What training are you doing/have you done today? (Vol.3)

What training are you doing/have you done today? (Vol.3)

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didelydoo

5,528 posts

210 months

Saturday 13th April 2019
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st happens- could have gone either way. Just went the wrong one this time.

Imo- fk it, jump on and go at it full tilt. It’s the only way to get the ultimate you.

Of course, it’s your call- and not something I’d ever, ever encourage. But you don’t many shots to make a mark, and you’ve massive potential.

That’s my 2p

smiffy180

6,018 posts

150 months

Saturday 13th April 2019
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DD just going to try the HCG first, if it fixes me it saves me a lot of money in the long run, the temptation is there though believe me haha.

The rest of the events though I think I could've made points up on, quite a few couldn't do a full 30m with 320kg frame, 380kg yoke was average 45s, there was 24/25 then 45+.
Car hold approx 300kg sub 30s for most.
300x6 deadlift would've seen me 3rd place, I believe which was doable based on training.
If today had gone like training then it would've been a good day for me.

All ifs and buts though. Get myself sorted and no excuses next time.

smiffy180

6,018 posts

150 months

Saturday 13th April 2019
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I do have 2 decent photos at least biggrin
Sitting around 150kg, going to diet back down to 140ish I think.


popeyewhite

19,875 posts

120 months

Saturday 13th April 2019
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smiffy180 said:
DD just going to try the HCG first, if it fixes me it saves me ...
I'm afraid it won't. It will bring your nuts back to full size and functioning but 'normal' working order will still require full PCT (or a few months) as there is far more involved in natural test production than just normal testicles. You have two choices - as DD suggests you could just go for it, if you do this make sure you include something Deca based as its collagen repairing abilities are well documented... or take another long rest and get things sorted. Learn not to think about entering a comp under prepared and carrying an injury. It's a hard lesson to learn but if you take it on board you'll come back stronger both physically and mentally. F*ck knows what you were thinking.

Yeah yeah fk off Popeye hehe

biggbn

23,340 posts

220 months

Sunday 14th April 2019
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Hey man, things didn't work out..but you stepped up, which is more than most will ever do. Congratulations, and all the best for the future regardless of which path you take. Gbn

smiffy180

6,018 posts

150 months

Sunday 14th April 2019
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popeyewhite said:
I'm afraid it won't. It will bring your nuts back to full size and functioning but 'normal' working order will still require full PCT (or a few months) as there is far more involved in natural test production than just normal testicles. You have two choices - as DD suggests you could just go for it, if you do this make sure you include something Deca based as its collagen repairing abilities are well documented... or take another long rest and get things sorted. Learn not to think about entering a comp under prepared and carrying an injury. It's a hard lesson to learn but if you take it on board you'll come back stronger both physically and mentally. F*ck knows what you were thinking.

Yeah yeah fk off Popeye hehe
It's my friend that wants to try this first to rule out secondary hypoganoidism.
If it doesn't work it doesn't work but for the sake of £20 might as well.
He said it should bring my levels back up and either stay up or drop. If it drops or doesn't come up at all its straight to TRT.

It's a once a year opportunity comp this one, I wasn't going to pull out with a dodgy bicep hah!

popeyewhite

19,875 posts

120 months

Sunday 14th April 2019
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smiffy180 said:
It's my friend that wants to try this first to rule out secondary hypoganoidism.
If it doesn't work it doesn't work but for the sake of £20 might as well.
It might work if the treatment lasts 2-3 months. Cost more than £20! Or try 3 weeks HCG, then 3 weeks Clomid 20mg ED.

smiffy180

6,018 posts

150 months

Sunday 14th April 2019
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popeyewhite said:
It might work if the treatment lasts 2-3 months. Cost more than £20! Or try 3 weeks HCG, then 3 weeks Clomid 20mg ED.
Yeah I found out after posting laugh
Grabbing 6x 5000iu boxes and 120x 20mg tamoxifen.
Roughly £160 total.

He's sent over the diet plan to sort out the rest of my bloods and writing up the blood analysis and what he recommends currently.
He's doing it as if I'm a client rather than a friend which is why I'm not getting full info over messages and then finding out as and when he gets chance to reply the rest of the info needed before I buy too little/much.


didelydoo

5,528 posts

210 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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Pull day>

Pendlay rows: 140kg x 7, 160kg x 4
BB rows: 200x 10
Cable Row: 1x RPF
High Cable Row: 1x RPF
EZ preacher: 21's
Reverse EZ: 3x F

Pendlay's are new, reasonable day over all.

Animal

5,249 posts

268 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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Squat: Bar x 10, 60 x 3, 90 x 3, 105 x 3, 117.5 x 6
Leg press 5x15 (200kg)
Had really severe soreness in my lower back whilst squatting, almost to the point of feeling like I was going to pull a muscle - poor form, or just a weak area?

TheJimi

24,992 posts

243 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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didelydoo said:
Pull day>

Pendlay rows: 140kg x 7, 160kg x 4
BB rows: 200x 10
Cable Row: 1x RPF
High Cable Row: 1x RPF
EZ preacher: 21's
Reverse EZ: 3x F

Pendlay's are new, reasonable day over all.
Surprised at so much rowing based stuff in one session - especially BORs *and* Pendlays!

On that note though, I love Pendlays. I started doing them a few months ago. Probably one of my favourite movements. If 140kg and 160kg is properly strict and from a dead stop each time, then that's impressive smile

didelydoo

5,528 posts

210 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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TheJimi said:
Surprised at so much rowing based stuff in one session - especially BORs *and* Pendlays!

On that note though, I love Pendlays. I started doing them a few months ago. Probably one of my favourite movements. If 140kg and 160kg is properly strict and from a dead stop each time, then that's impressive smile
My other Pull day is a little more pull up/down orientated.
Here's the pendlays- https://www.instagram.com/p/BwRBlGpjdps/ - They're as strict as I could get them, and from a dead stop- have a gander.

TheJimi

24,992 posts

243 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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Stricter than I thought it would be, tbh.  Some reps were stricter than others – you’re obviously still getting dialled into the technique.

I’ve never seen anyone (in the flesh) do Pendlays with over 100kg without making it look like a Pendlay/BOR/Deadlift hybrid  hehe


didelydoo

5,528 posts

210 months

Tuesday 16th April 2019
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TheJimi said:
Stricter than I thought it would be, tbh.  Some reps were stricter than others – you’re obviously still getting dialled into the technique.

I’ve never seen anyone (in the flesh) do Pendlays with over 100kg without making it look like a Pendlay/BOR/Deadlift hybrid  hehe
I wasn't actually sure how i'm supposed to do them- some people seem real bent over with bent legs, some with straighter legs. But a torso at 90deg seems to be the common point. I watched a few vids after, so have a reasonable idea- I still think a bit of torso movement is inevitable at heavier loads though, but i'll see how it goes next time!

Regiment

2,799 posts

159 months

Tuesday 16th April 2019
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If testosterone levels that low are causing you issues, i can't see why they wouldn't be, i'd definitely have a look at something like TRT and more than just a HCG mono-therapy. On the bright side, you could always start competing as a woman if you're Test levels are always below 10?

edit: Just seen your other replies, goodluck and hopefully you get it sorted. I felt like absolute crap and my Test levels were generally at around 11 first thing in the morning.

Edited by Regiment on Tuesday 16th April 14:30

gregs656

10,882 posts

181 months

Tuesday 16th April 2019
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It was yesterday but did Russian dips again yesterday and was much better. Lots of room for growth there I think.

ORD

18,120 posts

127 months

Tuesday 16th April 2019
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didelydoo said:
I wasn't actually sure how i'm supposed to do them- some people seem real bent over with bent legs, some with straighter legs. But a torso at 90deg seems to be the common point. I watched a few vids after, so have a reasonable idea- I still think a bit of torso movement is inevitable at heavier loads though, but i'll see how it goes next time!
I agree. I am the resident form nutter and still do not think it is possible to have no back movement on Pendlay once it gets well above bodyweight.

smiffy180

6,018 posts

150 months

Tuesday 16th April 2019
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Regiment said:
If testosterone levels that low are causing you issues, i can't see why they wouldn't be, i'd definitely have a look at something like TRT and more than just a HCG mono-therapy. On the bright side, you could always start competing as a woman if you're Test levels are always below 10?

edit: Just seen your other replies, goodluck and hopefully you get it sorted. I felt like absolute crap and my Test levels were generally at around 11 first thing in the morning.

Edited by Regiment on Tuesday 16th April 14:30
Cheers.
I feel a bit less me currently, should be sorted in next few weeks to normal whilst on HCH unless I don't work at all but I think that's unlikely given I have 2 kids as well.
We'll see!

smiffy180

6,018 posts

150 months

Tuesday 16th April 2019
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ORD said:
didelydoo said:
I wasn't actually sure how i'm supposed to do them- some people seem real bent over with bent legs, some with straighter legs. But a torso at 90deg seems to be the common point. I watched a few vids after, so have a reasonable idea- I still think a bit of torso movement is inevitable at heavier loads though, but i'll see how it goes next time!
I agree. I am the resident form nutter and still do not think it is possible to have no back movement on Pendlay once it gets well above bodyweight.
I always thought pendlays had a slight bit of movement anyway.

TheJimi

24,992 posts

243 months

Tuesday 16th April 2019
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ORD said:
didelydoo said:
I wasn't actually sure how i'm supposed to do them- some people seem real bent over with bent legs, some with straighter legs. But a torso at 90deg seems to be the common point. I watched a few vids after, so have a reasonable idea- I still think a bit of torso movement is inevitable at heavier loads though, but i'll see how it goes next time!
I agree. I am the resident form nutter and still do not think it is possible to have no back movement on Pendlay once it gets well above bodyweight.
DD's reps were pretty clean, all things considered. Some of reps had very little back movement. I reckon he could do that weight properly strict after a bit more training on the movement.

(sorry to refer in the third person, Ben!)

I'm not really a form-stasi, per-se. I tend to take the view that if the fundamentals are nailed, folk can do what works best for them.

But with Pendlays, if you've got that bouncing back thing going on, you'd be as well just doing BORS (and accepting they're not strict) coz the further you get from strict, the more you defeat the purpose of Pendlays - imo.


Edited by TheJimi on Tuesday 16th April 20:35