Keto diet - anyone else?

[LordGrover]

Youbecient said:

I like plain almonds actually.. what's so bad about them?

I don't have any excess weight but I would like to decrease the fat percentage and also get rid of break out on my face that appear way too often for someone far over 20. I've been working on cutting sugar and milk and thought my meals were quite balanced. I just started counting calories and also the protein-fat-carbs distribution. And it looks like my carbs intake is around 70% of daily meals! Then I have around 20% of proteins and just under 10% of fats. I don't know.. is it not OK? Should I cut down rice?

You say you're consuming less that 10% fat, and you want to reduce further? And you want to reduce carbs?
May be worth reading a few websites or books to get an understanding of a healthful diet.
Most will claim either high carb (or high fat) is best (polar opposites ), but you'll find very few recommending high protein which is what you'd end up with.
This topic is about ketogenic diet, which is high fat.

[ATM]

[feef]

Okay, I’ve been pretty good in recent weeks and have found substitutes for many things. Cauliflower rice instead of ‘rice’, bean sprouts instead of noodles, I’ve even experimented with roasted cheddar ‘crisp’ substitutes with some success and a cream/cheese/berry mix for desert.

However, I’ve yet to find a decent substitute for a pizza or a carbonara which is the one pasta dish that I can eat all day.

Anyone got any suggestions for replacements for those sorts of things, or do you just have an ‘off’ meal if you find yourself fancying something like that?

[Halb]

Watched this earlier today and thought if this thread.

Keto Diet vs Atkins Diet: Is There Actually a Difference?

https://youtu.be/RJRUoKMg1MQ

[grumbledoak]

feef said:

However, I’ve yet to find a decent substitute for a pizza or a carbonara which is the one pasta dish that I can eat all day.

Anyone got any suggestions for replacements for those sorts of things, or do you just have an ‘off’ meal if you find yourself fancying something like that?

I cannot help with pizza, but earlier in the thread

TartanPaint said:

Oh duuuuuude, have I got a treat for you!!

Buy a spiraliser, and make carbonara with courgette spaghetti (google it). Spiralise the courgette, microwave for just a couple of minutes until warm but not soft, then squeeze the water out and add it to your other ingredients, just like you'd do with the cooked pasta. The more water you can get out first, and the quicker you can get it stirred together and on the plate, the better (less runny) it will be.

I swear, I prefer it to "real" carbonara.

I call it "Onara". Carbonara without the carb.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/3-Blade-Vegetable-Spirali...

I make it with sliced sweetheart cabbage now. Slice the cabbage, put cubed pancetta + a little butter in saucepan, brown, then add and saute the cabbage, add grated grano padano and two egg yolks. Done.

Edited by grumbledoak on Tuesday 24th April 18:59

[liner33]

That guy does do some good videos but sometimes sprinkled with inaccuracies.

That's a good one though and it's often hard to sort the wheat from the chaff .

Perhaps there should be some separate threads for Atkins people. Carnivores and Vegas

[bmwmike]

LordGrover said:

Youbecient said:

I like plain almonds actually.. what's so bad about them?

I don't have any excess weight but I would like to decrease the fat percentage and also get rid of break out on my face that appear way too often for someone far over 20. I've been working on cutting sugar and milk and thought my meals were quite balanced. I just started counting calories and also the protein-fat-carbs distribution. And it looks like my carbs intake is around 70% of daily meals! Then I have around 20% of proteins and just under 10% of fats. I don't know.. is it not OK? Should I cut down rice?

You say you're consuming less that 10% fat, and you want to reduce further? And you want to reduce carbs?
May be worth reading a few websites or books to get an understanding of a healthful diet.
Most will claim either high carb (or high fat) is best (polar opposites ), but you'll find very few recommending high protein which is what you'd end up with.
This topic is about ketogenic diet, which is high fat.

Why is that? I did a very high protein diet last year, almost eating just meat and eggs and I lost two stone and felt great. Kept it up for about six months properly but carbs crept back in over Christmas and I'm finding it hard to drop them out fully again.

[Shinobi]

feef said:

Okay, I’ve been pretty good in recent weeks and have found substitutes for many things. Cauliflower rice instead of ‘rice’, bean sprouts instead of noodles, I’ve even experimented with roasted cheddar ‘crisp’ substitutes with some success and a cream/cheese/berry mix for desert.

However, I’ve yet to find a decent substitute for a pizza or a carbonara which is the one pasta dish that I can eat all day.

Anyone got any suggestions for replacements for those sorts of things, or do you just have an ‘off’ meal if you find yourself fancying something like that?

Chicken pizza or fathead dough. Both are amazing.

[TartanPaint]

As above, https://www.dietdoctor.com/recipes/fat-head-pizza

If anyone has any suggestions for drinks, that's where I really struggle. My diet coke intake is now ridiculous and I need some ideas (other than water).

[Kenny Powers]

bmwmike said:

Why is that? I did a very high protein diet last year, almost eating just meat and eggs and I lost two stone and felt great. Kept it up for about six months properly but carbs crept back in over Christmas and I'm finding it hard to drop them out fully again.

Eggs are high in fat, so you would have been getting a lot of your energy from those.

[ATM]

TartanPaint said:

I need some ideas (other than water).

All water?

I quite like some of the fizzy waters for a change - can't remember the Italian one's name now. Also they contain some salt which is a bonus. At the pub I've been ordering soda with some real limes in. But dont tell the carb police about the limes. Most pubs dont charge for soda which is a bit embarrassing.

[oldbanger]

liner33 said:

It was eating meat that allowed us to become the apes we are, without that we would be as smart as chimpanzees (Who eat some meat) , the protein allowed us to grow our brains

Fat.

The brain is 60% fat

[liner33]

oldbanger said:

Fat.

The brain is 60% fat

You need protein to DEVELOP the brain not construct one

[liner33]

ATM said:

All water?

I quite like some of the fizzy waters for a change - can't remember the Italian one's name now. Also they contain some salt which is a bonus. At the pub I've been ordering soda with some real limes in. But dont tell the carb police about the limes. Most pubs dont charge for soda which is a bit embarrassing.

San Pellegrino ? I drink this but at £1p bottle only sparingly

[feef]

liner33 said:

ATM said:

All water?

I quite like some of the fizzy waters for a change - can't remember the Italian one's name now. Also they contain some salt which is a bonus. At the pub I've been ordering soda with some real limes in. But dont tell the carb police about the limes. Most pubs dont charge for soda which is a bit embarrassing.

San Pellegrino ? I drink this but at £1p bottle only sparingly

Tesco do their budget sparkling water at 17p for 2 litres which is fine for at home. They have a good deal on Badoit, which I prefer over San Pellegrino and the like at , 2 x 1L bottles for £1.50

Their own-brand Ashbeck comes in 500ml bottles at 38p a pop.

I'm also keen on the french style 'sirop' concentrate, especially the lemon ones. Ocado/Waitrose do them from time to time, and I've come across them in Lidl and Aldi too. Just need to make sure they are the sugar free ones.

[ATM]

liner33 said:

ATM said:

All water?

I quite like some of the fizzy waters for a change - can't remember the Italian one's name now. Also they contain some salt which is a bonus. At the pub I've been ordering soda with some real limes in. But dont tell the carb police about the limes. Most pubs dont charge for soda which is a bit embarrassing.

San Pellegrino ? I drink this but at £1p bottle only sparingly

That's the rascal

[tactical lizard]

Been on the keto diet for nearly 4 weeks.

I definitely feel more energetic.

Weight loss is the odd one, I look in the mirror and don't see much difference but I have had to tighten my belt and start tying up jogging bottoms etc so it must be working!

I'm going to stick with it mainly for how good I feel at the moment.

[mangos]

feef said:

Okay, I’ve been pretty good in recent weeks and have found substitutes for many things. Cauliflower rice instead of ‘rice’, bean sprouts instead of noodles, I’ve even experimented with roasted cheddar ‘crisp’ substitutes with some success and a cream/cheese/berry mix for desert.

However, I’ve yet to find a decent substitute for a pizza or a carbonara which is the one pasta dish that I can eat all day.

Anyone got any suggestions for replacements for those sorts of things, or do you just have an ‘off’ meal if you find yourself fancying something like that?

I've seen elsewhere 'Cloud Bread' being suggested as a carb free alternative you can make yourself and use as pizza base or bap for a burger.

I haven't tried it myself yet as I just avoid carbs rather than doing swaps, but form people I know who have made it, they say it is a suitable alternative and takes the craving away.

I every so often have carb days where I dont worry about my consumption and might have a load of beer and a pizza. I find it gives me a boost, especially if the losses are starting to slow down when being strict LCHF

[Baron von Teuchter]

tactical lizard said:

Been on the keto diet for nearly 4 weeks.

I definitely feel more energetic.

Weight loss is the odd one, I look in the mirror and don't see much difference but I have had to tighten my belt and start tying up jogging bottoms etc so it must be working!

I'm going to stick with it mainly for how good I feel at the moment.

Exactly the same here. I've been doing it for 2 weeks and lost 10lb (started at 16 stone). Trousers noticeably looser! Loads of energy, feel alert etc etc

1800 cal, 30g carbs, 140g protein, 120g fat. Most days I only hit 20 or 25g of carbs and now and again i'll creep up to 2000cal but it's still a defecit i suppose.

Eating lots of fish, lots of spinach, lots of eggs, drinking loads of water and coffee.

I miss beer. I love gin but my word, i miss beer.

[Kenny Powers]

If you’re drinking G&T then make sure it’s diet tonic water. You’d think it was obvious, but it’s surprising how many people don’t realise that regular tonic water is full of sugar