How much do you drink, honestly?

How much do you drink, honestly?

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Welshbeef

38,405 posts

146 months

Saturday 9th February
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GT03ROB said:
No I'm not suggesting that. I'm thinking more of the scenario whereby you go out for lunch have a glass or 2 of wine & you can't stop there but just continue. Or can't just have 1 glass of wine in the evening. You know the situation the people who can't just have one. By the way it's not being judgemental about it, just interested if those that say they drink a lot feel they lose control of the situation or if it's a conscious decision. The scenarios you describe are to me conscious decisions.
Mrs & I would only ever go out for a meal Fri or Sat (if we can get a baby sitter)
I’d say in those (rare) occasions I’d probably have 4-6 pints of ale and the Mrs would have a bottle of wine.

Conversely if staying in on the weekend and having wine with the meal we likely finish the bottle - basically because neither of us would then touch it until the following Friday (which is pretty stale / so would Bin it).

Last night I supped 2 very nice ciders 4% between 7-11pm didn’t need anymore and didn’t have any. Note the garage fridges and outside of crises there is loads of booze so it’s not that I’m not consuming because of availability.

Now today it’s a double header of Rugby.. Scotland v Ireland and Italy v Wales followed by a rom com. Now as the games are starting early pm I’ve a choice watch them live which means I’d be on it early & essentially have from 9am-1.30pm to do everything else I want to as driving is after any drink. Or record them turn off news updates and WhatsApp notifications then watch them 5pm meaning I’m not on it so early / forcing myself to cut out 3.5hours of drinking and having more time to do other stuff.

Let’s see how that goes - or doesn’t.

Welshbeef

38,405 posts

146 months

Saturday 9th February
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I do know a daily drinker who ensures he never has any booze in the house - he will buy a 4 pack and it’s consumed on the day never any carry over or just walk to the pub. Removal of temptation

TameRacingDriver

12,715 posts

220 months

Saturday 9th February
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I did another 4 days this week. Getting easy now.

Last weekend, I did come off the rails quite badly; out on Friday night, probably had around 7 or 8 pints of Punk IPA (5.4%) and felt pretty rotten that morning. Yet, by the afternoon/evening, I was back on it, and concluded the weekend by drinking 11 cans of average 6% beer each night.

Come Monday, not only did I feel disappointed in myself, but also dreadfully under the weather/hungover, and its taken me nearly a week to recover.

I can only assume my tolerance is quickly falling due to not drinking through the week, so I made a decision to scrap the strong beer, and go for the session IPA instead. So for example, I’ve swapped Goose IPA (6%) with Goose Midway (4%). Swapped Elvis Juice (6.5%) with Clockwork Tangerine (4.5%), and Punk IPA (5.6%) with something else - this weekend its Lagunitas Daytime (4.4%).

So last night, I went for a pint at the pub, and tried a pint of Dutty IPA - bloody lovely and only 4.2%. Then I had 6 cans at home of the above ‘session’ beers. For the most part they were just as drinkable, perhaps the stronger ones are slightly nicer but there’s not much in it, and actually I prefer the CT to the EJ. I had just a nice little buzz and this morning feel right as rain in comparison with last weekend, so yeah, I’m definitely going to avoid the strong stuff now.

Plus there is a significant saving in units and calories. For example, the 6% beers are generally about 2 units per can and 200 calories (give or take). So if I were to have 30 cans over a weekend, that’s 60 units and 6000 calories. Whereas, the weaker beers are around 1.3 units and 130 calories, so that brings it down a fair bit to around 40 units and 4000 calories, that’s quite a big saving. Yes I know, not ideal still but at this stage I still can’t see a point where I want to be teetotal - even though that seems to be the goal of many, I still enjoy it, but I’m learning where my limits are now, and those numbers may come down in future if my tolerance further reduces.

HustleRussell

17,140 posts

108 months

Saturday 9th February
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There is a bit of a difference between 30 cans in one weekend and being teetotal.

deckster

4,651 posts

203 months

Saturday 9th February
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Welshbeef said:
Now today it’s a double header of Rugby.. Scotland v Ireland and Italy v Wales followed by a rom com. Now as the games are starting early pm I’ve a choice watch them live which means I’d be on it early & essentially have from 9am-1.30pm to do everything else I want to as driving is after any drink. Or record them turn off news updates and WhatsApp notifications then watch them 5pm meaning I’m not on it so early / forcing myself to cut out 3.5hours of drinking and having more time to do other stuff.
Out of interest, have you ever tried watching the rugby without drinking? It's just a habit, you know. You yourself acknowledge that, once you've started, you write off the the rest of the day - so who knows what 'other stuff' you could find time to do!

Welshbeef

38,405 posts

146 months

Saturday 9th February
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deckster said:
Out of interest, have you ever tried watching the rugby without drinking? It's just a habit, you know. You yourself acknowledge that, once you've started, you write off the the rest of the day - so who knows what 'other stuff' you could find time to do!
When we were flying out in the evening yes as was driving. Otherwise no.

But watching the games live they would finish say 7-7:30pm. That’s kids bedtime (as they will want to watch wales) so kids bedtime then prepare evening meal and bed. Not much else that could be done. Remember how long 2 games of rugby take to watch + the commentary/build up.

TameRacingDriver

12,715 posts

220 months

Saturday 9th February
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HustleRussell said:
There is a bit of a difference between 30 cans in one weekend and being teetotal.
Really? I never realised...

Barga

10,480 posts

154 months

Saturday 9th February
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GT03ROB said:
For how many of you is the problem you can't just have 1?

So to take Welshies example of a cava at breakfast does that kick -off a day of drinking or does having 1 at lunchtime kick-off drinking all afternoon?

Can you actually stop, once you've started??
The old “1 is to many,20 not enough!” Scenario.

Welshbeef

38,405 posts

146 months

Saturday 9th February
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Barga said:
The old “1 is to many,20 not enough!” Scenario.
20 is strong for anyone even a seasoned drinker to do in an evening. A Leo Sayer is different (ish) as by finish the first 4-5 hours will be out of your system

TameRacingDriver

12,715 posts

220 months

Saturday 9th February
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This lad here downed 23 pints on his 23rd birthday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IO9kDJV7vpQ

Even when I could drink a lot I wouldn't have gotten close to that. I would have been pushing up the daisies. Quite the performance (and quite the beer belly), but if he carries on like that, I'm not sure I'd like to be him when I get to my age!

Barga

10,480 posts

154 months

Saturday 9th February
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Welshbeef said:
Barga said:
The old “1 is to many,20 not enough!” Scenario.
20 is strong for anyone even a seasoned drinker to do in an evening. A Leo Sayer is different (ish) as by finish the first 4-5 hours will be out of your system
You do know it’s not a literal saying it just means once you have the first you can’t stop?

Welshbeef

38,405 posts

146 months

Saturday 9th February
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TameRacingDriver said:
This lad here downed 23 pints on his 23rd birthday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IO9kDJV7vpQ

Even when I could drink a lot I wouldn't have gotten close to that. I would have been pushing up the daisies. Quite the performance (and quite the beer belly), but if he carries on like that, I'm not sure I'd like to be him when I get to my age!
I’m not sure that’s genuine - possible multiple occasions/days not same day.

He doesn’t even look that pissed - if I down say 5 in a row (and the last 2 would take an age for me) I’d be very light headed / no Male that pissed

funinhounslow

636 posts

90 months

Saturday 9th February
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deckster said:
Out of interest, have you ever tried watching the rugby without drinking? It's just a habit, you know. You yourself acknowledge that, once you've started, you write off the the rest of the day - so who knows what 'other stuff' you could find time to do!
This is absolutely a key point - most occasions where alcohol is consumed are still pleasurable without the alcohol eg watching sports, bands, comedy nights, pub quizzes. Even family occasions such as weddings...

Budflicker

3,331 posts

132 months

Saturday 9th February
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I dont drink much, but when i do, I turn into a different person....

And that person drinks stloads, gets stfaced and gets in all sorts of trouble....

Jiebo

162 posts

44 months

Saturday 9th February
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Welshbeef said:
I’ve done - for my sins (on different occasions)
3 bottles of wine in a minute
10 pints in 30mins and carried on all night
The power hour(those who drink know what that is).
A pint of spirits in one - birthday punishment.
Blindfolded sitting on a chair tube in the mouth 2x 4pint pitchers poured in and the buggers kept pouring scotch - Rugby initiation (vomited everywhere instantly).
Thats quite disturbing, I'm not sure how you're still alive or why you would do something so incredibly stupid multiple times. 99.9% of the general public would be in a coma within an hour and would die shortly after without a visit to A&E.

Welshbeef

38,405 posts

146 months

Saturday 9th February
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Jiebo said:
Welshbeef said:
I’ve done - for my sins (on different occasions)
3 bottles of wine in a minute
10 pints in 30mins and carried on all night
The power hour(those who drink know what that is).
A pint of spirits in one - birthday punishment.
Blindfolded sitting on a chair tube in the mouth 2x 4pint pitchers poured in and the buggers kept pouring scotch - Rugby initiation (vomited everywhere instantly).
Thats quite disturbing, I'm not sure how you're still alive or why you would do something so incredibly stupid multiple times. 99.9% of the general public would be in a coma within an hour and would die shortly after without a visit to A&E.
Can you share your age range out of interest and also very rough area where you grew up.

guindilias

2,902 posts

68 months

Sunday 10th February
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funinhounslow said:
This is absolutely a key point - most occasions where alcohol is consumed are still pleasurable without the alcohol eg watching sports, bands, comedy nights, pub quizzes. Even family occasions such as weddings...
When I have a pint, there is no stopping - sometimes for days. I vaguely remember driving a mate's supercharged Corrado VR6 round the ring road with a bottle of whiskey between my legs, hitting 154 mph - it was a 40mph limit. Not something I am proud of.
He had to get out to fill it with petrol - I couldn't even walk. He could barely stand.
I've been banned for 4 years once - Magistrates don't like people pleading not guilty. Now I don't even have a pint before driving - not worth the risk, kill yourself, not somebody's child.
Yes, I am a big drinker, and I don't know when to stop - but that is something I'll deal with, rather than a hefty prison sentence and the knowledge that I've destroyed a life, a family, forever.


guindilias

2,902 posts

68 months

Sunday 10th February
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funinhounslow said:
This is absolutely a key point - most occasions where alcohol is consumed are still pleasurable without the alcohol eg watching sports, bands, comedy nights, pub quizzes. Even family occasions such as weddings...
Not for a lot of people - I bloody hate sober weddings!

nealeh1875

278 posts

40 months

Monday 11th February
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GT03ROB said:
For how many of you is the problem you can't just have 1?

So to take Welshies example of a cava at breakfast does that kick -off a day of drinking or does having 1 at lunchtime kick-off drinking all afternoon?

Can you actually stop, once you've started??
For me, if i go out with my mates, usually me and at least 1 or 2 others, there is automatically 2 or 3 rounds. we have never just gone and had 1 round/1 pint.

Who does that? maybe normal people but i guess when there is 3 of us it is just unwritten there will be 1 round each.

GT03ROB

8,071 posts

169 months

Monday 11th February
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nealeh1875 said:
GT03ROB said:
For how many of you is the problem you can't just have 1?

So to take Welshies example of a cava at breakfast does that kick -off a day of drinking or does having 1 at lunchtime kick-off drinking all afternoon?

Can you actually stop, once you've started??
For me, if i go out with my mates, usually me and at least 1 or 2 others, there is automatically 2 or 3 rounds. we have never just gone and had 1 round/1 pint.

Who does that? maybe normal people but i guess when there is 3 of us it is just unwritten there will be 1 round each.
As I explained to Welshie that s not really the situation I'm talking about. I'm thinking more of the go for a pub lunch with a friend where you have the one, that becomes two, continues or If you are at home on your own or with the other half & it's just not possible to have one glass of wine, without it becoming one or two bottles.