Do you even supplement, bro'?

Do you even supplement, bro'?

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BRR

1,846 posts

173 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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Each morning I have a some greens powder thing from Bulk Powders mixed in with pineapple juice to wash down Wellman multi vit, vit D & iron tablets and 2 fish oil capsules. every now and then i'll have a protein shake after training if I'm not going to get chance to eat and will take an electrolyte tablet if I've sweated excessively

I've tried no end of supplements over the years and none of them have made too much of a difference other than HGH (obviously not an OTC 'Supplement') which I used to fix up some long standing tendon problems in my elbows which worked well, though it did take about 6 months so isn't cheap. Good quality cissus is also decent for some joint issues but it's probably due to its ability to calm inflammation as once I stop taking it the issues come back

Hoofy

76,410 posts

283 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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lemmingjames said:
Hoofy said:
Are you saying he's fat?

well hes not big boned thats for sure
biggrin

Hoofy

76,410 posts

283 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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chris watton said:
Hoofy said:
Are you saying he's fat?

yikes

No! hehe

I am saying he is geared
So now you're accusing him of steroid abuse when he states he doesn't use supplements?

smiffy180

6,018 posts

151 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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Slightly off topic; has anyone had their bloods done to see what deficiencies there are and what they should be taking?
It's something I plan to do when I've the money spare.

lemmingjames

7,462 posts

205 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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smiffy180 said:
Are you calling me fat?
well your arent resting the atlas stones on your 6-pack are you :P

lemmingjames

7,462 posts

205 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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smiffy180 said:
Slightly off topic; has anyone had their bloods done to see what deficiencies there are and what they should be taking?
It's something I plan to do when I've the money spare.
No but then would that not depend on what your diet is like, which in itself would need to be strict and not lax? Or do you mean the one where they say what you should/shouldnt eat?

smiffy180

6,018 posts

151 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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It's my winter coat to keep my gas bill down wink

lemmingjames said:
No but then would that not depend on what your diet is like, which in itself would need to be strict and not lax? Or do you mean the one where they say what you should/shouldnt eat?
There's 3 actually I fancy trying that all cross over onto each other.
Basically it tells you which foods you should be eating and what supplements you should be taking.
One is a live blood test (I think it was) where they can see how your red blood cells move freely, or not, and how to help it. Based in Halifax.
Ones a genetic profile which tells you some interesting stuff - Eddie Hall posted a company up recently on his Facebook page.
One is by Medichecks which is a full hormone screen and I believe tells you what you need to be taking.
Probably talking around £800 for all 3 but potentially 2 aren't needed.
The one in Halifax has me most intrigued and its closest one hah. It was on Dave Crosland's film - under construction

ORD

18,120 posts

128 months

Saturday 23rd September 2017
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Anyone working out hard probably needs at least a good multivitamin & high quality fish oil. A lot of supplements are rubbish.

I take:
Multivit & mineral
Glucosamine hydrochloride
Extra vitamin C (prevents soreness, it seems)
Extra selenium
Fish oil (filtered to remove all the mercury)

I also plan to start taking circumin again because it seemed to help with inflammation.

There's not much support in studies I know of for the level of protein that Smiffy is consuming, but there's also literally no worthwhile evidence to suggest it could be doing any harm.

smiffy180

6,018 posts

151 months

Saturday 23rd September 2017
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ORD said:
There's not much support in studies I know of for the level of protein that Smiffy is consuming, but there's also literally no worthwhile evidence to suggest it could be doing any harm.
Only a couple studies but the ones I've looked at said up to 2g/kg.
I've dialled it down to just over 300g now with the latest batch of meal prep smile

vonuber

17,868 posts

166 months

Saturday 23rd September 2017
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Genuinely curious, but does anyone take steroids? If so, what precautions do you take to ensure no harm done?

AndStilliRise

2,295 posts

117 months

Saturday 23rd September 2017
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Joining in. Just to add I don't use any supplements or anything but interested in what everyone does. I do lift not as much as I used too but this maybe down to becoming more of a runner than a lifter these days.

Anyone know how to increase leg muscles after a run or bike ride?

baptistsan

1,839 posts

211 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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ORD said:
Anyone working out hard probably needs at least a good multivitamin & high quality fish oil. A lot of supplements are rubbish.

I take:
Multivit & mineral
Glucosamine hydrochloride
Extra vitamin C (prevents soreness, it seems)
Extra selenium
Fish oil (filtered to remove all the mercury)

I also plan to start taking circumin again because it seemed to help with inflammation.

There's not much support in studies I know of for the level of protein that Smiffy is consuming, but there's also literally no worthwhile evidence to suggest it could be doing any harm.
Which fish oil do you use?
Though I'm quite tempted by krill as an alternative.

TIA.

ORD

18,120 posts

128 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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baptistsan said:
ORD said:
Anyone working out hard probably needs at least a good multivitamin & high quality fish oil. A lot of supplements are rubbish.

I take:
Multivit & mineral
Glucosamine hydrochloride
Extra vitamin C (prevents soreness, it seems)
Extra selenium
Fish oil (filtered to remove all the mercury)

I also plan to start taking circumin again because it seemed to help with inflammation.

There's not much support in studies I know of for the level of protein that Smiffy is consuming, but there's also literally no worthwhile evidence to suggest it could be doing any harm.
Which fish oil do you use?
Though I'm quite tempted by krill as an alternative.

TIA.
Cytoplan. All my sups are from there because (1) they are absurdly high quality and (2) I get good discounts. Still more expensive than high street stuff, but my view is that a lot of bog standard stuff is so badly absorbed that it's not worth taking.

baptistsan

1,839 posts

211 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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Brilliant, thank you for that.
Have to say I'm with you on that, I'd rather pay more for quality! Off to have a look.

Kawasicki

13,096 posts

236 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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I don't bother with supplements except for protein powder when I have given my legs a hard time and I don't have time to eat properly straight after exercise.

The vitamin C is interesting, an informed friend of mine has said that some scientific studies have shown it hampers recovery. I've no idea!

ORD

18,120 posts

128 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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Kawasicki said:
I don't bother with supplements except for protein powder when I have given my legs a hard time and I don't have time to eat properly straight after exercise.

The vitamin C is interesting, an informed friend of mine has said that some scientific studies have shown it hampers recovery. I've no idea!
There are two hypotheses, and I think both are credible and consistent.

Immediately after resistance exercise, high dose vitamin c may hinder recovery and muscle growth by blunting one or more of the signals created by muscle damage.

More generally, however, high doses of vitamin c probably help somewhat with soreness (not sure of the theory there other than that anti-oxidants help with inflammation).

I take a lot of vit c but not immediately after exercise. Might all be nonsense, but there's enough there to make a small change.



ikarl

3,730 posts

200 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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vonuber said:
Genuinely curious, but does anyone take steroids? If so, what precautions do you take to ensure no harm done?
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=1692189

Animal

5,253 posts

269 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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PhD Protein Superfood smoothie, typically with orange juice and some Udo's Choice oil
Multi-vitamin
Vitamin D
ZMA

Kawasicki

13,096 posts

236 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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ORD said:
There are two hypotheses, and I think both are credible and consistent.

Immediately after resistance exercise, high dose vitamin c may hinder recovery and muscle growth by blunting one or more of the signals created by muscle damage.

More generally, however, high doses of vitamin c probably help somewhat with soreness (not sure of the theory there other than that anti-oxidants help with inflammation).

I take a lot of vit c but not immediately after exercise. Might all be nonsense, but there's enough there to make a small change.
Thanks for the info!

Chris77

941 posts

195 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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I have some Matrix chocolate whey and BB Warehouse casein Vanilla protein powder which I use in cooking for brownies and banana bread.

BCAA powder (Can't recall the make, its one my gym sells which tastes good)

Amino Army Pre-workout (If I need a boost)

Supermarket own bran Multi-vits and FIsh oil