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Hoofy

76,380 posts

283 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Have a listen to this workshop I ran for everyone a month ago.

Hoofy said:
You can find the recording of Thursday's intro to mindfulness here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lnKL-iIE4BZ-C-HVz...

Let me know if you have problems seeing it (I will have to find somewhere else to host it!).

It starts about 40 seconds in.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Meditation worked for me. Was has very sceptical but can't argue with the results.

Hoofy

76,380 posts

283 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Sambucket said:
Meditation worked for me. Was has very sceptical but can't argue with the results.
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It's just brain training when it comes down to it. Whatever you do more of, you get better at. If you think about all the things that can go wrong, you'll get good at that. If you review arguments you had with your partner/wife and play them out in your head again and again, you'll get good at that. If you react to a negative comment by flipping out and getting defensive, you will get good at that. smile

Mazda3_Nuts

1,487 posts

108 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Hoofy said:
Have you tried practising mindfulness daily for a month? It's about developing a new habit in terms of stopping your mind going off on one which creates the anxious feelings.
I haven't no, but will have a listen later when I get the chance, the link you posted above covers all that does it?

Hoofy

76,380 posts

283 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Mazda3_Nuts said:
Hoofy said:
Have you tried practising mindfulness daily for a month? It's about developing a new habit in terms of stopping your mind going off on one which creates the anxious feelings.
I haven't no, but will have a listen later when I get the chance, the link you posted above covers all that does it?
It's a brief primer but you will need to practice daily. Message me and I'll send you a free course with videos for short daily practices as well.

RadoVR6

1,210 posts

207 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Mazda3_Nuts said:
Only 5 weeks to go until I start the CBT rolleyes

Really had enough of this now, I've suffered with anxiety for 17+ years and feel like it's getting worse as I'm getting older. I can't even attend family gatherings, go out for meals etc I just end up in an emotional quivering sweating wreck. Even out driving, if something happens like someone driving up my ass I can feel the sweat drip down my arms.

Went docs 4 weeks ago about it, and suggested the CBT but to avoid medication for the time being. I really do hope the CBT alone sorts it, I'm honestly not keen on taking meds with some of the side effects some mention on here.

st sleeping and headaches, virtually every day. Taking St. Johns wort supplement daily but don't think it's having any impact. Gave up on the CBD oil, Did nothing at all.
Have you thought about going private? I'm not sure where you are based but I am paying £40 a session once a week.

Mazda3_Nuts

1,487 posts

108 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Hoofy said:
Mazda3_Nuts said:
Hoofy said:
Have you tried practising mindfulness daily for a month? It's about developing a new habit in terms of stopping your mind going off on one which creates the anxious feelings.
I haven't no, but will have a listen later when I get the chance, the link you posted above covers all that does it?
It's a brief primer but you will need to practice daily. Message me and I'll send you a free course with videos for short daily practices as well.
Thanks - Will msg you..

Mazda3_Nuts

1,487 posts

108 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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RadoVR6 said:
Have you thought about going private? I'm not sure where you are based but I am paying £40 a session once a week.
TBH I've suffered for years so don't really mind waiting, I'll see how I get on, can always go private if it doesn't work but guess it's all pretty much the same?

How you getting on with it?

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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sc0tt said:
Looking back, I couldn’t enjoy my wedding day until the last guest left. I worry about one thing to the next.
I didn't enjoy my wedding day at all. It was horrendous.

I spent the entire day worrying that everything would be ok, worrying that the food and drink would be nice for the guests, worrying that everyone would enjoy themselves, worrying that the venue was nice, worrying that the band would be good, worried that someone would get to drunk...

I was essentially panicking all day until, as you say, the very last guest either left or went to their hotel room.

Didn't drink anything alcoholic all day and just drank water. Didn't enjoy the food for worrying.

Awful.

I hate anything like that where there is a lot of people involved, I can't control things, anything could happen, and it might reflect badly on me. Can't cope with it.

RadoVR6

1,210 posts

207 months

Friday 13th December 2019
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Mazda3_Nuts said:
TBH I've suffered for years so don't really mind waiting, I'll see how I get on, can always go private if it doesn't work but guess it's all pretty much the same?

How you getting on with it?
I have only had one consultation and one session up to now which is basically talking about it all and starting to acknowledge what causes it. It is a massive weight off my shoulders just to talk to someone who understands and a plan in place to resolve it.
I am 40 and suffered in silence all of my life.

cindychops

409 posts

159 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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For the last 2 years i have been having "funny" spells when i'm around lots of people and get very anxious,every morning i pop into my local asda to buy some dinner and the further away from the front doors i get the more i panic and i feel as if i've got clown shoes on walking through treacle.
The worst bit is if i get to a checkout and 2 or more people are behind me and i have to grab a shelf to calm down(i'm not going to faint or anything i just feel really paranoid)
Its really embarrassing telling strangers on a forum about going slightly mad but it does seem to rule my life,the best thing i can do at the moment is recite a little song or ditty in my head to distract me and gives me something to focus on.
Does anyone else have similar issues or is it just me.

Munter

31,319 posts

242 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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cindychops said:
For the last 2 years i have been having "funny" spells when i'm around lots of people and get very anxious,every morning i pop into my local asda to buy some dinner and the further away from the front doors i get the more i panic and i feel as if i've got clown shoes on walking through treacle.
The worst bit is if i get to a checkout and 2 or more people are behind me and i have to grab a shelf to calm down(i'm not going to faint or anything i just feel really paranoid)
Its really embarrassing telling strangers on a forum about going slightly mad but it does seem to rule my life,the best thing i can do at the moment is recite a little song or ditty in my head to distract me and gives me something to focus on.
Does anyone else have similar issues or is it just me.
Are you my OH? She cannot cope with busy supermarkets and regularly has to leave an aisle if it get's too busy.

See if there is an "Autism hour" in your supermarket and try and hit that once a week rather than every day dreading the shop, all day. I think the more "good" experiences you can have in that environment the better I suspect you'll feel over time. So, plan ahead, have a list so it's not a random frantic hunt, and hit the quiet times.

mcelliott

8,674 posts

182 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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cindychops said:
For the last 2 years i have been having "funny" spells when i'm around lots of people and get very anxious,every morning i pop into my local asda to buy some dinner and the further away from the front doors i get the more i panic and i feel as if i've got clown shoes on walking through treacle.
The worst bit is if i get to a checkout and 2 or more people are behind me and i have to grab a shelf to calm down(i'm not going to faint or anything i just feel really paranoid)
Its really embarrassing telling strangers on a forum about going slightly mad but it does seem to rule my life,the best thing i can do at the moment is recite a little song or ditty in my head to distract me and gives me something to focus on.
Does anyone else have similar issues or is it just me.
I can relate to this, I would say it's akin to a very mild panic attack.

No_Idea

1,487 posts

108 months

Wednesday 18th December 2019
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Me too. I now use Tesco scan as you shop which takes the stress away. I've been unable to use normal checkouts for quite some time now, having to unload all the shopping whilst others are watching queuing up behind and having to pack everything proves just too stressful.

Same with eating out in public, I can't do that too frown

Hoofy

76,380 posts

283 months

Wednesday 18th December 2019
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I can appreciate this.

I think it isn't so bad if you are overall less overwhelmed with stuff going on everywhere else in your life (work etc), if you see what I mean.

cindychops

409 posts

159 months

Wednesday 18th December 2019
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Does anyone else st themselves when they hear a loud bang as in proper jump out of their skin,I also don't like it when people are walking behind me so i either walk very slow so they go in front or do a 180.
At the weekend went to M&S and it was heaving and halfway through the food hall had the mother of all panic attacks and just grabbed my wifes hand and got outside a.s.a.p..I always feel really angry with myself when this happens.

dav123a

1,220 posts

160 months

Wednesday 18th December 2019
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I've had times like that , it's like being switched on all the time. The book I'm reading describes it like this , as a cheetah runs for a group of gazelle ,the gazelle run they are on high alert if one is caught the others switch off to the danger , they may be grazing very close to the cheetah they know the danger is gone. But for people like ourselves the brain has you switched on all the time.

I've got to say I've come on loads in the last 3/4 months . Hoofy was kind enough to help with some PMs and links to some mindfulness exercises. I don't feel the finished article but I would have a go at the stuff that's been suggested. I've not found it easy and have had some bumps put I feel as if I have put myself on a different road that's for the better.

As an aside I've been going on Andy's man club on a Monday , gives me a safe space to find and verbalise some of the odd thoughts. Found it has helped , I'd suggest to anyone to go along .

dav123a

1,220 posts

160 months

Wednesday 18th December 2019
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Just to add to that I find the anger is from the anxiety and the build up of it , it then comes out as anger. Do you have an outlet , maybe some physical exercise ?

cindychops

409 posts

159 months

Wednesday 18th December 2019
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The anger is pure frustration as when i'm feeling anxious i just want to say to myself "sort it out,there's nothing physically or mentally wrong with me".
I never feel odd when walking down the street though it only seems to occur in highly populated places.Whenever i tell people they either think i'm A.mad B.Its just in my head.

Munter

31,319 posts

242 months

Wednesday 18th December 2019
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cindychops said:
The anger is pure frustration as when i'm feeling anxious i just want to say to myself "sort it out,there's nothing physically or mentally wrong with me".
I never feel odd when walking down the street though it only seems to occur in highly populated places.Whenever i tell people they either think i'm A.mad B.Its just in my head.
It is "in your head". That doesn't mean it's not real. As this thread would suggest it's both real and fairly common and you'll need to do something to "sort it out". Letting it fester and denying there is anything "mentally wrong", probably isn't a good plan.

(Wrong might not be the best word. How about "mentally something I'd like to change")

damn it I came to read this thread to try and better understand the OH. I said to myself I wouldn't post anything. Seems I need to work on that...


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