What training are you doing/have you done today? (Vol.3)
Discussion
Halb said:
I recall when I did RDs as my staple lift, it made me super strong in the back and it was when I got my deadlifts PBs. But in comparison I was 'weak' off the floor, once it got going though I could rep out super weight.
I have always been quite strong off the ground so my thinking is improve the weak link. I won't be deadlifting 'heavy' anytime in.near future, would be more than happy getting full dl back to @220/240 for reps. But that's a way away for now!!Mace work in the back garden (split into two sessions, due to some "functional" training, helping my neighbour shift some kitchen white goods)
Working up from the sledgehammer, through the maces, with a range of movements.
I managed to do sets of 360s with a 900mm 14.5Kg mace for the first time. It doesn't sound much, but there is quite a lot of leverage to counteract with only 81Kg of body.
OK, so it's not powerlifting, and doesn't produce number, but it does work pretty much every muscle in conjunction and balance to produce a rotational/anti rotational "core of steel" in all planes and a good grip.
Working up from the sledgehammer, through the maces, with a range of movements.
I managed to do sets of 360s with a 900mm 14.5Kg mace for the first time. It doesn't sound much, but there is quite a lot of leverage to counteract with only 81Kg of body.
OK, so it's not powerlifting, and doesn't produce number, but it does work pretty much every muscle in conjunction and balance to produce a rotational/anti rotational "core of steel" in all planes and a good grip.
Delivered course all day, back at school tomorrow, was sitting knackered so popped to gym, quick 30 minute shoulder session. Lost a load of strength in my time away but it should come back in next few months with some consistency. Tyre flip cardio day tomorrow and will fit in three runs. Need to get weight back in check!!
didelydoo said:
I'd never SG- I've seen what happens when there's a tiny slip- It's not something that's common, but it happens. It also feels really weird to me, i like gripping the bar hard.
I think you need to separate yourself from 'normal' people though.Firstly, people focus on the 'suicide' and not on the 'grip' - you *do* grip the bar; it's not just some dainty balancing act from which the bar is doomed to roll.
Secondly, I don;'t think I'm alone amongst amateur lifters to use it in the lighter ranges, because it really does offer most people the most ideal wrist position. Up to 100kg bench press, if you can push that you should be able to grip the bar sufficiently too. Over that, I'll bring the thumb in too, but that is in reassurance - because I lift alone - rather than efficiency.
I also use it for OHP - it creates so much nicer a wrist position. I don't know what kind of ceiling I'd suggest for that - I'm not that strong in OHP and at 60kg the SG is fine.
But you, Mr Didely, you're playing a completely different game to (most) of the rest of us, well beyond where folk who enjoy a bit of day-to-day strength training operate, so for you, different rules will apply.
ORD said:
The bar feels safe in your palm until it doesn't. If you watch bench press accidents, the bar just goes without warning.
You could apply that logic just about anything though.Think of an exercise variation now google it with the word “accident” after it. You’ll be there ‘till the cows come home.
It was me that first suggested SG in the context above, and while I agree that it carries a level of risk over conventional grip, but like many things, correct technique plays a big part.
Here’s an interesting article, although, I don’t doubt you could unearth another article that that proclaims it’s use is suicidal
https://www.t-nation.com/training/the-suicide-grip...
TheJimi said:
You could apply that logic just about anything though.
Think of an exercise variation now google it with the word “accident” after it. You’ll be there ‘till the cows come home.
It was me that first suggested SG in the context above, and while I agree that it carries a level of risk over conventional grip, but like many things, correct technique plays a big part.
Here’s an interesting article, although, I don’t doubt you could unearth another article that that proclaims it’s use is suicidal
https://www.t-nation.com/training/the-suicide-grip...
Very true. Whether the extra risk is worth taking will depend, as ever.Think of an exercise variation now google it with the word “accident” after it. You’ll be there ‘till the cows come home.
It was me that first suggested SG in the context above, and while I agree that it carries a level of risk over conventional grip, but like many things, correct technique plays a big part.
Here’s an interesting article, although, I don’t doubt you could unearth another article that that proclaims it’s use is suicidal
https://www.t-nation.com/training/the-suicide-grip...
If shoulder problems are the reason to be concerned about grip, a football bar is quite good. I have one. My only gripe with it is that it’s hard as hell at heavier weights. Above about 80% of 1RM, the problem becomes balancing the bar back to front, rather than pressing it up. Maybe (probably) I’m just a weakling.
I started doing 5x5 in January mostly with an empty bar. Now at the stage where every workout involves a pb and failing something or another. Having to do 3 min breaks every time too.
Today was:
90kg squat
37.5kg over head press
105kg deadlift
Any motivation/advice for not dreading workouts?
Today was:
90kg squat
37.5kg over head press
105kg deadlift
Any motivation/advice for not dreading workouts?
WinstonR said:
I started doing 5x5 in January mostly with an empty bar. Now at the stage where every workout involves a pb and failing something or another. Having to do 3 min breaks every time too.
Today was:
90kg squat
37.5kg over head press
105kg deadlift
Any motivation/advice for not dreading workouts?
Switch to a programme based off slower progress and broader rep ranges. 5/3/1 for beginners, for example.Today was:
90kg squat
37.5kg over head press
105kg deadlift
Any motivation/advice for not dreading workouts?
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