Keto diet - anyone else?
Discussion
Halb said:
Yeah, as a visual guide I think it's quite misleading for the vast majority of people who think in terms of carbs is 'sugar' (meaning table sugar).
My memory of it was that they explained it as glucose, but perhaps I understood it as that because that’s what I knew they meant. For clarity, the idea was that the potato redults in as much glucose being dumped into your bloodstream as you would get from those sugar cubes. Misleading if you don’t like the reality perhaps. Otherwise arguably a necessary eye opener for those who don’t know. That’s a matter of perspective maybe, but the glycemic load of the potato is not
Edited by Kenny Powers on Saturday 16th June 16:14
swerni said:
The reality is, no one ever got obesce eating jacket potato’s.
No-one ever got obese eating Fab ice lollies either. So what?The point is that everyone has been comprehensively mis-educated about what is and what is not healthy food for decades. The baked potato was an example.
swerni said:
The reality is, no one ever got obesce eating jacket potato’s.
I’d be more concerned with eating processed meat, which is a group one carcinogen, rather than some spuds .
No. The reality is that a baked potato will dump as much glucose into your bloodstream as 19 sugar cubes. That is the point you chose to disagree with. Whether or not you care is your choice, but don’t confuse opinion with “reality”.I’d be more concerned with eating processed meat, which is a group one carcinogen, rather than some spuds .
Edited by swerni on Saturday 16th June 16:37
ETA: interestingly, since you mentioned it, cancer cells feed off glucose. So if you do get cancer from eating the same foods we ate for 3 million years, you’d best not feed it with your non-fattening carbohydrates. But being a scientist, you already knew that. Right?
Edited by Kenny Powers on Saturday 16th June 17:35
I dunno man, I got pretty f
kin fat by eating too many tatties, slices of bread and bowls of rice or pasta. 
I’m eating far fewer calories on Keto than I was, but am rarely “hungry”. I suspect if I could get by on 1800 Cals per day of my old diet i’d lose weight too but it would be difficult. And I’d probably feel like st.
kin fat by eating too many tatties, slices of bread and bowls of rice or pasta. I’m eating far fewer calories on Keto than I was, but am rarely “hungry”. I suspect if I could get by on 1800 Cals per day of my old diet i’d lose weight too but it would be difficult. And I’d probably feel like s
t.swerni said:
They still are, this thread only goes to show the brain washing continues.
The pendulum will continue to swing back and forth, what can't be denied as that a balanced diet is the best solution.
Please explain what a balanced diet is. Is it 33% of each macronutrient? Is it “everything in moderation”?The pendulum will continue to swing back and forth, what can't be denied as that a balanced diet is the best solution.
Baron von Teuchter said:
I dunno man, I got pretty fkin fat by eating too many tatties, slices of bread and bowls of rice or pasta.
I’m eating far fewer calories on Keto than I was, but am rarely “hungry”. I suspect if I could get by on 1800 Cals per day of my old diet i’d lose weight too but it would be difficult. And I’d probably feel like st.
I don’t experience hunger anymore. More of “need for sustenance”. A very mild desire for tasty food, that can easily take 24 hours to arise. Definitely not the crippling hunger that everyone else gets if they miss lunch kin fat by eating too many tatties, slices of bread and bowls of rice or pasta. I’m eating far fewer calories on Keto than I was, but am rarely “hungry”. I suspect if I could get by on 1800 Cals per day of my old diet i’d lose weight too but it would be difficult. And I’d probably feel like s
t.
Kenny Powers said:
Halb said:
Yeah, as a visual guide I think it's quite misleading for the vast majority of people who think in terms of carbs is 'sugar' (meaning table sugar).
My memory of it was that they explained it as glucose, but perhaps I understood it as that because that’s what I knew they meant. For clarity, the idea was that the potato redults in as much glucose being dumped into your bloodstream as you would get from those sugar cubes. Misleading if you don’t like the reality perhaps. Otherwise arguably a necessary eye opener for those who don’t know. That’s a matter of perspective maybe, but the glycemic load of the potato is not
Edited by Kenny Powers on Saturday 16th June 16:14
https://www.livestrong.com/article/443116-starch-a...
swerni said:
I just said there wasn't the equivalent 19 cubes of sugar in a potato.
I think the premise of whole food diet is sound, but the whole food we have today, is very very different to even 50 year ago, let alone 200, several thousand or few million.
The link between cancer and processed meat is unarguable.
And you were right.I think the premise of whole food diet is sound, but the whole food we have today, is very very different to even 50 year ago, let alone 200, several thousand or few million.
The link between cancer and processed meat is unarguable.
There are a few vids on yt, and article on people following thr potaot diet, pretty crazy and I wouldn't but it worked for them and cured them of their issues. The guy who created jay and silent bob did it, he fixed his issues but went back ultimately to a less extreme version of his old diet I think.
Halb said:
Misleading by anyone who thinks that eating sugar and potatoes are the same, or the issues they cause. What happens when a person eats 14 cubes of sugar, or a potato, is not the same.
https://www.livestrong.com/article/443116-starch-a...
That’s a good link. Thanks, although I’m already well versed on the nutrient content of most foods. I guess my attachment to the “sugar” content of potatoes comes from being diabetic, and knowing first-hand that they do in fact result in a massive glucose dump.https://www.livestrong.com/article/443116-starch-a...
swerni said:
Good luck with the diet x
Ahh. The passive aggressive kiss. Nice For your interest I’m not on a “diet” in the context that you imply. I’m a 63kg diabetic and ketosis has put my condition into remission. Armed with that nugget of information, I’m sure you won’t resent my dietary choices
I think we should research more in this direction:
https://breaknutrition.com/omega-6-fatty-acids-alt...
Our Metabolic Syndrome diseases have all come about in the last hundred years. Anything we have a long history of eating is pretty much in the clear.
https://breaknutrition.com/omega-6-fatty-acids-alt...
Our Metabolic Syndrome diseases have all come about in the last hundred years. Anything we have a long history of eating is pretty much in the clear.
I think so.
In the videos I watch, crisco seems to have been spawned by the devil. Nasty stuff, and the other transfats that are in MAD>
The Okinawins and vegetarian adventists are both excellent studies. I've not tried an Okinawan sweet potato, but it made up 69% of their diet pre-1950. I try to have a sweet potato everyday or every other day at lest, skin still on.
Strange that they had less pickled vegetables.
In the videos I watch, crisco seems to have been spawned by the devil. Nasty stuff, and the other transfats that are in MAD>
The Okinawins and vegetarian adventists are both excellent studies. I've not tried an Okinawan sweet potato, but it made up 69% of their diet pre-1950. I try to have a sweet potato everyday or every other day at lest, skin still on.
Strange that they had less pickled vegetables.
swerni said:
To which?
Processed meat being a class one carcinogen?
It's a well established fact and widely reported.
It's widely reported that fat makes you fat and salt causes high blood pressureProcessed meat being a class one carcinogen?
It's a well established fact and widely reported.
Research and evidence has linked sugar to cancer and that low carbohydrate diets can help shrink cancer cells.
I'm much more interested in evidence from research rather than what is reported especially in publications like the Daily Mail.
Always interested in furthering my knowledge
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