Reversing Type 2 Diabetes

[BM Man]

An update on my T2, Diagnosed 18th March this year, 16th May (three days ago, less than 2 months after diagnosis) my Ac1 come back at 30MMOL. In March I was diagnosed at 82 MMOL. So a reduction of 52 MMOL in two months, I'm still in a little shock, in a good way though

[Mr Magooagain]

BM Man said:

An update on my T2, Diagnosed 18th March this year, 16th May (three days ago, less than 2 months after diagnosis) my Ac1 come back at 30MMOL. In March I was diagnosed at 82 MMOL. So a reduction of 52 MMOL in two months, I'm still in a little shock, in a good way though

Great news there. Keep at the diet as best you can.

[bomb]

Mr Magooagain said:

BM Man said:

An update on my T2, Diagnosed 18th March this year, 16th May (three days ago, less than 2 months after diagnosis) my Ac1 come back at 30MMOL. In March I was diagnosed at 82 MMOL. So a reduction of 52 MMOL in two months, I'm still in a little shock, in a good way though

Great news there. Keep at the diet as best you can.

Magnificent stuff ! That's an incredible change. I'm jealous !!

[BM Man]

bomb said:

Magnificent stuff ! That's an incredible change. I'm jealous !!

lol I didnt think I had it in me, you are looking at the worst guy with horriable discipline, I have never had self control. Multiple chocolates, Crisps, cakes and heavy carbs on top of that was the norm on a daily basis....

It shocked me to another level, I was fearing the worst all the time amputations, limb loss and not enjoying life. So it is huge reduction in 2 months, I would like to add maybe the 12KG weight loss in this time also contributed towards a better Ac1?

The private consultant who is the head of Diebetes and a chairmen on the UK Dieates Association wrote a letter to my GP saying I am fully in remittenace and my cholestreol and triglyciderides have dropped as well in 2 months....Blood pressure has also decreased...

[Mr Magooagain]

I've just had my 3 month blood test this morning and the result is 38 M mol/mol.
Previous test was 43,so I'm heading in the right direction.

[WyrleyD]

Does anybody here use a Dexcom CGM? My last HbA1c blood test showed that my glucose levels had risen far more that expected, by a long way!

My cholesterol levels have gone from normal to way more than expected and I have now been put on statins, the diabetic nurse reckons it's because of my elevated glucose levels and the Q-Index whatever that is went from 10 to 44 . When I was first diagnosed in 2014 I went on a self administered low-carb high fat diet which was OK at the time and seemed to be working out but since then I've obviously slipped with the carbs (I know I have but much more than I would have thought). Since the blood test two weeks ago I've reduced my carb intake to less than 100g a day and have lost 2kg in weight down fro 76kg to 74kg.

Anyway, I've ordered a Dexcom One, it's expensive but I'm going to try it for 3 months so I can track what's happening with my food intake to see if there's a particular food that I should not be eating. My normal daily diet according to the DN is fine, breakfast is whole rolled oats (one tablespoon soaked overnight), quarter of a banana, quarter of a pear, two strawberries and ten blueberries plus a fresh fig if can get hold of them and a cup of Bay Leaf tea. Lunch is three WASA Fibres crispbreads, Benecol spread, a thin slice of Manchego cheese, thin slice of Sheep's cheese, some sliced cucumber and a cup of normal tea with semi-skimmed milk, I will also have tinned sardines mixed in a couple of times a week. Dinner is now either fish or chicken most days with some red meat once a week. The Dexcom One is available on the NHS but not for me as I would have to Type 2 and injecting insulin to qualify.

I was snacking on nuts whenever I had the munchies which recently was occurring more and more and was getting through something like £16 a week on mixed nuts so I've now knocked that on the head too and only have few every other day or so.

I've seen various reports that the Dexcom One is a downgraded Dexcom G6 which works out about 50% more expensive and the One is missing a lot of the features of the G6 which as far as I can tell mostly benefits those with Type 1.

I'll be interested to hear from anyone using one and will report back on how I get on and what I found using it.

[mike9009]

WyrleyD said:

Does anybody here use a Dexcom CGM? My last HbA1c blood test showed that my glucose levels had risen far more that expected, by a long way!

My cholesterol levels have gone from normal to way more than expected and I have now been put on statins, the diabetic nurse reckons it's because of my elevated glucose levels and the Q-Index whatever that is went from 10 to 44 . When I was first diagnosed in 2014 I went on a self administered low-carb high fat diet which was OK at the time and seemed to be working out but since then I've obviously slipped with the carbs (I know I have but much more than I would have thought). Since the blood test two weeks ago I've reduced my carb intake to less than 100g a day and have lost 2kg in weight down fro 76kg to 74kg.

Anyway, I've ordered a Dexcom One, it's expensive but I'm going to try it for 3 months so I can track what's happening with my food intake to see if there's a particular food that I should not be eating. My normal daily diet according to the DN is fine, breakfast is whole rolled oats (one tablespoon soaked overnight), quarter of a banana, quarter of a pear, two strawberries and ten blueberries plus a fresh fig if can get hold of them and a cup of Bay Leaf tea. Lunch is three WASA Fibres crispbreads, Benecol spread, a thin slice of Manchego cheese, thin slice of Sheep's cheese, some sliced cucumber and a cup of normal tea with semi-skimmed milk, I will also have tinned sardines mixed in a couple of times a week. Dinner is now either fish or chicken most days with some red meat once a week. The Dexcom One is available on the NHS but not for me as I would have to Type 2 and injecting insulin to qualify.

I was snacking on nuts whenever I had the munchies which recently was occurring more and more and was getting through something like £16 a week on mixed nuts so I've now knocked that on the head too and only have few every other day or so.

I've seen various reports that the Dexcom One is a downgraded Dexcom G6 which works out about 50% more expensive and the One is missing a lot of the features of the G6 which as far as I can tell mostly benefits those with Type 1.

I'll be interested to hear from anyone using one and will report back on how I get on and what I found using it.

I use Freestyle Libre, but I am T1D. It is amazingly useful, as will the Dexcom for yourself.

Your diet sounds pretty strict. The only thing I note from your diet that might be having an impact is the fruit at breakfast. I am by no means the perfect diabetic (or expert) and have a habit of gorging on certain food types. I have more or less cut fruit from my diet. You might just find out that your pancreas needs more help than just diet as you get older too.

Maybe scrambled eggs instead, with some spinach??

I am also on Statins, which has halved my cholesterol, with no apparent side effects.

[PositronicRay]

Echo what Mike says. I too have reduced fruit due to sugar spikes. I limit myself to one small banana per day, which equals about 20g of carbs.

It might be worth doing a pre/post breakfast finger prick to evaluate.

As an aside a friend has recently gone from T2 to 1.5 (LADA). Less understanding of this condition or the treatment, the GP and DN at his surgery didn't pick it up, it was identified at the hospital clinic.

[g3org3y]

BM Man said:

An update on my T2, Diagnosed 18th March this year, 16th May (three days ago, less than 2 months after diagnosis) my Ac1 come back at 30MMOL. In March I was diagnosed at 82 MMOL. So a reduction of 52 MMOL in two months, I'm still in a little shock, in a good way though

Fantastic achievement. Well done.

[BM Man]

g3org3y said:

Fantastic achievement. Well done.

TBF it felt like a big feat then and I was pleasantly surprised. One month on, weight loss has been maintained although it slowed down drastically. I think I am definitely not as strict as I was in the first two month of diagnosis. I have slipped up many a times now, usual MAC D's and chocolates and Ice Cream etc. I need to get focussed again. Anyone on this forum been in remission for years? Is this a progressive condition or once you lose the weight as a T2 does your body function better? My one is responding faster when I put crap in my body, I do a measurement before and after, but I need to be careful as I can’t slip in my old ways.

[Mr Magooagain]

BM Man said:

TBF it felt like a big feat then and I was pleasantly surprised. One month on, weight loss has been maintained although it slowed down drastically. I think I am definitely not as strict as I was in the first two month of diagnosis. I have slipped up many a times now, usual MAC D's and chocolates and Ice Cream etc. I need to get focussed again. Anyone on this forum been in remission for years? Is this a progressive condition or once you lose the weight as a T2 does your body function better? My one is responding faster when I put crap in my body, I do a measurement before and after, but I need to be careful as I can’t slip in my old ways.

From what you say it looks as though you have already slipped into your old ways. You know what's crap food.
Stick at it mate.

[BM Man]

Mr Magooagain said:

From what you say it looks as though you have already slipped into your old ways. You know what's crap food.
Stick at it mate.

Definitly not the old ways, somewhere in between, happy medium. Still doing finger pricks daily. Numbers seem ok maybe because I have gone from a 40inch waist to 34\35 now?

Edited by BM Man on Tuesday 27th June 10:54

[dingg]

dingg said:

Looking likely I'll have to be joining the gang

Last 3 blood tests show 40mmol, 39mmol and most recently 42mmol.

The reduction was due to metformin tablet every morning for 3 months decided to come off it and now 42mmol, wife's a bit of a feeder and I'm easily persuaded, plus I like booze.

Seeing my doc in a couple of weeks to discuss way forward, will probably try metformin again for 6 months and try to sort diet a bit better than currently is....

Ps 62 yo, overweight, could do with losing a stone or two

Update, lost 7kg, cut down on the carbs and over eating, yomping every morning down into the valley and back up the hill (bit of a killer)

Yesterday's results

Glucose 89mg/ml down from 110 a year ago
Hba1c 5.6 38mmol down from 42
Estimated mean glucose 114 down from 126 mg/ml

Just need to keep it up


Used metformin for a couple of months but ended up with severe squits off it so binned it off.

[Phil.]

Good effort. Well done for getting off the meds through diet and exercise. Keep going

[dingg]

Phil. said:

Good effort. Well done for getting off the meds through diet and exercise. Keep going

Thank you, that's the plan, I reckon if I can manage to lose another 7kg I will be in a much better place, that's the plan and realistic target, reassess if (no once!) I get there.... :-)

[classicaholic]

I have just had a blood test that the quack thinks may be T2, I need a low carb diet but looking at the web all I come up with is stupidly complicated recipes that will take ages, anyone got any recommendations for simple, quick preferably 1 pan or microwave stuff thats actually edible.
Thanks

[mike9009]

classicaholic said:

I have just had a blood test that the quack thinks may be T2, I need a low carb diet but looking at the web all I come up with is stupidly complicated recipes that will take ages, anyone got any recommendations for simple, quick preferably 1 pan or microwave stuff thats actually edible.
Thanks

Perhaps try looking at it the opposite way round? Reducing your high carbs and see what is left in your diet....then expand from there. Evolution rather than revolution.....

I am T1D, so slightly different.

But wraps with large filling of chicken, cheese, raw peppers, tomatoes and sour cream is quick and easy with a toaster and chicken in the air fryer. Scrambled eggs with spinach for breakfast.
Bolognese with no spaghetti in a wrap.
Stir fries but no noodles.

Cannot think of others immediately but I am sure others will contribute.

[Phil.]

classicaholic said:

I have just had a blood test that the quack thinks may be T2, I need a low carb diet but looking at the web all I come up with is stupidly complicated recipes that will take ages, anyone got any recommendations for simple, quick preferably 1 pan or microwave stuff thats actually edible.
Thanks

Eat a mixture of meat, veg, salad, eggs, cheese. Start to enjoy mushrooms, spinach, broccoli etc. Omelettes are quick and easy. Minimise root veg as they are higher in carbs.

Avoid all carbs for a while, you’ll loose weight and may reverse your T2 in only a few months.

Read every label and don’t eat/drink anything with more than 10g carbs.

Avoid processed foods.

[WyrleyD]

Update on my tales of woe from last year. I got the Dexcom 1 and used it for three months, would have renewed it but I never really found a good place to put the sensor, tried both arms and abdomen but found I was putting pressure on it at some point during the night which threw the readings off. Anyway, I found that rolled oats badly affected my glucose levels they shot up within about 30 mins and stayed high for many hours, I used to have them every day and had done for many years so knocked tat on the head.

After my scare in May (HbA1c, cholesterol and Triglycerides all out of whack) I embarked on a very low-carb (<30g/day) and high saturated fat diet together with a time restricted eating regime, I settled on the 18:6 where I fast for 18 hours and eat during the remaining 6 hours (fast 6pm to 12 mid-day next day and eat between mid-day and 6pm). My weight went down rapidly for the first 2 months from 74-76kg to 68kg but them climbed back to 70-71kg where it's been stable, the good thing is that I had "private" HbA1c tests with good results:

May 2023 - 68
September 2023 - 42 (pre-diabetic)
December 2023 - 40 (non-diabetic)

In January I got over confident and decided to stop taking my Metformin and my last HbA1c test last week came back at 46 so I'm back on Metformin now, will stick it out for another year or so until I've had 3 clear readings of below 40.

Edit to add: My last cholesterol and Triglycerides were fine and the HDL/Triglyceride ratio was excellent.

Edited by WyrleyD on Friday 22 March 17:33

[PositronicRay]

mike9009 said:

classicaholic said:

I have just had a blood test that the quack thinks may be T2, I need a low carb diet but looking at the web all I come up with is stupidly complicated recipes that will take ages, anyone got any recommendations for simple, quick preferably 1 pan or microwave stuff thats actually edible.
Thanks

Perhaps try looking at it the opposite way round? Reducing your high carbs and see what is left in your diet....then expand from there. Evolution rather than revolution.....

I am T1D, so slightly different.

But wraps with large filling of chicken, cheese, raw peppers, tomatoes and sour cream is quick and easy with a toaster and chicken in the air fryer. Scrambled eggs with spinach for breakfast.
Bolognese with no spaghetti in a wrap.
Stir fries but no noodles.

Cannot think of others immediately but I am sure others will contribute.

Think about booze too, works in weird ways and not linear. Beer spikes my BS, and also effects absorption of other carbs. Wine and spirits do not.