People living longer... or not...?

People living longer... or not...?

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Shay HTFC

3,588 posts

189 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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Henners said:
Good point.

I think there's a difference between being big - 100kg, and so big that if you don't do something you're going to die too.

I work with a lady who's about 350lbs and really struggles day to day, yet has a bacon sandwich each morning and crisps with a brown lunch and red coke.

At some point you must go 'this can't go on', but it seems that some people don't have that thought.
I'd put money on it that by that stage they think that getting fit again is a totally futile aim, so just say sod it and carry on eating their comfort foods.

Henners

12,230 posts

194 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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Shay HTFC said:
Henners said:
Good point.

I think there's a difference between being big - 100kg, and so big that if you don't do something you're going to die too.

I work with a lady who's about 350lbs and really struggles day to day, yet has a bacon sandwich each morning and crisps with a brown lunch and red coke.

At some point you must go 'this can't go on', but it seems that some people don't have that thought.
I'd put money on it that by that stage they think that getting fit again is a totally futile aim, so just say sod it and carry on eating their comfort foods.
Probably.

Reddit’s /r/loseit would set them straight tho smile

Mothersruin

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8,573 posts

99 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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Watch 'Secret Eaters'.

It's usually a combination of denial and delusion.

They're asked at the start what they think their calorie intake is. They all, without fail, think it's at least half of the reality.

gothatway

5,783 posts

170 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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RDMcG said:
I am nearly 70 and able to function completely but I am clear that I will not be doing laps of the Nordschleife in one of my cars at 80.
If you've still got a GT3, hand me the keys and I'll take you round smilesmile

irc

7,311 posts

136 months

Tuesday 29th May 2018
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smn159 said:
geeks said:
Well the OP is allowed to call 95% of a local population fat but god forbid someone question his physique?? Yes I’m overweight seeing as you’re so interested! 6’1 and 100kgs so heavy but not fat.
That suggests a BMI of 29, which puts you at the very top end of being overweight. A BMI of 30 and over is considered obese.
Keeping the fatty risk in perspective, one study assesses the mortality risk from being obese is less than the risk from being teetotal.

"In fact, the increased mortality risk for people who are obese (but not severely obese) is slightly lower than the risks associated with being teetotal (27%)."

The same study suggests beneficial moderate drinking as 26 units per week compared to the UK nanny state 14 units.

https://velvetgloveironfist.blogspot.com/2018/05/f...


The five steps for a long life are (according to the study -

Not smoking
2. A healthy diet
3. At least 30 minutes of daily physical activity
4. A body mass index between 18.5 and 24.9
5. Moderate alcohol consumption

Worked for my dad. Died at 90 after being healthy and active until 89. Very active as a young man - cycling, mountaineering, golf, and continued walking round the golf course 3 times a week until he was 88.


millen

688 posts

86 months

Tuesday 29th May 2018
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Trouble is, there are influential people who believe the obese should be allowed to work from home as they find it 'too difficult' to get to work, so they can sit grazing all day if it pleases them. Barmy ideas like this have an uncomfortable tendency to take root......
https://metro.co.uk/2018/05/26/obese-employees-sho...

RDMcG

19,153 posts

207 months

Tuesday 29th May 2018
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gothatway said:
If you've still got a GT3, hand me the keys and I'll take you round smilesmile
I still will have a few of them I expectsmile. Probably the 992 RS will be the last new addition to the garage. At some point it gets beyond madness.

At least i did buy a pipe and slippers car in January. Never had a station wagon before and its quite comfortable......................

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Thursday 31st May 2018
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From reading the article, it could also be titled, 'non-fatties but metabolically unhealthy women' more likely to develop cardiovascular disease.

best top be 'healthy weight' and have no metabolic diseases.

human physiology just needs more and ongoing research

Henners

12,230 posts

194 months

Thursday 31st May 2018
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Halb said:
From reading the article, it could also be titled, 'non-fatties but metabolically unhealthy women' more likely to develop cardiovascular disease.

best top be 'healthy weight' and have no metabolic diseases.

human physiology just needs more and ongoing research
I think their focus is on what can be changed - I.e lose the heft. Also I’d guess at there being more fatties than people with metabolic disorders.

Good though that they’re combating the lazy, convenient thought that you can be fat and fit as a fiddle in the long term.

Life in the UK would be hell with me in power, all exciting food banned and enforced park runs, obesity following smoking as being socially unacceptable hehe

Terminator X

15,084 posts

204 months

Thursday 31st May 2018
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Henners said:
I work with a lady who's about 350lbs and really struggles day to day, yet has a bacon sandwich each morning and crisps with a brown lunch and red coke.
That can't be it though, she must also east sweets, donuts etc until they burst out of her ears ... cals in vs cals out is all it is after all.

TX.

Mothersruin

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8,573 posts

99 months

Thursday 31st May 2018
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Terminator X said:
Henners said:
I work with a lady who's about 350lbs and really struggles day to day, yet has a bacon sandwich each morning and crisps with a brown lunch and red coke.
That can't be it though, she must also east sweets, donuts etc until they burst out of her ears ... cals in vs cals out is all it is after all.

TX.
Had a guy work for me, Egytian fella, 150kgs, his (tiny) wife would try and put him on all sorts of diets to the piont where she'd prepare and pack meals for him - he'd eat those by 10am. He'd disappear for a while every now and again, a bit like a smoker popping out, but you'd not see him eat anything else during the day - we were in an office block with a cake shop and a Burger King downstairs...

He got bigger in the time I worked with him.

Wouldn't exercise as everything hurt his ankles (gravity is a bh) and couldn't swim.

Lied to himself and to the people he apparently loved - he'll be dead by 60, if not earlier.

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Thursday 31st May 2018
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Henners said:
I think their focus is on what can be changed - I.e lose the heft. Also I’d guess at there being more fatties than people with metabolic disorders.

Good though that they’re combating the lazy, convenient thought that you can be fat and fit as a fiddle in the long term.

Life in the UK would be hell with me in power, all exciting food banned and enforced park runs, obesity following smoking as being socially unacceptable hehe
Those passive crumbs are a killer biggrin

Henners

12,230 posts

194 months

Thursday 31st May 2018
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hehe