PH Losers 2019 - Anyone want to join me?

[LosingGrip]

Using MFP again...little bit scary. I was making some wraps, breaded chicken, lettuce, bit of ketchup and tiny bit of cheese.

In the chicken alone its 47% of my fat target a day...in three bits! Very scary. 1,000 calories in total for lunch...think I've found my problem ha.

Dinner I've got some chicken sausages, veg and rice...I'm scared to check on MFP ha.

[Robmarriott]

The thing I found when using MFP before was it would make me under eat significantly and obsess over each calorie. On one hand it's a great tool, on the other it can cause dangerous problems.

It's good to spot a problem with what you're eating, be it portion size, certain ingredients or whatever but I think using it constantly is a mistake. (Just my opinion though)

[LosingGrip]

Yeah I had that a few years ago. Lost six stone but made myself ill with calorie counting etc. Won't go to that extreme, but its useful to find out what I believed was healthy, wasn't! Will find something else to stick in the wrap rather than breaded chicken...maybe just normal chicken breast.

[Coolbanana]

Lemming Train said:

Dear old LT, don't ascribe everything you read on the Internet from Experts you like as Gospel

You don't need to over-complicate everything, unless there is an underlying medical condition, the basics work just as they always have since the dawn of Humankind.

I realise you have taken a dislike to my posts on PH generally, but toughen up, stop being emotionally weak. I know I can be annoying at times, I was banned from that other Thread for teasing you, I get it. It's just a Forum on the Internet, lighten up, it ain't personal, it ain't serious.

Edited by Coolbanana on Thursday 25th April 17:02

[Lemming Train]

Coolbanana said:

Dear old LT, don't ascribe everything you read on the Internet from Experts you like as Gospel

You don't need to over-complicate everything, unless there is an underlying medical condition, the basics work just as they always have since the dawn of Humankind.

Except it doesn't work at all, as proven by several medical studies which I've previously linked to. Even in this thread alone there's pretty much all the evidence (at least anecdotally) one could ever want. From a quick glance at least 90% of those in the 'off the wagon' table were doing calorie restriction and have given up because their weight loss stopped and/or it was too hard. Of the remaining 'players' the majority are also doing some form of calorie restriction and we now see week after week of no losses or miniscule losses like 0.5 lb which is just a good bowel movement and even people putting the weight back on. Why? Because calorie restriction doesn't work! A few months of losses on the scales until your BMR artifically adjusts itself to compensate for you starving your body of calories and then the losses stop. The only reason it has worked for you is because by your own admission you are doing 4-5 hours of high intensity training every day so you're burning off the fat before it even gets chance to be stored. You could stuff your face with take-aways, beer and ice cream every day and still lose (or at least maintain) your weight; it's got nothing to do with calorie restriction. No normal person is going to be in a position to do 4-5 hours of high intensity training every day and most folks with a full-time job are likely to struggle to do 4-5 hours in an entire week.

The only people "over-complicating everything" are those such as yourself with your CICO nonsense . I eat what I want, I fast for a day or two. Simple, easy, complete control over my weight and a method that has been proven to work since caveman days thousands of years ago where they'd often have to go for days or weeks without eating if their hunt for food was unsuccessful. It clearly worked then - otherwise the human species would have died out and we wouldn't be here today - and it still works today. No cost, no effort, no requirement for calculators and phone apps to measure how many calories I'm consuming and no need to flog myself to death down the gym every waking hour in a desperate attempt to make the scales move. The moment you cut the exercise all the weight you've lost will start to pile straight back on.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&.... Bottom of page 82.

Coolbanana said:

I realise you have taken a dislike to my posts on PH generally, but toughen up, stop being emotionally weak. I know I can be annoying at times, I was banned from that other Thread for teasing you, I get it. It's just a Forum on the Internet, lighten up, it ain't personal, it ain't serious.

I saw your post in a quote and it didn't even register on my radar. I think your ban from the thread was probably more to do with you posting hysterical and uneducated climate change nonsense, much like you do with your uneducated CICO nonsense in this and the keto threads . The only reason I have taken a dislike to your posts is because you have a tendency to post opinion as fact and - especially in this thread - are leading people who are desperate to lose weight down a dead-end road with your CICO guff. I'm not an expert and will never claim to be one but I've spent many many hours researching the subject from a wide variety of sources and official medical studies that have been done, also reading up on the biology and chemistry of how the human body works, how food is processed and a full understanding of the hormonal triggers that occur when you do and don't eat, hence why I will often challenge you when I see you posting your CICO pish as I can back it up with facts - something that I've yet to see you do (note: doing 4-5 hours HIT every day is not "proof" that CICO works).

[mooseracer]

"I eat what I want,"

Except when what you want is alcohol, pizza and ice cream and then the weight goes back on. Funnily enough when you cut that carp out it comes off, nothing remarkable there.

[LosingGrip]

3.45k on the treadmill in 30 minutes. Quite a bit less than last time thinking about it. But I really wasn't feeling it. Glad I went though.

Couple of days off from the gym now. Got to be good eating wise, I look after my brother tonight and tomorrow and its easy to raid his chocolate draw...

Food wise today. I've gone back to Weetabix for breakfast instead of Frosties. It's boring, horrible but it needs doing. Frosties can be my treat .

Lunch is chicken wraps...not breaded chicken this time, chicken breast instead.

Dinner last night was really nice and filling. Two chicken sausages, rice and veg. Tiny bit of cheese and ketchup. Bonus is I can do it the day before, stick it in a box and take it to work the next day (bonus of being a delivery driver with a fridge and freezer on the van!). What is reheated rice like?

[TheK1981]

Been a lazy sod over the last 3 weeks, lost 4.5kg right at the beginning in Jan, was slowing putting it back on, lost some, then did nothing over Easter and managed to gain 2kg over the last 3 weeks,

I have motivation in that a friends stag weekend is now booked in Spain for September and we are planning to do loads.

Will aim for 1 kg a week until the end of May, then half a kg for until im down to 85.

[Craikeybaby]

Lemming Train said:

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

The progress table is starting to look dusty again in places. No status updates in over 3 weeks :

Craikeybaby
EarlOfHazard
HarryFlatters
IN51GHT
LL1993
Mr Obertshaw
paulguitar
Peanut Gallery
Red-5
rigga
Rushjob
seyre1972
Smitters
Steve91

All fallen off and to be moved to the 'given up' table?

Emicen and MHB also about the drop off the radar too;.

The remaining active 'player' list is starting to look rather sparse.

Not given up, just rarely on this section of PH on a device I can update the table with.

[Robmarriott]

Craikeybaby said:

Not given up, just rarely on this section of PH on a device I can update the table with.

Happy to update for you if you post the numbers here

[Robmarriott]

LosingGrip said:

Lunch is chicken wraps...not breaded chicken this time, chicken breast instead.

What else are you putting in them? I love a chicken wrap.

[LosingGrip]

Robmarriott said:

What else are you putting in them? I love a chicken wrap.

Just chicken, lettuce and a tiny bit of cheese, ketchup and a bit of pepper.

Was really nice with chicken breast. Cooked two and cut them up, could get away with just one I think.

[STO]

I`m still here 400g loss this week slow and steady
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[wjb]

my big push didn't go well, up 500g to 98kg.

Think I performed well in my two training sessions though, and I don't feel like I've been run over by an bus after sparring anymore, more like an medium SUV, so that's a bonus

[J4CKO]

Come down a bit this week, 3 pounds but mainly just down to a change.

Am going to avoid drinking until my holiday, can I do the next 89 days without booze ? managed January quite easily and I find I cant lose weight when alcohol is involved. I am determined to get into the nice clothes I bought for our last holiday 2 years ago when I was two stone lighter. I have put fat on but I have also put muscle on so its not all lard, prob 3/4 of it though.

So, 2 stone in 89 days, already feel different after a week.

16.8 today

[LosingGrip]

Well found out why I struggled so much with my run...my big toe is infected. Better clear up before Thursday! Gym might not be happening Monday.

[LosingGrip]

Back to work tomorrow as well. Actually looking forward to it in way. Delivery driver so lots of lifting which will be good!

Toe update...self surgery worked! Ripped the nail out and pain went away straight away. Result.

Gym is back on!

[Robmarriott]

105.8kg today, which means I am no longer obese according to my BMI, I’m now just overweight!

[LosingGrip]

Girlfriend has said that she can see I've lost weight...I can't see it myself, but I'm seeing myself daily were she only sees me at the weekends.

Decided to take some photos. They might get posted in the future!

Gym today. Weight day.

Squat 5x5 50kg (PB)
Deadlift 5x1 70kg (PB)
Overhead Press 5x5 27.5kg
Bent Over Row 5x5 (PB)
Bench Press 3x8 47.5kg (PB)
Bicep Curl 2x8 30kg (really struggled with this)

Next day of couch to 5k tomorrow. Then Wednesday off, fitness test Thursday evening and back on Friday to the gym for some weights.

[Euan94MX5]

I have popped myself back on the active list, I did fall off the wagon for a few weeks due to a holiday and a niggly injury that stopped me running. I thought'd i hadn't put any weight back on but in reality I was just avoiding the scales.

Back with a vengeance over the last week and I am back down to my lowest weight and ready to kick on. I was encouraged by friends to join them on a 10K run over the bank holiday and had a great time, also banked a new 5K PB at parkrun this weekend so i am very positive at the moment. Need to make sure I keep logging my weight, the last few weeks proved that if I don't then I just gradually put the weight back on.