Reversing Type 2 Diabetes
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No booze, no fags, no sugary soft drinks, stick to 1500-2000 max calories a day with plenty of fresh fruit & veg.
Do some moderate exercise.
People make this massively more complicated than it needs to be, but you need to be honest with yourself which is a huge problem for obese people. They under report their calorie intake & often lie to themselves & others about exercise.
That 600 calorie sandwich you had for lunch doesn't morph into 400 calories when you count it up at the end of the day.
Do some moderate exercise.
People make this massively more complicated than it needs to be, but you need to be honest with yourself which is a huge problem for obese people. They under report their calorie intake & often lie to themselves & others about exercise.
That 600 calorie sandwich you had for lunch doesn't morph into 400 calories when you count it up at the end of the day.
With your insulin resistance (IR), a low carb diet is likely to help you lose weight more quickly and sustainably. It may be the only way you can lose weight with IR. A low carb diet will also reduce your high blood sugars and will do this within a few days while you lose weight. Check out the Keto thread on here for lots of info and expert advice.
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Phil. said:
With your insulin resistance (IR), a low carb diet is likely to help you lose weight more quickly and sustainably. It may be the only way you can lose weight with IR. A low carb diet will also reduce your high blood sugars and will do this within a few days while you lose weight. Check out the Keto thread on here for lots of info and expert advice.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Come on, mate. You like keto. I’m pleased it works for you. But don’t tell someone he has to follow a wacky diet to lose weight. He simply needs to limit his calories. https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
ORD said:
Phil. said:
With your insulin resistance (IR), a low carb diet is likely to help you lose weight more quickly and sustainably. It may be the only way you can lose weight with IR. A low carb diet will also reduce your high blood sugars and will do this within a few days while you lose weight. Check out the Keto thread on here for lots of info and expert advice.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Come on, mate. You like keto. I’m pleased it works for you. But don’t tell someone he has to follow a wacky diet to lose weight. He simply needs to limit his calories. https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
I’m not about the engage you in a debate, it’s been done to death on PH over the years (search for it) but here are a few professionals with massive credibility that you might like look up who differ with your opinion and have the evidence to prove it. If not remain uneducated about how to treat IR and diabetes, which is a lot different to losing weight!
https://thefatemperor.com/
Look up Dr David Unwin, GP
https://twitter.com/lowcarbgp/status/1289132921828...
Look up Prof Tim Noakes in South Africa.
https://thenoakesfoundation.org/
didelydoo said:
Low carb/keto is undoubtedly a good move for those who have slipped in to diabetes. Keep it in a calorie deficit. Exercise with a view to getting weight down and fitness up is also a must.
Get to it, *stick* to it, and hopefully it’ll help you out.
Low carb definitely. It is hard to be fat on a low carb diet. Not because of some magic but simply because it’s much harder to consume too many calories if you limit carbs. Get to it, *stick* to it, and hopefully it’ll help you out.
Gotta love the guy who thinks repeating the global scientific consensus amounts to trolling.
Phil. said:
ORD said:
Yes yes. Calories in. Calories out. End of story. The rest is quackery. The NHS and every major healthcare system in the world agrees with me, because there’s literally no contrary science. All studies ever show weight loss when a calorie deficit is assured. All.
Troll.Robertj21a said:
Phil. said:
ORD said:
Yes yes. Calories in. Calories out. End of story. The rest is quackery. The NHS and every major healthcare system in the world agrees with me, because there’s literally no contrary science. All studies ever show weight loss when a calorie deficit is assured. All.
Troll.Keto diet
The South Beach diet
Atkins
Mediterranean diet
Raw Food diet
Macrobiotic diet
F-Plan diet
Paleo diet
Master Cleanse
Cabbage Soup diet
Scarsdale diet
Grapefruit diet
Alkaline diet
Nutrisystem
Low-carb diet
Zone diet
Beverley Hills diet
Jenny Craig diet
Blood-type diet
Macrobiotic diet
Raw food diet
Phil. said:
Robertj21a said:
???? Explain why please.
It’s widely accepted that if you are IR that it’s almost impossible to lose weight on a CICO only diet without reducing carbs considerably. Take a look at the links I provided above if you wish to learn more. For the majority, carbs aren’t an issue, excess calories are (the insulin obesity model doesn’t hold water, and that’s been shown several times over now)
For a minority verging on, or being diabetic (and it is a minority)- low carb is an effective approach to managing their issues, along with exercise.
For a minority verging on, or being diabetic (and it is a minority)- low carb is an effective approach to managing their issues, along with exercise.
didelydoo said:
For the majority, carbs aren’t an issue, excess calories are (the insulin obesity model doesn’t hold water, and that’s been shown several times over now)
For a minority verging on, or being diabetic (and it is a minority)- low carb is an effective approach to managing their issues, along with exercise.
Unfortunately many people, mainly obese but not always, are IR or T2 and don’t know it. It runs in to millions in the UK. Some ‘experts’ suggest it’s the majority of Americans. So if it a minority then it’s a big minority and is costing the NHS billions a year for something that can be addressed through diet and rather then feeding the pockets of the big pharmaceutical companies. For a minority verging on, or being diabetic (and it is a minority)- low carb is an effective approach to managing their issues, along with exercise.
Dr David Unwin (link above) regularly posts about how much less his practice is spending on T2 medications by promoting a LCHF diet to his patients, and how much healthier they are by modifying their diets. He’s demonstrating that LCHF improves the vast majority of metabolic conditions.
zygalski said:
No booze, no fags, no sugary soft drinks, stick to 1500-2000 max calories a day with plenty of fresh fruit & veg.
Do some moderate exercise.
People make this massively more complicated than it needs to be, but you need to be honest with yourself which is a huge problem for obese people. They under report their calorie intake & often lie to themselves & others about exercise.
That 600 calorie sandwich you had for lunch doesn't morph into 400 calories when you count it up at the end of the day.
Agree with most of this, but fresh fruit and whole fruit juices are a nightmare for diabetics (at least for T1s). The sugar rush from fruit and subsequent insulin demands are pretty scary.Do some moderate exercise.
People make this massively more complicated than it needs to be, but you need to be honest with yourself which is a huge problem for obese people. They under report their calorie intake & often lie to themselves & others about exercise.
That 600 calorie sandwich you had for lunch doesn't morph into 400 calories when you count it up at the end of the day.
If I have a hypo, orange juice is my go-to at the moment......
Also, back to the topic. My Dad was diagnosed T2 diabetic 18 months ago. He has changed diet, reduced weight by approx 10kg and is now 'normal' again. He is well chuffed.
Edited by mike9009 on Monday 17th August 18:28
mike9009 said:
Also, back to the topic. My Dad was diagnosed T2 diabetic 18 months ago. He has changed diet, reduced weight by approx 10kg and is now 'normal' again. He is well chuffed.
Good for your dad Edited by mike9009 on Monday 17th August 18:28
Out of interest, what did dietary changes did he make and who advised him? Phil. said:
mike9009 said:
Also, back to the topic. My Dad was diagnosed T2 diabetic 18 months ago. He has changed diet, reduced weight by approx 10kg and is now 'normal' again. He is well chuffed.
Good for your dad Edited by mike9009 on Monday 17th August 18:28
Out of interest, what did dietary changes did he make and who advised him? My dad was not really overweight and at 76, he still cycles everywhere, maintains two allotments, bell rings, plays badminton, etc. So he is very active.
His downfall, was sweet stuff, ably supported by my Mum and her puddings for the last 50 years.
So essentially, he cut out everything sweet. No sugar on cereal and no marmalade for breakfast. No doughnuts, afternoon cake or dessert for dinner. He also cut down on fruit too. He still has carbs, wholemeal toast, cereal, potatoes, rice, pasta etc. and the occasional dessert now he has been cleared.
Two of his brother were also T2, so it runs in the family. Luckily I have no chance of getting it
I think he was advised through their local GP surgery.
mike9009 said:
Hi Phil,.
My dad was not really overweight and at 76, he still cycles everywhere, maintains two allotments, bell rings, plays badminton, etc. So he is very active.
His downfall, was sweet stuff, ably supported by my Mum and her puddings for the last 50 years.
So essentially, he cut out everything sweet. No sugar on cereal and no marmalade for breakfast. No doughnuts, afternoon cake or dessert for dinner. He also cut down on fruit too. He still has carbs, wholemeal toast, cereal, potatoes, rice, pasta etc. and the occasional dessert now he has been cleared.
Two of his brother were also T2, so it runs in the family. Luckily I have no chance of getting it
I think he was advised through their local GP surgery.
Good plain common sense. Just what I would hope most people would do.My dad was not really overweight and at 76, he still cycles everywhere, maintains two allotments, bell rings, plays badminton, etc. So he is very active.
His downfall, was sweet stuff, ably supported by my Mum and her puddings for the last 50 years.
So essentially, he cut out everything sweet. No sugar on cereal and no marmalade for breakfast. No doughnuts, afternoon cake or dessert for dinner. He also cut down on fruit too. He still has carbs, wholemeal toast, cereal, potatoes, rice, pasta etc. and the occasional dessert now he has been cleared.
Two of his brother were also T2, so it runs in the family. Luckily I have no chance of getting it
I think he was advised through their local GP surgery.
mike9009 said:
Hi Phil,.
My dad was not really overweight and at 76, he still cycles everywhere, maintains two allotments, bell rings, plays badminton, etc. So he is very active.
His downfall, was sweet stuff, ably supported by my Mum and her puddings for the last 50 years.
So essentially, he cut out everything sweet. No sugar on cereal and no marmalade for breakfast. No doughnuts, afternoon cake or dessert for dinner. He also cut down on fruit too. He still has carbs, wholemeal toast, cereal, potatoes, rice, pasta etc. and the occasional dessert now he has been cleared.
Two of his brother were also T2, so it runs in the family. Luckily I have no chance of getting it
I think he was advised through their local GP surgery.
I think he was lucky that his T2 was diagnosed relatively quickly and his body has been able to adapt to a minor reduction in sugars/carbs.My dad was not really overweight and at 76, he still cycles everywhere, maintains two allotments, bell rings, plays badminton, etc. So he is very active.
His downfall, was sweet stuff, ably supported by my Mum and her puddings for the last 50 years.
So essentially, he cut out everything sweet. No sugar on cereal and no marmalade for breakfast. No doughnuts, afternoon cake or dessert for dinner. He also cut down on fruit too. He still has carbs, wholemeal toast, cereal, potatoes, rice, pasta etc. and the occasional dessert now he has been cleared.
Two of his brother were also T2, so it runs in the family. Luckily I have no chance of getting it
I think he was advised through their local GP surgery.
I assume from what you have said that you are T1? If so, have you tried a Freestyle Libre device and checked your response to different types of carbs?
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