How much do you drink, honestly?

How much do you drink, honestly?

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Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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TameRacingDriver said:
Over a month off the wine for me now....

I'm definitely noticing my tolerance going down. Friday had 5 cans of IPA (330) and last night 8 cans.

I've been having 3 or 4 cans every night but on Thursday I got a payrise and bonus so celebrated and had 6.

My end goal is at least 2 dry days a week and no more than 3 cans on the days I don't drink.

I am proud of myself actually. My weekly units are currently about hovering around 65ish, which is down from as many as 140 when I was on the wine. And going forward I hope that drops to around 50, most of which is consumed on a weekend. Yes still too much technically but I enjoy having a few cans and you're a long time dead. That will still have cut my units down to a 3rd.
140 odd down to the low 60’s is a big start well done.

Could you try to trim 1 can off per day when you drink? Will save some £ (a free payrise smile ) which Unit dependant per can could trim a further 10-18 units off your current rate.

I know it cannot happen over night but it’s the direction of travel that’s important.

TameRacingDriver

18,091 posts

272 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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Welshbeef said:
140 odd down to the low 60’s is a big start well done.

Could you try to trim 1 can off per day when you drink? Will save some £ (a free payrise smile ) which Unit dependant per can could trim a further 10-18 units off your current rate.

I know it cannot happen over night but it’s the direction of travel that’s important.
Thanks fella. Yeah I'm definitely going to keep trying to cut down here and there. Biggest problem as I see it right now is drinking right before bed time which usually results in heartburn. Anything to get rid of that would be great. I know it's the drink because if I ever manage to stay dry then I don't get it.

TheJimi

24,993 posts

243 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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TameRacingDriver said:
Over a month off the wine for me now....

I'm definitely noticing my tolerance going down. Friday had 5 cans of IPA (330) and last night 8 cans.

I've been having 3 or 4 cans every night but on Thursday I got a payrise and bonus so celebrated and had 6.
Probably stating the obvious here but your tolerance for the beers won't stay like that if you maintain the intake.

Before you know it, the "standard" 4 cans will become 6 cans...

But yeah, 140 at peak down to 50/60 odd is a big jump, very well done.

WarnieV6GT

1,135 posts

199 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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wormus said:
Oh for goodness sake. What a load of self righteous balls on here. Try growing up in the 70s when everyone was pissed most of the time. My parents are still alive, sucking the NHS dry but still alive. “Go for a run on holiday?” fk off. Holidays are for drinking and having fun.

You’re a long time dead so live whilst you have life to live and stop being such a bell.
That's like the fking land rover tits who have to have the sticker on the back "one life live it" bks.

No fk that, my idea of living is not driving a fking uncomfortable slow tractor through mud at the weekends. Similarly getting pissed out my tree on holiday or not is not my idea of "living life".

Been there and done it many times over, and coming back from a holiday feeling like I need another is not a holiday to me.

The same as waking up after a night on the piss where I hadn't a clue about what went on after 10pm and now have a stinking hangover which has rendered my only day off that week as ruined is not my idea of living either.

Not knocking those that like that sort of stuff and it is the norm for them, but to say you only can have fun and enjoy life by being rat-arsed is bks imo.


TameRacingDriver

18,091 posts

272 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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TheJimi said:
Probably stating the obvious here but your tolerance for the beers won't stay like that if you maintain the intake.

Before you know it, the "standard" 4 cans will become 6 cans...

But yeah, 140 at peak down to 50/60 odd is a big jump, very well done.
Thanks mate.

I’m not convinced that I will start drinking more as I find them too volumous / gassy to drink any faster than I do now.

Even on a night out now I’m no longer able to drink loads of pints, vodka and shots. Usually a typical Friday night now is about 6-7 pints and I’m usually very well served by then!

Robertj21a

16,477 posts

105 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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TameRacingDriver said:
Over a month off the wine for me now....

I'm definitely noticing my tolerance going down. Friday had 5 cans of IPA (330) and last night 8 cans.

I've been having 3 or 4 cans every night but on Thursday I got a payrise and bonus so celebrated and had 6.

My end goal is at least 2 dry days a week and no more than 3 cans on the days I don't drink.

I am proud of myself actually. My weekly units are currently about hovering around 65ish, which is down from as many as 140 when I was on the wine. And going forward I hope that drops to around 50, most of which is consumed on a weekend. Yes still too much technically but I enjoy having a few cans and you're a long time dead. That will still have cut my units down to a 3rd.
Well done that man !

Excellent progress, not surprised that you are pleased with yourself.

TameRacingDriver

18,091 posts

272 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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Robertj21a said:
Well done that man !

Excellent progress, not surprised that you are pleased with yourself.
Thanks mate smile

Once I’m down to the level I’m currently aiming for, and make it a habit, I can then decide whether to stick to that or whether I want to cut down further.

One thing I can guarantee though - I will never, ever get back on the wine. That stuff is definitely bad for me!

TheJimi

24,993 posts

243 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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TameRacingDriver said:
TheJimi said:
Probably stating the obvious here but your tolerance for the beers won't stay like that if you maintain the intake.

Before you know it, the "standard" 4 cans will become 6 cans...

But yeah, 140 at peak down to 50/60 odd is a big jump, very well done.
Thanks mate.

I’m not convinced that I will start drinking more as I find them too volumous / gassy to drink any faster than I do now.

Even on a night out now I’m no longer able to drink loads of pints, vodka and shots. Usually a typical Friday night now is about 6-7 pints and I’m usually very well served by then!
Good stuff. You've got you head screwed on smile

What's the story with the other half?

hairyben

8,516 posts

183 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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If its of interest to anyone, I had a try of some "original small beer" the other night, lagers brewed to 1-2%, and found it very palatable, a world away from the dishwater that is your usual "lite" beer offerings.

I could well imagine sipping on a few of these on a Sunday afternoon watching the race when you don't want to start on full strength beer because my problem is, once I start I seem to lack the ability to either go slow or stop so it turns into a 11 hour sesh.

Not cheap at about £2 a small bottle though. Our local majestic was offering them at a wine tasting.

TameRacingDriver

18,091 posts

272 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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TheJimi said:
Good stuff. You've got you head screwed on smile

What's the story with the other half?
Well, she is still on the wine, but has agreed that she also needs to do at least 2 days off, so we've come to an arrangement that going forward she is allowing herself 3 bottles to drink, so theoretically 1.5 bottles a night for 2 nights, or a bottle a night for 30 That should take her down to around the 90 unit / week mark which is still too much, but its a start. She at least now acknowledges that drinking at those levels is not sustainable, but the thing is with booze, I don't think stopping overnight really works when you drink at that level.

Problem with the O/H is she doesn't really like much else other than wine. She does like cider but struggles to even finish one bottle of that due to her getting full.

It's really one step at a time there, but she has shown desire to change. In fairness she has lost a fair bit of weight recently (in fact I'd say she was nearly back to the same size as when we met 10 years ago) so she is also agreeing to up her exercise a bit too.

We are actually getting on better now, and now that I've got the wine thing out of my head, I'm not finding it anywhere near as bad because I've basically tried to condition myself into thinking that I don't like wine anymore, and it seems to work, I've never been tempted, and even if I was, I just think back to how bad things were before.

So, touch wood, things are looking up. smile

TameRacingDriver

18,091 posts

272 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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hairyben said:
If its of interest to anyone, I had a try of some "original small beer" the other night, lagers brewed to 1-2%, and found it very palatable, a world away from the dishwater that is your usual "lite" beer offerings.

I could well imagine sipping on a few of these on a Sunday afternoon watching the race when you don't want to start on full strength beer because my problem is, once I start I seem to lack the ability to either go slow or stop so it turns into a 11 hour sesh.

Not cheap at about £2 a small bottle though. Our local majestic was offering them at a wine tasting.
Give Brewdog "Nanny State" a try. I've heard this is really nice, yet its only about 0.5% and under 50 cals a bottle.

hairyben

8,516 posts

183 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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TameRacingDriver said:
Well, she is still on the wine, but has agreed that she also needs to do at least 2 days off, so we've come to an arrangement that going forward she is allowing herself 3 bottles to drink, so theoretically 1.5 bottles a night for 2 nights, or a bottle a night for 30 That should take her down to around the 90 unit / week mark which is still too much, but its a start. She at least now acknowledges that drinking at those levels is not sustainable, but the thing is with booze, I don't think stopping overnight really works when you drink at that level.

Problem with the O/H is she doesn't really like much else other than wine. She does like cider but struggles to even finish one bottle of that due to her getting full.

It's really one step at a time there, but she has shown desire to change. In fairness she has lost a fair bit of weight recently (in fact I'd say she was nearly back to the same size as when we met 10 years ago) so she is also agreeing to up her exercise a bit too.

We are actually getting on better now, and now that I've got the wine thing out of my head, I'm not finding it anywhere near as bad because I've basically tried to condition myself into thinking that I don't like wine anymore, and it seems to work, I've never been tempted, and even if I was, I just think back to how bad things were before.

So, touch wood, things are looking up. smile
at risk of stating the obvious or already suggested can she mix it up, alternate non alc drinks or spritzers?

TameRacingDriver

18,091 posts

272 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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hairyben said:
at risk of stating the obvious or already suggested can she mix it up, alternate non alc drinks or spritzers?
Hmm one step at a time smile

GT03ROB

13,268 posts

221 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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Welshbeef said:
FocusRS3 said:
The last 7 days for me have been last Saturday a bottle and a half of wine, Sunday and Monday zero, Tuesday bottle of wine , Wednesday zero, Thursday out with old mates got hammered on beer wine and shots . Friday zero and a bottle of wine last night .

Now I'd not normally do the Thursday part so how does this describe my drinking habits do you think ?

My plan next year is zero in January and then mid part of next year only drinking on a Saturday and get fit instead . Best laid plans.........
We’re you on holiday for the week or celebrating birthdays/something?

Otherwise to me that is a hefty amount
Interesting... because to me thats really not much. If you leave Thursday out of it then it's 3 1/2 bottles of wine over 8 days or 2 medium glasses a night. Hardly excessive.

Colonel D

628 posts

72 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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interesting topic, seems odd the amount some drink.

Personally i don't drink at all, growing up with 2 alcoholic parents will do that though. Used to in early teems but just stopped as I don't want to be like them. The amount some here say they drink is crazy. Not judging anyone but I would say it's not just what you think, it's those around you, I know I fking hated my parents for it even before I (and possibly them) knew there was a problem. I'm not saying I had, or that you are a bad parent, but seeing someone drink everyday, and eventually get dependent on it is not nice for people around you, it can, has, and will continue to tear families apart.

Again not judging anyone, just my feeling and opinion on drinking regularly.

acer12

961 posts

174 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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Colonel D said:
interesting topic, seems odd the amount some drink.

Personally i don't drink at all, growing up with 2 alcoholic parents will do that though. Used to in early teems but just stopped as I don't want to be like them. The amount some here say they drink is crazy. Not judging anyone but I would say it's not just what you think, it's those around you, I know I fking hated my parents for it even before I (and possibly them) knew there was a problem. I'm not saying I had, or that you are a bad parent, but seeing someone drink everyday, and eventually get dependent on it is not nice for people around you, it can, has, and will continue to tear families apart.

Again not judging anyone, just my feeling and opinion on drinking regularly.
Fair play. I could have been you in that my parents both had alcoholic siblings(hence why I dip into this thread) however I know they made the huge effort to be responsible around us growing up and we only saw alcohol on special / rare occasions, I think them doing so instilled more fear / respect of alcohol on us and being honest them doing so probably steered them down a different path in life.

I had my fair share when I was in my 20s but have cut back hugely since the kids came along and try to apply same approach my parents did and do my bit to have a positive influence on their lives.

tim0409

4,421 posts

159 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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Johnnytheboy said:
TameRacingDriver said:
Ho hum said:
Over the late May bank holiday weekend I had quite a bit to drink and ended up having hangover anxiety, which wasn't pleasant at all.
I used to call that "the fear". Truly dreadful feeling. I get anxiety anyway but often when I'm hungover its a lot worse.
I've been at it for years and I'm 99% sure I've never had this.
I haven't had a single drink in 30 months because of this; I've suffered from depression in the past and found that even a couple of glasses of wine would make me infinitely worse (that's all I would generally drink so by no means a "drinker") - this would start during the night and last for a few days. I stopped because the last time I drank I felt suicidal. It's fairly well understood that alcohol acts as a depressant, but from what I read even after it has been processed there is a metabolite which can cause depression/anxiety.

I've managed to completely break the habit of drinking and generally don't miss it, but sometimes when I am holiday or out with friends for a meal a nice glass of wine looks appealing....

xx99xx

1,920 posts

73 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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I'd class myself as a heavy drinker, and have been for probably 10-15 years, but I've never had this anxiety/depression thing so consider myself lucky. That would probably put me off somewhat.

I like this thread as I get to compare my 'heavy drinking' with what others will call heavy drinking. And I take some mild comfort from knowing that I am not even close to heavy as some people. Nevertheless, I am completely aware of the health impacts and would ultimately like to drink less. I know how hard it can be cut down or give up.

10 out of 10 for all you winning your booze battle. What scares me is that you probably don't know how damaged your body is until it's too late, unless you go for regular testing. I am somewhat reluctant to get tested regularly as I think anything negative on my medical record is always going to cause issues in the future, e.g life insurance etc. Although not as big an issue as dying because I refused to get tested! I know, sounds daft.

On that note, does anyone know of anything that one could take (legal) for a mild buzz as an alternative to booze? E.g supplements, herbal etc

TameRacingDriver

18,091 posts

272 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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There’s nothing legal I can think of that will give you a buzz.

Personally I like music, with high quality speakers or headphones and your favourite music can be truly wonderful, if you are into music, anyway.

Otherwise your obvious non legal equivalent (and I’d argue, far less harmful) is weed.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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acer12 said:
Fair play. I could have been you in that my parents both had alcoholic siblings(hence why I dip into this thread) however I know they made the huge effort to be responsible around us growing up and we only saw alcohol on special / rare occasions, I think them doing so instilled more fear / respect of alcohol on us and being honest them doing so probably steered them down a different path in life.

I had my fair share when I was in my 20s but have cut back hugely since the kids came along and try to apply same approach my parents did and do my bit to have a positive influence on their lives.
Well played on cutting back it’s not easy - what did you drink v now?