What training are you doing/have you done today? (Vol.3)
Discussion
ashleyman said:
I’m all for keeping fit and trying to push yourself but I personally see bodybuilding as an addiction - a bad one.
The world is rarely as black and white as that, and as with most things, there’s a spectrum of extremities and bodybuilding is no different. Bodybuilding CAN be addictive, and it CAN engender unhealthy, negative aspects, but the same can be said of any sport. For example, ask Nico Rosberg what it took for him, on a personal level, to win the WDC, and ask him why he retired.
If you don’t like the idea of bodybuilding, and it’s not for you, that’s just fine – it’s all good, but it’s inherently unfair to classify an entire sport and it’s participants as you’ve just done in order to somehow reinforce and legitimise your personal opinion. I was tempted to say prejudice but let’s go with opinion
(and no, I’m not a bodybuilder)
ashleyman said:
I don’t get it.
You're kidding me! 
Edited by TheJimi on Monday 14th January 15:37
TheJimi said:
ashleyman said:
I’m all for keeping fit and trying to push yourself but I personally see bodybuilding as an addiction - a bad one.
The world is rarely as black and white as that, and as with most things, there’s a spectrum of extremities and bodybuilding is no different. Bodybuilding CAN be addictive, and it CAN engender unhealthy, negative aspects, but the same can be said of any sport. For example, ask Nico Rosberg what it took for him, on a personal level, to win the WDC, and ask him why he retired.If you don’t like it the idea of bodybuilding, and it’s not for you, that’s just fine – it’s all good, but it’s inherently unfair to classify an entire sport and it’s participants as you’ve just done in order to somehow reinforce and legitimise your personal opinion. I was tempted to say prejudice but let’s go with opinion
(and no, I’m not a bodybuilder)
ashleyman said:
I don’t get it.
You're kidding me! Perhaps I shouldn't post online and voice my opinion if I don't need my opinions legitimised, I guess perhaps my opinion is shaped by the experiences of those I'm surrounded by all of which have been bad.
To clarify, I am not saying training is bad, far from it or I'd be a hypocrite as I train on average 4x a week. I am saying that in my opinion training like the person in the Insta screenshots is probably bad and also taking any kind of unprescribed steroid is also bad.
Edited by ashleyman on Monday 14th January 15:41
Ashley, Nico R is a bad example. He is a world class elite driver, no question. The entire grid are and it's easy to think the stragglers must be a bit s
t. They aren't. Rosberg was bloody lucky to win the title. He knew it and he finished at the top.
Bodybuilding or weight training, strong man are all addictive. If they weren't you won't get much done. One measures of progress, usually(not always) by size or strength, endurance gains.
The key word when describing 'Bad' is Abuse. That can be said of anything you take, whether it be food, alcohol, drugs.
t. They aren't. Rosberg was bloody lucky to win the title. He knew it and he finished at the top.Bodybuilding or weight training, strong man are all addictive. If they weren't you won't get much done. One measures of progress, usually(not always) by size or strength, endurance gains.
The key word when describing 'Bad' is Abuse. That can be said of anything you take, whether it be food, alcohol, drugs.
You’re missing my point, Burwood.
Spend some time reading about Nico’s experiences of what it took for him to win the WDC, as I said, on a personal level. I’m not talking about his inherent skill, or that of the rest of the grid, but what he found he had to do, as an individual.
He essentially concluded that he couldn’t do that again – as it took too much out of him and he found that what he did was deeply healthy for him as a person.
I used that to illustrate the point that the pursuit of any sport can lead to unhealthy aspects.
Spend some time reading about Nico’s experiences of what it took for him to win the WDC, as I said, on a personal level. I’m not talking about his inherent skill, or that of the rest of the grid, but what he found he had to do, as an individual.
He essentially concluded that he couldn’t do that again – as it took too much out of him and he found that what he did was deeply healthy for him as a person.
I used that to illustrate the point that the pursuit of any sport can lead to unhealthy aspects.
Halb said:
In the Pumping Iron year, AhNold went from 280 to 240. From that vid earlier, his heaviest was 248 stage condition. Hulk went fro 320 to 275, but that was the golden era. THings are just weird now.
See, I just don’t believe these weights. Big Lou was not 6ft 5 and no where near 320 then or 300 on stage as he claimed during his 90s comeback. Arnold claims 188cm too. He isn’t. It’s all self promotionBurwood said:
Halb said:
In the Pumping Iron year, AhNold went from 280 to 240. From that vid earlier, his heaviest was 248 stage condition. Hulk went fro 320 to 275, but that was the golden era. THings are just weird now.
See, I just don’t believe these weights. Big Lou was not 6ft 5 and no where near 320 then or 300 on stage as he claimed during his 90s comeback. Arnold claims 188cm too. He isn’t. It’s all self promotionI think bodybuilding is what you make of it.
I love it, most people I know who do it love it too- none are miserable, fat or broken. If you're one of those, then I think blaming it on bodybuilding is an excuse for some other issue. I intend to train well in to my old age, at some point i'll cut down the intensity, most likely out of necessity from being old! But i'll still train.
If I didn't enjoy doing it, I'd not do it- it's a fantastic release, and beats any therapy going. It's certainly not a hobby for most normal people, you probably have to be a bit mad to get in to it tbh- it's hard work in the gym, with the diet, with day by day & year by year consistency- but it is it's own reward.
It's much easier to collect stamps, bird watch or go for a jog- but they're just not for me.
I love it, most people I know who do it love it too- none are miserable, fat or broken. If you're one of those, then I think blaming it on bodybuilding is an excuse for some other issue. I intend to train well in to my old age, at some point i'll cut down the intensity, most likely out of necessity from being old! But i'll still train.
If I didn't enjoy doing it, I'd not do it- it's a fantastic release, and beats any therapy going. It's certainly not a hobby for most normal people, you probably have to be a bit mad to get in to it tbh- it's hard work in the gym, with the diet, with day by day & year by year consistency- but it is it's own reward.
It's much easier to collect stamps, bird watch or go for a jog- but they're just not for me.
didelydoo said:
I think bodybuilding is what you make of it.
I love it, most people I know who do it love it too- none are miserable, fat or broken. If you're one of those, then I think blaming it on bodybuilding is an excuse for some other issue. I intend to train well in to my old age, at some point i'll cut down the intensity, most likely out of necessity from being old! But i'll still train.
If I didn't enjoy doing it, I'd not do it- it's a fantastic release, and beats any therapy going. It's certainly not a hobby for most normal people, you probably have to be a bit mad to get in to it tbh- it's hard work in the gym, with the diet, with day by day & year by year consistency- but it is it's own reward.
It's much easier to collect stamps, bird watch or go for a jog- but they're just not for me.
I agree with this. I love it, most people I know who do it love it too- none are miserable, fat or broken. If you're one of those, then I think blaming it on bodybuilding is an excuse for some other issue. I intend to train well in to my old age, at some point i'll cut down the intensity, most likely out of necessity from being old! But i'll still train.
If I didn't enjoy doing it, I'd not do it- it's a fantastic release, and beats any therapy going. It's certainly not a hobby for most normal people, you probably have to be a bit mad to get in to it tbh- it's hard work in the gym, with the diet, with day by day & year by year consistency- but it is it's own reward.
It's much easier to collect stamps, bird watch or go for a jog- but they're just not for me.
Part of the problem is that it is most of the people who call themselves bodybuilders are nutters, but there are plenty of people who wouldnt use that term but who are, in an objective sense, bodybuilders. They are lifting to gain muscle and look good more than they are lifting for performance. They may not compete, but they are still bodybuilding.
DD is a fine example of someone sane who is also an actual and self-confessed BB.
Today:
Bench Press working up to 2 singles at 130kg
Weighted Dips 3 sets of 4-6 reps + 30kg
Barbell High Pull 4x5 at 60kg
Overhead Rope Extension 3x30
A good lunchtime session. I think a few more weeks of singles and doubles and I'll be ready to drop back down to 100kg and see if I can get 10 reps.
Bench Press working up to 2 singles at 130kg
Weighted Dips 3 sets of 4-6 reps + 30kg
Barbell High Pull 4x5 at 60kg
Overhead Rope Extension 3x30
A good lunchtime session. I think a few more weeks of singles and doubles and I'll be ready to drop back down to 100kg and see if I can get 10 reps.
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