
Ahem 
ETA: to be fair, if people want to eat a carnivore diet then that’s fine by me. There’s also no evidence to support the currently accepted low fat dogma, but that doesn’t stop most of the western world insisting it’s good for them while it’s killing them.
Personally though I have my doubts about carno. All my research and personal experience tells me that protein is for building and repairing the body, and that it’s not really meant to be a primary energy source.
Edited by Kenny Powers on Friday 5th October 09:53
liner33 said:
I'll sum it up for you , Carno diet is the latest fad diet and has no scientific evidence to support it , in fact lots of evidence to suggest its harmful
Keto diet is fine and has extensive evidence to support it , but few people on this thread actually do anything even resembling the keto diet
Ta. Keto diet is fine and has extensive evidence to support it , but few people on this thread actually do anything even resembling the keto diet
Pretty much my understanding anyway.
It's been an interesting experiment for me, but I'm kinda glad I'm reaching the end of my four week trial. Short term it's made me feel great, but I have my doubts about long term viability. Back to regular LCHF/keto for me next week.
Kenny Powers said:
Now that I’m in remission and my liver doesn’t pump out glucose for fun when I don’t eat, I feel ready to dabble in my first fast. Going to try a 48h water-only. Dinner on Sunday night and then won’t eat until Tuesday evening. Not expecting it to be difficult besides abstinence from coffee for two days.
Pretty amazing. Not had a morsel since Sunday evening. Still exercising, still feel happy, alert, full of energy and not in the least bit hungry. Remarkable when you consider that most people can’t manage the gap between breakfast and lunch without developing severe depression and crippling hunger. Makes one wonder which type of metabolic state nature intended us to spend the majority of our lives...Still wasn’t even remotely hungry come dinner time on the Tuesday evening, but ate a delicious hearty meal anyway just for the flavours.
Overall my first intermittent 48h fast was a success, and I’ll definitely be doing it again on a fairly regular basis. Monthly at least. Very effective glucose/glycogen purge, and it even saves money. It’s also good to know that if I find myself in a situation such as a weekend away where it may be difficult to avoid carbs, that I can simply not eat, and be completely unaffected
Overall my first intermittent 48h fast was a success, and I’ll definitely be doing it again on a fairly regular basis. Monthly at least. Very effective glucose/glycogen purge, and it even saves money. It’s also good to know that if I find myself in a situation such as a weekend away where it may be difficult to avoid carbs, that I can simply not eat, and be completely unaffected
Ketosis suppresses hunger so you should never get hungry, that's why diets for weight loss that promote ketosis are more sustainable than those that don't, we wouldn't have survived as a species if everytime food was scarce we went out of our minds with hunger
I fast from 6pm to 10am daily and from 6pm to 12pm twice a week, just water outside of those hours.
I fast from 6pm to 10am daily and from 6pm to 12pm twice a week, just water outside of those hours.
i have been eating lunch only for the past few days and also do not feel hungry. in fact i still feel a little bloated, 24hrs after i last ate.
12kg down since i started. weight loss is slowing but partly due to not being able to exercise due to a bad fall [sprained wrist and bruised back/legs]. also need to look at protein levels given the advice on recent pages. overall happy with the progress and sustainability of keto. its become habit and not much of a hardship tbh.
12kg down since i started. weight loss is slowing but partly due to not being able to exercise due to a bad fall [sprained wrist and bruised back/legs]. also need to look at protein levels given the advice on recent pages. overall happy with the progress and sustainability of keto. its become habit and not much of a hardship tbh.
Yeah protein will stall weight loss once you reach a certain point and consuming too much. In theory lack of exercise should just reduce your appetite even further...presuming you’re doing everything else correctly.
Trust me when I keep banging on about it. Protein is the missing piece of the puzzle that most people miss.
Trust me when I keep banging on about it. Protein is the missing piece of the puzzle that most people miss.
liner33 said:
Kenny Powers said:
. Protein is the missing piece of the puzzle that most people miss.
As is calories, as this thread has proved people take bits and pieces from the plan and ignore what they don't fancy doing and then wonder why its not working for them I eat as much as I like without counting calories but find my appetite ensures that “as much as I like” is just the right amount. I roll zero carb (besides green veg), 50-60g protein, and the rest in fat to satiety. I find this keeps my weight at exactly 63.5kg regardless of exercise.
Two things to note though. Firstly I’m not trying to lose weight, as I’m already at my biological optimum. Secondly, a lot of people think they’re in ketosis but are actually still running on glucose, and so their appetite is not so perfectly tuned as it needs to be in order to prevent overeating.
Two things to note though. Firstly I’m not trying to lose weight, as I’m already at my biological optimum. Secondly, a lot of people think they’re in ketosis but are actually still running on glucose, and so their appetite is not so perfectly tuned as it needs to be in order to prevent overeating.
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