What training are you doing/have you done today? (Vol.3)

[Animal]

This morning:
Deadlift 5x5 150kg (3 mins rest) 5, 5, 5, 5, 5
160 NEXT TIME!!

Barbell Row 4x12
70x12, 70x12, 70x10, 70x10

Machine Pulldown 3x10
100lbs x 10, 115lbs x 10, 115lbs x 10

EZ Curl 1x100 (bar only)

Hammer Curl 3x12
14x12, 16x12, 16x12

Machine Curl 3x12
60x10, 50x10
50x10, 40x5, 30x6, 20x6
(Drop set)

[TheJimi]

Interesting. I haven't done lat pulldowns for years. Instead I use -

Pull-ups, chins, neutral chins, pull-ups from climbing holds. I use both bodyweight and weighted versions of all the above up to +50kg.

I do variations of rows too.

Am I missing anything by omitting lat pulldowns? I don't believe I am but interested to hear opinion.

[didelydoo]

TheJimi said:

Interesting. I haven't done lat pulldowns for years. Instead I use -

Pull-ups, chins, neutral chins, pull-ups from climbing holds. I use both bodyweight and weighted versions of all the above up to +50kg.

I do variations of rows too.

Am I missing anything by omitting lat pulldowns? I don't believe I am but interested to hear opinion.

I like pull ups/chins on a bar, but I prefer the lat pull down machine TBH- I think it's is the first one I've used that lets me pull more than my BW- I feel it allows me to focus more on my lats. Pulling BW on the lat pull down feels much more intense than doing pull ups on a bar- not sure what it is- more focus and control without your body moving below you perhaps? Not being able to get into the optimal position like you can on the bar? Who knows.....

I mostly started doing them because its easier to sit right now But I think i'll keep them in over using a bar now. I can do +60kg weighted reps on a bar (so 165kg total), but doubt I could do even 120kg on the pull down.

[TheJimi]

'sakes! You had to go ten kg over me, didn't you?

B*stard!

[didelydoo]

TheJimi said:

'sakes! You had to go ten kg over me, didn't you?

B*stard!

for reps- don't miss that

You should give pull downs a try- I find them harder with the equivalent weight than using a pull up bar (you'll find what matches BW by dangling from the bar until it balances- the numbers on the stack aren't generally accurate)

[TheJimi]

didelydoo said:

TheJimi said:

'sakes! You had to go ten kg over me, didn't you?

B*stard!

for reps- don't miss that

You should give pull downs a try- I find them harder with the equivalent weight than using a pull up bar (you'll find what matches BW by dangling from the bar until it balances- the numbers on the stack aren't generally accurate)

Yes, yes, for reps. I did notice :-D

ORD will be along shortly to tell us we're not doing it with good form

Might give the lat pulldowns a bash this week then.

[ORD]

TheJimi said:

didelydoo said:

TheJimi said:

'sakes! You had to go ten kg over me, didn't you?

B*stard!

for reps- don't miss that

You should give pull downs a try- I find them harder with the equivalent weight than using a pull up bar (you'll find what matches BW by dangling from the bar until it balances- the numbers on the stack aren't generally accurate)

Yes, yes, for reps. I did notice :-D

ORD will be along shortly to tell us we're not doing it with good form

Might give the lat pulldowns a bash this week then.

Well....you would be in a tiny minority if you did weighted pull ups with anything like proper form.

I know DD does, however.

I agree on lat pull downs. I can feel them in the lats much more than pull ups or chins.

[Animal]

TheJimi said:

Interesting. I haven't done lat pulldowns for years. Instead I use -

Pull-ups, chins, neutral chins, pull-ups from climbing holds. I use both bodyweight and weighted versions of all the above up to +50kg.

I do variations of rows too.

Am I missing anything by omitting lat pulldowns? I don't believe I am but interested to hear opinion.

I did them because I'd been deadlifting/rowing and I didn't think my grip would be up to it. I'm also 10-15 kg heavier than the last time I did a volume of pullups and so I get worn out very quickly!

[Halb]

I think it's because you're doing less elsewhere, yourind thinks you are doing more in the lats, it's not getting overloaded with info.

I used to be at a gym which had hammer machine pulldown, a brilliant machine, I could really load it up. Currently I'm at a pure which has the traditional cable pulldown, I think it goes up to 127, or 134.
I've just readded the pulldown into my new weekly routine, when I do vertical pulls, it's gonna be pullups in a 5-4-3-2-1 structure, then a pulldown 1 x 10.

[TheJimi]

ORD said:

TheJimi said:

didelydoo said:

TheJimi said:

'sakes! You had to go ten kg over me, didn't you?

B*stard!

for reps- don't miss that

You should give pull downs a try- I find them harder with the equivalent weight than using a pull up bar (you'll find what matches BW by dangling from the bar until it balances- the numbers on the stack aren't generally accurate)

Yes, yes, for reps. I did notice :-D

ORD will be along shortly to tell us we're not doing it with good form

Might give the lat pulldowns a bash this week then.

Well....you would be in a tiny minority if you did weighted pull ups with anything like proper form.

I know DD does, however.

I agree on lat pull downs. I can feel them in the lats much more than pull ups or chins.

Guess I’m in a small minority then, eh?

Except, I don’t believe I am. 

I know plenty folk who can do weighted pullups and variations thereof with good form.  Sure, it’s not that common, but it’s not as rare as you think it is either.

Even bodyweight pullups – I see more people doing them with decent form than I see with bad form, and poor ROM.

[Halb]

I see lot's of guys doing partial pull-ups.
I like Pavel's pull-up, to the chest and in.

THere's also a good load of BW lads in my gym too, lots of work on the climbing frame, really impressive, skin-the-cat and levers and the like, which is what made me wanna to a back lever and StC.

[ORD]

All depends on the gyms you visit, I guess. The problem with pull ups and chins is that they are massively "cheatable" in that minor differences in form make a big difference to difficulty - a guy who can do 12 reps with perfect form might well get 15 with what passes for good form and 20 with typical gym bro form. And who doesn't want to be able to say he can do 20 pull ups?

Back on topic, I've been out of action for a few days with a flare up of my neck problem but aiming to sneak in a workout today

[mcelliott]

TheJimi said:

Yes, yes, for reps. I did notice :-D

ORD will be along shortly to tell us we're not doing it with good form

Might give the lat pulldowns a bash this week then.

Another one for pull downs I tend to use then for warm ups then as a finishing exercise (heavy weight to failure) definitely give them a go you never know your back might become as good as mine

Edited by mcelliott on Monday 8th January 14:16

[chris watton]

Back to a decent session today - took me a week of training to get back to how I was pre-Xmas..

Back Extensions - 2x30 reps

Squats - 5x12-8 reps
BB Clean and Press - 5x5-4 reps
Superset - Bench Press - 5x12-2 reps and Wide Grip Pull Ups - 5x12-8 reps
T-Bar Rows - 4x12-8 reps
Seated Pulley Row (Wide Grip) - 4x12-8 reps

[ORD]

Decent squat session today.

Squat:
8 x 115kg
5 x 125kg
3 x 135kg

DB rows: 15 x 40kg (PR)
Bench press: 8 x 90kg; 5 x 100kg (then incline DBs 27.5kg x 12)

Some press-ups, machine back stuff and split squats to finish.

Neck pain / impingement is limiting me on everything at the moment - cannot get my upper back tight enough for squats or bench press. Strangely, it limits horizontal pulling relatively little.

[smiffy180]

Hips are in agony, think I've caught that bd bug going round.
Still had a good session though finding my feet!
130kg axle clean and press
4x6 everything below:
100kg push press
32kg seated dumbbell press
32kg Incline dumbbell press
22kg dumbbell lat raise
14kg dumbbell front raise
Rear delts machine
Chest fly machine
Lat raise machine (fancied squeezing in to try it)
Seated dips
Tricep push down.

My session included 200g of vitargo which is overkill I know but easy carbs, surprisingly I feel like I could do it all over again, definitely makes a difference on the long sessions!

[Halb]

Isn't that what Peter stringfellow takes?

[smiffy180]

I have no idea lol.
It's the fastest acting carb that isn't a sugar I believe?
Not cheap but worth it imo.

[Jamie VTS]

Toughie yesterday.

Sn Grip deadlift (really hurt my thumbs doing hook grip) 6 x 3 @ 100

Workout

100 Double unders
50 sit ups
25 Sq cleans @ 50

80 DU
40 SU
20 Cleans

60 Du
30 SU
15 cleans

40 DU
20 SU
10 Cleans

20 DU
10 SU
5 Cleans


19:18

Tough workout!!

[awlp16]

Really feeling back into the swing of training now, really focusing on progressive overload, and having one week of heavier weights at 3x8 and the next lighter, at 3x12/14, but each week, each session, ensuring that I'm upping the weight. Form hasn't suffered, and I'm enjoying the different weeks.

Yesterday was legs -

Squat - 3x8 - 90kg
Leg Press - 3x8 - 280kg
Leg Extension - 3x8 - 45kg
Single Hamstring Curl - 30kg
Dumbbell Deadlift - 30kg

Alternating between dumbbell deadlift and traditional based on how my back feels. Fractured my spine years ago and have had trouble ever since, so have to be really careful with it

Today was chest -

Barbell Bench - 3x8 - 77.5kg
Pec Dec - 3x8 - 59kg
Chest Press - 3x8 - 80kg
Reverse tri pushdown - 43kg
Skull crusher - 17.5kg

Diets been spot on as well, making sure I'm eating enough, and of the right stuff!