What training are you doing/have you done today? (Vol.3)
Discussion
didelydoo said:
Running when you’re heavy takes it’s toll given time. Best. To focus on shorter fast stints.
However- some form of cardio vastly improves recovery, performance and energy creation efficiency- just for heavy guys, lower impact stuff is best
Heavy's a very individual thing though - I feel 'heavy' at c.95kg and about 5'10", but a guy like Alex Viada is 6'3 and about 110kg and he does long trail runs, ultras etc. I think training history, mechanics and body sympathy play a huge part.However- some form of cardio vastly improves recovery, performance and energy creation efficiency- just for heavy guys, lower impact stuff is best
Animal said:
didelydoo said:
Running when you’re heavy takes it’s toll given time. Best. To focus on shorter fast stints.
However- some form of cardio vastly improves recovery, performance and energy creation efficiency- just for heavy guys, lower impact stuff is best
Heavy's a very individual thing though - I feel 'heavy' at c.95kg and about 5'10", but a guy like Alex Viada is 6'3 and about 110kg and he does long trail runs, ultras etc. I think training history, mechanics and body sympathy play a huge part.However- some form of cardio vastly improves recovery, performance and energy creation efficiency- just for heavy guys, lower impact stuff is best
You see I understand, and respect, someone has learned has said that, but physics and biology aren't really up for debate are they?
I mean, there's a hell of a lot more force going through your joints when you smash down 110kg than at 55kg, and the structures are made from the same materials and, save for some freak of genetics, the scale isn't even proportionate to that level of weight. You don't have double the supporting structures just because you're double the weight. The chances are you have a large upper body, which just works against you in running. That's before we get into the energy expenditure at shifting that huge mass.
All other things being equal it strikes me as obvious the heavy chap will be having a harder time of it. Although no doubt with dedication and training he could equal someone lighter, same as a smaller blokes sufficiently trained and dedicated can lift staggering amounts.
I mean, there's a hell of a lot more force going through your joints when you smash down 110kg than at 55kg, and the structures are made from the same materials and, save for some freak of genetics, the scale isn't even proportionate to that level of weight. You don't have double the supporting structures just because you're double the weight. The chances are you have a large upper body, which just works against you in running. That's before we get into the energy expenditure at shifting that huge mass.
All other things being equal it strikes me as obvious the heavy chap will be having a harder time of it. Although no doubt with dedication and training he could equal someone lighter, same as a smaller blokes sufficiently trained and dedicated can lift staggering amounts.
Animal said:
Heavy's a very individual thing though - I feel 'heavy' at c.95kg and about 5'10", but a guy like Alex Viada is 6'3 and about 110kg and he does long trail runs, ultras etc. I think training history, mechanics and body sympathy play a huge part.
Problem is that extrapolating from genetic freaks makes everything seem possible! Prof Prolapse said:
All other things being equal it strikes me as obvious the heavy chap will be having a harder time of it.
Yes, it's common sense, and the perceived wisdom until a Canadian study showed little difference between a heavy or light person and knee wear. A hugely overweight person might be different. All weight bearing exercise produces more synovial fluid, and knee cartilage is now known to be adaptive...the amount of adaptation seems to correlate to bodyweight. Anyway I gave up running after a long and glittering competitive career in which my best place in a race was 54. 55 ran, and a man and his dog (seriously) overtook me.
ORD said:
I’m average weight - 5’11 and 87kg
But even when I was much lighter - 77kg or so, it still wasn’t great.
87kg or so is my target weight after weight loss, and my friends asked me why I've stopped running. It hurt my hips! It's cycling and an elliptical for me now. Much less jarring on my older body.But even when I was much lighter - 77kg or so, it still wasn’t great.
I've dropped about 16kg since January, and it's shifting a little more each month, but I'm not rushing it and I can still have a beer now and again - so long as I've trained a lot to justify it.
Anyway, today's training was,
1h on the elliptical at 200W. That meant I had to change my absolutely sodden shirt and shorts immediately after, as I was dripping everywhere! Then I continued with 2 circuits on resistance machines.
According to my watch, I burned 1,000cal, but I also lost 1kg in sweat, again!
RC1807 said:
According to my watch, I burned 1,000cal, but I also lost 1kg in sweat, again!
I do love the Garmin estimated sweat loss. Far more amusing measure of the intensity of my exercise than calories burned! I'm sure it's probably not very accurate, but it does make me chuckle.
I thought I'd try Creatine tablets today since they're cheap and there's some evidence base suggesting they're not basically magic beans.
How many do you take?
I read a literature review saying 20g/day for a week or so (followed by a maintenance dose), but that's f
king mental, they're like horse tablets at 1g.
Any suggestions?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC39632...
How many do you take?
I read a literature review saying 20g/day for a week or so (followed by a maintenance dose), but that's f
king mental, they're like horse tablets at 1g.Any suggestions?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC39632...
Prof Prolapse said:
Any suggestions?
https://www.myprotein.com/sports-nutrition/creapure-creatine-powder/10529740.htmlNo need to load, just do the maintenance dose. Drink with a banana about 40 mins before a workout, though I don't think there's any evidence it matters what time of day it's taken as long as creatine stores are saturated. The stuff works if you want to add the odd rep.
Bit of a long shot but there was someone on here who used to buy these dragonball z tanks cheap online. To that person, where did you get it from?
I can only find 1 seller on ebay but I don't think this was the original seller as the original one had tons and tons of different types of tops/vests from all sorts of anime.
I can only find 1 seller on ebay but I don't think this was the original seller as the original one had tons and tons of different types of tops/vests from all sorts of anime.
elvismiggell said:
RC1807 said:
According to my watch, I burned 1,000cal, but I also lost 1kg in sweat, again!
I do love the Garmin estimated sweat loss. Far more amusing measure of the intensity of my exercise than calories burned! I'm sure it's probably not very accurate, but it does make me chuckle.
ambuletz said:
Bit of a long shot but there was someone on here who used to buy these dragonball z tanks cheap online. To that person, where did you get it from?
I can only find 1 seller on ebay but I don't think this was the original seller as the original one had tons and tons of different types of tops/vests from all sorts of anime.
That was Halb.I can only find 1 seller on ebay but I don't think this was the original seller as the original one had tons and tons of different types of tops/vests from all sorts of anime.
Haven't seen him around in a long time
hyphen said:
elvismiggell said:
RC1807 said:
According to my watch, I burned 1,000cal, but I also lost 1kg in sweat, again!
I do love the Garmin estimated sweat loss. Far more amusing measure of the intensity of my exercise than calories burned! I'm sure it's probably not very accurate, but it does make me chuckle.
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