Keto diet - anyone else?
Discussion
I think LCHF is mostly placebo and unsustainable for most people.
It’s calorie restriction by any other name.
If one cuts out junk food they’ll feel better.
It’s not calorie restriction by another name. If you replace sugar and refined carbs for fats, proteins and green veg your cravings go away. If I’m eating 4000 calories of s
te a day and cut that down to 1800 calories of ste a day my blood sugar will still be yo-yoing all over the place and my cravings along with my hunger will be hard, if not impossible to control.
If you go lfhc your cravings disappear as does most of your hunger. Even if you fall off the wagon and drop out of ketosis you have a much better understanding of how your food is the cause of cravings, not real hunger.
It’s calorie restriction by any other name.
If one cuts out junk food they’ll feel better.
It’s not calorie restriction by another name. If you replace sugar and refined carbs for fats, proteins and green veg your cravings go away. If I’m eating 4000 calories of s
te a day and cut that down to 1800 calories of ste a day my blood sugar will still be yo-yoing all over the place and my cravings along with my hunger will be hard, if not impossible to control.If you go lfhc your cravings disappear as does most of your hunger. Even if you fall off the wagon and drop out of ketosis you have a much better understanding of how your food is the cause of cravings, not real hunger.
Crumpet said:
In a hungry, need-something-sweet moment I’ve just raided the kitchen and made something really rather nice; salted caramel and pecan cheesecake!
Can’t remember the measurements as I went by eye but it was roughly;
75ml whipping cream
30g cream cheese
1 scoop of salted caramel GNC protein powder
Handful of pecans
20g butter
Blitz the pecans until roughly chopped in a blender. Melt the butter and combine the two. Put in the bottom of two ramekins and chill.
Whisk the cream, cheese and protein powder to make the topping. Put it on the base and chill. Grate some 90% dark chocolate on top. Makes two portions and the macros work out at 80%/15%/5% - bang on for Keto with 4g net carbs, 12g protein and about 30g fat.
Sounds smashing! Might have to acquire some decent protein powder, only some non keto vanilla currently. Can’t remember the measurements as I went by eye but it was roughly;
75ml whipping cream
30g cream cheese
1 scoop of salted caramel GNC protein powder
Handful of pecans
20g butter
Blitz the pecans until roughly chopped in a blender. Melt the butter and combine the two. Put in the bottom of two ramekins and chill.
Whisk the cream, cheese and protein powder to make the topping. Put it on the base and chill. Grate some 90% dark chocolate on top. Makes two portions and the macros work out at 80%/15%/5% - bang on for Keto with 4g net carbs, 12g protein and about 30g fat.
Is there a high street shop that sells a good amount of keto stuff? Without raping on price?
I thought I might give this a try although I think it's unlikely that I will be as diligent in sticking to the regime as some
I can't really think that I knowingly have massive sugar cravings, But like someone posted in the thread ages ago, I have zero self control when cakes, chocolate and biscuits are around.
Set up MyFitnessPal, think it will help me see what works and what doesn't and help with the challenge of a job that sees me travel a fair bit and be on customer sites with different facilities available
I'm 48, 6ft 4 and 17 stone and 9 pounds on the bathroom scales as of yesterday morning, target is to be sub 16 stone when I go on holiday in August. Hopefully then, Greenpeace won't turn up and try and roll me back into the sea. After that who knows?
I can't really think that I knowingly have massive sugar cravings, But like someone posted in the thread ages ago, I have zero self control when cakes, chocolate and biscuits are around.
Set up MyFitnessPal, think it will help me see what works and what doesn't and help with the challenge of a job that sees me travel a fair bit and be on customer sites with different facilities available
I'm 48, 6ft 4 and 17 stone and 9 pounds on the bathroom scales as of yesterday morning, target is to be sub 16 stone when I go on holiday in August. Hopefully then, Greenpeace won't turn up and try and roll me back into the sea. After that who knows?
mfmman said:
I can't really think that I knowingly have massive sugar cravings, But like someone posted in the thread ages ago, I have zero self control when cakes, chocolate and biscuits are around.
Set up MyFitnessPal, think it will help me see what works and what doesn't and help with the challenge of a job that sees me travel a fair bit and be on customer sites with different facilities available
I'm 48, 6ft 4 and 17 stone and 9 pounds on the bathroom scales as of yesterday morning, target is to be sub 16 stone when I go on holiday in August. Hopefully then, Greenpeace won't turn up and try and roll me back into the sea. After that who knows?
I'm a sugar fiend and absolutely love certain products, so I tend to not buy them. MFP helps me a lot, it's been habitual now for years.Set up MyFitnessPal, think it will help me see what works and what doesn't and help with the challenge of a job that sees me travel a fair bit and be on customer sites with different facilities available
I'm 48, 6ft 4 and 17 stone and 9 pounds on the bathroom scales as of yesterday morning, target is to be sub 16 stone when I go on holiday in August. Hopefully then, Greenpeace won't turn up and try and roll me back into the sea. After that who knows?
Yiur goals are quite reasonable and a nice easy going regimen should get you there by august.
LordGrover said:
Anyone read Mark Sisson's latest; The Keto Reset Diet?
I haven't. I was most impressed with Mark on Joe's show. He himself has around 150g of carbs a day, which seems doable for life.
Greys0n said:
I think LCHF is mostly placebo and unsustainable for most people.
It’s calorie restriction by any other name.
If one cuts out junk food they’ll feel better.
It’s not calorie restriction by another name. If you replace sugar and refined carbs for fats, proteins and green veg your cravings go away. If I’m eating 4000 calories of ste a day and cut that down to 1800 calories of ste a day my blood sugar will still be yo-yoing all over the place and my cravings along with my hunger will be hard, if not impossible to control.
If you go lfhc your cravings disappear as does most of your hunger. Even if you fall off the wagon and drop out of ketosis you have a much better understanding of how your food is the cause of cravings, not real hunger.
For the benefit of anyone reading this thread, FWIW I couldn’t disagree more with this comment.It’s calorie restriction by any other name.
If one cuts out junk food they’ll feel better.
It’s not calorie restriction by another name. If you replace sugar and refined carbs for fats, proteins and green veg your cravings go away. If I’m eating 4000 calories of s
te a day and cut that down to 1800 calories of ste a day my blood sugar will still be yo-yoing all over the place and my cravings along with my hunger will be hard, if not impossible to control.If you go lfhc your cravings disappear as does most of your hunger. Even if you fall off the wagon and drop out of ketosis you have a much better understanding of how your food is the cause of cravings, not real hunger.
Oh and the keto reset book is great.
PBDirector said:
Greys0n said:
I think LCHF is mostly placebo and unsustainable for most people.
It’s calorie restriction by any other name.
If one cuts out junk food they’ll feel better.
It’s not calorie restriction by another name. If you replace sugar and refined carbs for fats, proteins and green veg your cravings go away. If I’m eating 4000 calories of ste a day and cut that down to 1800 calories of ste a day my blood sugar will still be yo-yoing all over the place and my cravings along with my hunger will be hard, if not impossible to control.
If you go lfhc your cravings disappear as does most of your hunger. Even if you fall off the wagon and drop out of ketosis you have a much better understanding of how your food is the cause of cravings, not real hunger.
For the benefit of anyone reading this thread, FWIW I couldn’t disagree more with this comment.It’s calorie restriction by any other name.
If one cuts out junk food they’ll feel better.
It’s not calorie restriction by another name. If you replace sugar and refined carbs for fats, proteins and green veg your cravings go away. If I’m eating 4000 calories of s
te a day and cut that down to 1800 calories of ste a day my blood sugar will still be yo-yoing all over the place and my cravings along with my hunger will be hard, if not impossible to control.If you go lfhc your cravings disappear as does most of your hunger. Even if you fall off the wagon and drop out of ketosis you have a much better understanding of how your food is the cause of cravings, not real hunger.
Oh and the keto reset book is great.
Mrs hairy for instance is intolerant to gluten and if she eats a small amount will get very sick, even though to most people it is harmless. I've been doing a fairly laid back form of low carb for over a year and have lost 4 stone.
Next week will be by 3-month anniversary of starting Keto. I started on January 8th and I know it sounds really cheesy but when I think back to what I used to eat and drink...I almost don't recognise that person. I know, I sound weird.
I was 18st 12lbs when I started and on this morning's weigh-in I was 16st 8lbs. I'm 41, and that's probably as light as I've been since mid 20's.
The comments I've had from friends and family have been a 50/50 mixture of "You look really well" and "You look ill - too skinny"
I haven't really got a goal in terms of numbers, but I set out to be in better shape in 2018 (42) in 1998 (aged 22).
I've been running 5km 3 times a week since December 2017 (C25k programme is brilliant) and really enjoying it. I think I'm going to change to a Tue/Thu weights programme and do a 10km run every Sunday morning and a 5km during the week if I can find time. Seems like a manageable plan.
It'll be interesting to see how I perform with the weights. I used to do P90x fairly regularly so I'll have to dig out my history to see where I was at.
If anyone is lurking on this thread and wanting to shifting some weight just give this a go. You've got to go all-in though. Once you get used to it, it's actually really easy.
I was 18st 12lbs when I started and on this morning's weigh-in I was 16st 8lbs. I'm 41, and that's probably as light as I've been since mid 20's.
The comments I've had from friends and family have been a 50/50 mixture of "You look really well" and "You look ill - too skinny"
I haven't really got a goal in terms of numbers, but I set out to be in better shape in 2018 (42) in 1998 (aged 22).I've been running 5km 3 times a week since December 2017 (C25k programme is brilliant) and really enjoying it. I think I'm going to change to a Tue/Thu weights programme and do a 10km run every Sunday morning and a 5km during the week if I can find time. Seems like a manageable plan.
It'll be interesting to see how I perform with the weights. I used to do P90x fairly regularly so I'll have to dig out my history to see where I was at.
If anyone is lurking on this thread and wanting to shifting some weight just give this a go. You've got to go all-in though. Once you get used to it, it's actually really easy.
Mini update
I'm away on a city break from Friday till Tuesday. I've been hammering the breakfast buffet in the hotel. Eggs, bacon, ham and cheese. The added cubes of butter got me funny looks. Then I'm skipping lunch and having steak only dinners. Sparkling water and some black coffee so zero booze. I am starting to feel less hungry although how can you not smash the breakfast buffet at the hotel - its just expected.
I'm away on a city break from Friday till Tuesday. I've been hammering the breakfast buffet in the hotel. Eggs, bacon, ham and cheese. The added cubes of butter got me funny looks. Then I'm skipping lunch and having steak only dinners. Sparkling water and some black coffee so zero booze. I am starting to feel less hungry although how can you not smash the breakfast buffet at the hotel - its just expected.
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