Keto diet - anyone else?

Keto diet - anyone else?

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Tiggsy

10,261 posts

253 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2019
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Regarding cholesterol - mine improved (do full blood work up every 6 months) after strict keto for 6 months. That was a LOT of eggs (although not much bacon as I avoid most processed meat)

Lemming Train

5,567 posts

73 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2019
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Yes, I pour some of it back over the meat and eat it, but there are limits! Bacon and fatty pork belly produces nearly enough excess to swim in and that's way too much to pour onto your plate. yuck I've been pouring the excess into old coffee jars, freezing them, then remembering to put them in the outside bin on collection day before they've defrosted. Missus has said to save it then make fat bombs for the birds but I have enough problems cleaning bird crap off my car as it is without encouraging even more of the blighters. grumpy

I'm not a fan of tinned fish in spring water or brine, instead preferring it in olive oil. I used to just mash it into the oil and eat it but it's too much and makes it sickly. Oil doesn't freeze very well so it's either going down the sink with boiling water or getting soaked up with kitchen roll and binned.

Badda

2,686 posts

83 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2019
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https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sd...

Any thoughts on this? Appreciate it’s VERY unscientific but has anyone here been keto for >22weeks and had their blood tested re Hb1Ac?

grumbledoak

31,566 posts

234 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2019
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That link is not to any particular article.

Yes. And yes.

Tiggsy

10,261 posts

253 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2019
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grumbledoak said:
That link is not to any particular article.

Yes. And yes.
Same here

mikal83

5,340 posts

253 months

Friday 6th September 2019
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1/2 way thru week 1 and doing OK. Had my 1st tomtit in 3 days, wasnt a lot! Think I'm eating too much cheese, even thou its delish of course BUT breakfast today was 2 rashers and a fried egg, yum. I've also noticed that the portion sizes with DD compared to what I usually eat are 25% smaller.

Tiggsy

10,261 posts

253 months

Friday 6th September 2019
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mikal83 said:
1/2 way thru week 1 and doing OK. Had my 1st tomtit in 3 days, wasnt a lot! Think I'm eating too much cheese, even thou its delish of course BUT breakfast today was 2 rashers and a fried egg, yum. I've also noticed that the portion sizes with DD compared to what I usually eat are 25% smaller.
The majority of bowel issues people have on keto are from what they eat (rarley what they avoid - unless it's water/electoyltes) People go on about fibre and veg, etc but if you are eating lots of chesse/nuts/etc ..... good luck on staying regular!

grumbledoak

31,566 posts

234 months

Friday 6th September 2019
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I didn't realize what a tomtit was.

A diet high in fat normally makes things 'easy' that way. Less cellulose means less to come out - meat, eggs, cheese all get completely digested in the stomach.

Constipation is normally dehydration.

Kenny Powers

2,618 posts

128 months

Friday 6th September 2019
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grumbledoak said:
I didn't realize what a tomtit was.

A diet high in fat normally makes things 'easy' that way. Less cellulose means less to come out - meat, eggs, cheese all get completely digested in the stomach.

Constipation is normally dehydration.
Amen to that. I plop out a couple of beautiful pebbles every few days and get through so little toilet paper that I sometimes put a sheet back on the roll. That’s not constipation, it’s just less waste.

Lemming Train

5,567 posts

73 months

Friday 6th September 2019
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Grumbleoak right again unsurprisingly. I can stuff myself with meat til I'm nearly busting but it seems to completely disappear! Eating carbs it's like your body rejects it as it goes straight through your system and you spend half your life stting it all out down the pan! eek

grumbledoak said:
A diet high in fat normally makes things 'easy' that way. Less cellulose means less to come out - meat, eggs, cheese all get completely digested in the stomach.

mikal83

5,340 posts

253 months

Friday 6th September 2019
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having a zero carb, zero sugar ish Rum n coke as England go down the crapper.

Phil.

4,813 posts

251 months

Sunday 8th September 2019
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For those interested in Vegan Keto (there are a few on here), I’ve just picked up this book. It’s full of good ideas, and they are easy to make:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07R181NW8/ref=dp-kind...




mikal83

5,340 posts

253 months

Sunday 8th September 2019
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Is almond flour a decent alt to real flour? I do miss my rhubarb crumble on a sunday

grumbledoak

31,566 posts

234 months

Sunday 8th September 2019
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mikal83 said:
Is almond flour a decent alt to real flour? I do miss my rhubarb crumble on a sunday
I've used it in the Fat Head Pizza recipe. It will probably work on a crumble.

I'm not sure how you'll make a rhubarb crumble without sugar that doesn't purse your whole head, mind. lol.

Lemming Train

5,567 posts

73 months

Sunday 8th September 2019
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mikal83 said:
Is almond flour a decent alt to real flour? I do miss my rhubarb crumble on a sunday
Sounds like you're suffering with sugar withdrawal to me - understandable as you only started a few days ago. Eat more meat, fish and eggs to get your satiety level high and your hunger level low then you won't be craving for sugary desserts. There are a couple of keto rhubarb crumble recipes but they use a lot of erythritol which is a natural sweetener and not particularly nice.

Edited by Lemming Train on Sunday 8th September 14:53

NoVetec

9,967 posts

174 months

Sunday 8th September 2019
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Erythritol makes me st like I've had a madras, just without the chilli endorphins.

You can have a fully-fledged crumble here and there, or any carby food/meal if you want, mikal, but after a while of adjustment. However a lot of people find that even mentally they aren't overly bothered about things like desserts once they've been keto for a month or two.

Lemming Train

5,567 posts

73 months

Sunday 8th September 2019
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That's it ^. Once you've become fat adapted it all becomes much easier to sustain as you don't get the sugar cravings. The middle ground before that happens can be torture if you've got a sweet tooth and are used to shovelling in cake, biscuits, beer.

Keep your fridge stocked up with low-carb snacks that you can nibble at when you get sugar cravings. They don't need to be sweet, you just need to eat anything to satisfy your hunger. Packs of cooked meats are good for this : cooked ham/chicken/turkey. Corned beef also very filling. Pepperami, spicy sausage snacks, cheese snacks all good. For sweet stuff, have a big tub of natural Greek yogurt in the fridge (the proper expensive stuff, not the Greek-style ones which are packed with carbs/sweeteners) and get a pack of raspberries/blackberries to chuck in, maybe even strawberries at a push but don't go crazy with strawberries as the carbs will quickly mount up, but all these are infinitely better for sticking to the keto script than making crumbles to satisfy your cravings.

mikal83

5,340 posts

253 months

Sunday 8th September 2019
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Lemming Train said:
mikal83 said:
Is almond flour a decent alt to real flour? I do miss my rhubarb crumble on a sunday
Sounds like you're suffering with sugar withdrawal to me - understandable as you only started a few days ago. Eat more meat, fish and eggs to get your satiety level high and your hunger level low then you won't be craving for sugary desserts. There are a couple of keto rhubarb crumble recipes but they use a lot of erythritol which is a natural sweetener and not particularly nice.

Edited by Lemming Train on Sunday 8th September 14:53
No I hardly eat sugar anyway. But I have a large veg patch and crumble is our fave, especially when it starts to get chilly. Also just dug up our spuds.........boo hoo.

Lemming Train

5,567 posts

73 months

Sunday 8th September 2019
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But how do you make the rhubarb crumble? Rhubarb is quite bitter on its own and usually gets a lot of sugar added to it when cooking it . Rhubarb itself is very low in carbs so if you can eat it as it is, crack on, there are keto friendly crumble recipes to be found online, but if you need to add some sort of sugar to sweeten up the taste you're best avoiding it.

mikal83

5,340 posts

253 months

Sunday 8th September 2019
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Lemming Train said:
But how do you make the rhubarb crumble? Rhubarb is quite bitter on its own and usually gets a lot of sugar added to it when cooking it . Rhubarb itself is very low in carbs so if you can eat it as it is, crack on, there are keto friendly crumble recipes to be found online, but if you need to add some sort of sugar to sweeten up the taste you're best avoiding it.
Where did I say that I didnt put sugar on rhubarb crumble?