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vindaloo79 said:
Hoofy said:
I tried listening to an audiobook version of the Ekhaat Tolle, I tried a few times and never managed to finish it. I found the concept interesting, but fell asleep to it too much. Do you rate the book?
I used to lead sessions like this but I even bored myself.
Now I run them as myself in a more down-to-earth manner that people enjoy.As for Tolle's book, the content is worth considering. It may not work for you but then something may inspire you.
dav123a said:
Some of what's been written here rings true , after feeling totally burnt out I've started stepping back but filling its place is anxiety that I can't yet place , it's got worse and stops me from enjoying much , it's like being trapped in a cage. It feels debilitating right now.
You can try the usual calming activities but if they don't work and you find you can't stop thinking, then try focusing on the breath for 5 minutes.dav123a said:
I'm going to give some of the stuff mentioned on here a go and see how I go. Feels like some how my brain has got mixed up. Not sure I feel ready for a trip to the GP.
Do give mindfulness a go but remember that there is nothing wrong with seeking professional help if you feel it's too overwhelming.
Have always had issues with worrying and anxiety, mainly stemming from things that happened in my childhood. Theses feelings come and go mostly without too much stress. However when I came back from my summer holiday I began waking up with a horrible knot in my stomach, what was so puzzling was that there was no clear reason for it, Home life and work is perfect. The stress and anxiety become so bad food was going straight through me which in turn convinced me I had something wrong. A week of literally no sleep and no appetite I went to the doctor where he put me on a course of beta blockers and Diazepam, blood tests were also done which came back clear, have to say I’ve never felt so frightened in all my life.
mcelliott said:
Have always had issues with worrying and anxiety, mainly stemming from things that happened in my childhood. Theses feelings come and go mostly without too much stress. However when I came back from my summer holiday I began waking up with a horrible knot in my stomach, what was so puzzling was that there was no clear reason for it, Home life and work is perfect. The stress and anxiety become so bad food was going straight through me which in turn convinced me I had something wrong. A week of literally no sleep and no appetite I went to the doctor where he put me on a course of beta blockers and Diazepam, blood tests were also done which came back clear, have to say I’ve never felt so frightened in all my life.
Trust a doc to go straight for the sweeties.I'd see about getting help for the "things that happened" in your childhood.
Hoofy said:
mcelliott said:
Have always had issues with worrying and anxiety, mainly stemming from things that happened in my childhood. Theses feelings come and go mostly without too much stress. However when I came back from my summer holiday I began waking up with a horrible knot in my stomach, what was so puzzling was that there was no clear reason for it, Home life and work is perfect. The stress and anxiety become so bad food was going straight through me which in turn convinced me I had something wrong. A week of literally no sleep and no appetite I went to the doctor where he put me on a course of beta blockers and Diazepam, blood tests were also done which came back clear, have to say I’ve never felt so frightened in all my life.
Trust a doc to go straight for the sweeties.I'd see about getting help for the "things that happened" in your childhood.
of killing myself, I have regular counselling sessions which have helped greatly. Can't be bothered with the sweetie comment.
That is awful Mcelliot, I can't even imagine, and I went through some crap as a child and a yoof.
I'm sure Hoofy didn't mean to diss, the sweetie comment was probably that it is the GPs go to as soon as one turns up at the practice with mental issues because the NHS medical health system is completely overwhelmed.
Two of my teens are suicidal, so hard to tell what is teenage angst and what is a real problem. My daughter, now 20, has had counseling and various anti depressants and now my 16 year old son has had an emergency referral to Cahms. He's got an appointment in 6 months time.
Currently he won't leave his room, to socialise or go to school.
No wonder the Docs hand out pills like confectionery.
I'm sure Hoofy didn't mean to diss, the sweetie comment was probably that it is the GPs go to as soon as one turns up at the practice with mental issues because the NHS medical health system is completely overwhelmed.
Two of my teens are suicidal, so hard to tell what is teenage angst and what is a real problem. My daughter, now 20, has had counseling and various anti depressants and now my 16 year old son has had an emergency referral to Cahms. He's got an appointment in 6 months time.
Currently he won't leave his room, to socialise or go to school.
No wonder the Docs hand out pills like confectionery.
croyde said:
because the NHS medical health system is completely overwhelmed.
Big time, my wife got told she could have anti-depressants today, or wait 6 months to speak to a therapist. Even then it was a phone appointment, to actually have a face to face meeting was another 3 months.mcelliott said:
Hoofy said:
mcelliott said:
Have always had issues with worrying and anxiety, mainly stemming from things that happened in my childhood. Theses feelings come and go mostly without too much stress. However when I came back from my summer holiday I began waking up with a horrible knot in my stomach, what was so puzzling was that there was no clear reason for it, Home life and work is perfect. The stress and anxiety become so bad food was going straight through me which in turn convinced me I had something wrong. A week of literally no sleep and no appetite I went to the doctor where he put me on a course of beta blockers and Diazepam, blood tests were also done which came back clear, have to say I’ve never felt so frightened in all my life.
Trust a doc to go straight for the sweeties.I'd see about getting help for the "things that happened" in your childhood.
of killing myself, I have regular counselling sessions which have helped greatly. Can't be bothered with the sweetie comment.
I'm pleased to hear the sessions are helping; do you feel it will come to a conclusion or will it be an ongoing thing? I mean, can you get to a point where you can achieve acceptance of what has happened with counselling?
I'm definitely a lurker more than a poster, but this thread has really struck a chord with me so felt the need to join in.
I find myself dreading things that I should otherwise, logically, be looking forward to. It's not until after the event is done that I can reflect on it and realise it was enjoyable. Sometimes I'll be lucky and be able to enjoy it in the moment once it's got going and I realise the world isn't going to end, but there's always the anxious build up to it where I spend a week beforehand wishing it wasn't happening.
I also find I worry far more about the small, obscure things rather than bigger things. For example, I love track days but as with most things, I dread them. My anxiety doesn't come from crashing or anything like that (obviously a concern but it's not the cause of my anxiety), but instead I worry about being slow and not very good, having other people notice and laugh about me and then worrying that off the back of that I'll lose my interest in cars and therefore lose a big hobby and passion of mine. It's not logical and I appreciate that, but it's how my brain works.
However, a couple of years back I bought a house and was completely non-plussed and laid back about the whole thing. Ask me to pop down to the supermarket though, and my heart rate will kick up a few gears the whole time I'm there! A lot of people claim their anxiety is linked to something when they were younger, but I genuinely had a great childhood with incredibly supportive and loving parents, moderate success at school (enough to keep everyone happy, anyway!), and I was actually one of the most laid back and happy-go-lucky kids generally.
Personally, I feel like a bad period I went through about 4/5 years ago is still troubling me deep down and causing a knock on effect with some things. One of the biggest moments from that period was ,e and my longterm girlfriend breaking up the day after my birthday (also two weeks before Christmas), and it hit me so hard I needed a couple of days off work because I just felt like I was being physically crushed. I don't pine after her, I've had a relationship since then, and I've even bumped into her at parties/weddings of mutual friends and it's been ok (as ok as it can ever be, running into someone who used to be a big part of your life), but I feel like the whole breakup had various knock on effects that have left me somewhat less confident in myself than I used to be. I do also go through periods where I'm very down and negative about myself, my future, a lot of things.
When it got really bad my GP did say they'd write a letter referring me for therapy, but I never worked up the nerve to collect it and get something arranged. At this point I feel truly fed up with worrying about things that I shouldn't be and really want to see if I can sort it and be person I used to be, but the world of therapy seems so big and daunting. I'm not averse to going privately if it's quicker/easier/better, and I do have BUPA through work, but not sure if I can use it for this? I will also try a few of the 'self-help' methods people have mentioned in this thread.
Anyway, good to get it all typed down at least!
I find myself dreading things that I should otherwise, logically, be looking forward to. It's not until after the event is done that I can reflect on it and realise it was enjoyable. Sometimes I'll be lucky and be able to enjoy it in the moment once it's got going and I realise the world isn't going to end, but there's always the anxious build up to it where I spend a week beforehand wishing it wasn't happening.
I also find I worry far more about the small, obscure things rather than bigger things. For example, I love track days but as with most things, I dread them. My anxiety doesn't come from crashing or anything like that (obviously a concern but it's not the cause of my anxiety), but instead I worry about being slow and not very good, having other people notice and laugh about me and then worrying that off the back of that I'll lose my interest in cars and therefore lose a big hobby and passion of mine. It's not logical and I appreciate that, but it's how my brain works.
However, a couple of years back I bought a house and was completely non-plussed and laid back about the whole thing. Ask me to pop down to the supermarket though, and my heart rate will kick up a few gears the whole time I'm there! A lot of people claim their anxiety is linked to something when they were younger, but I genuinely had a great childhood with incredibly supportive and loving parents, moderate success at school (enough to keep everyone happy, anyway!), and I was actually one of the most laid back and happy-go-lucky kids generally.
Personally, I feel like a bad period I went through about 4/5 years ago is still troubling me deep down and causing a knock on effect with some things. One of the biggest moments from that period was ,e and my longterm girlfriend breaking up the day after my birthday (also two weeks before Christmas), and it hit me so hard I needed a couple of days off work because I just felt like I was being physically crushed. I don't pine after her, I've had a relationship since then, and I've even bumped into her at parties/weddings of mutual friends and it's been ok (as ok as it can ever be, running into someone who used to be a big part of your life), but I feel like the whole breakup had various knock on effects that have left me somewhat less confident in myself than I used to be. I do also go through periods where I'm very down and negative about myself, my future, a lot of things.
When it got really bad my GP did say they'd write a letter referring me for therapy, but I never worked up the nerve to collect it and get something arranged. At this point I feel truly fed up with worrying about things that I shouldn't be and really want to see if I can sort it and be person I used to be, but the world of therapy seems so big and daunting. I'm not averse to going privately if it's quicker/easier/better, and I do have BUPA through work, but not sure if I can use it for this? I will also try a few of the 'self-help' methods people have mentioned in this thread.
Anyway, good to get it all typed down at least!
Ok thanks for the replies, didn’t mean to come across arsie on the pill front, I was in a pretty desperate situation and I accept that they aren’t a long term solution, the Diazepam have given me much needed restful sleep so that at least means I can function as a human being, I have 2 more weeks on them, not sure what to expect when I finish as I’ve never taken them before. The propranolol I’ve actually reduced the dosage down myself from 3 pills to one a day, my next counseling session is tonight so that’s come at a good time.
mcelliott said:
Ok thanks for the replies, didn’t mean to come across arsie on the pill front, I was in a pretty desperate situation and I accept that they aren’t a long term solution, the Diazepam have given me much needed restful sleep so that at least means I can function as a human being, I have 2 more weeks on them, not sure what to expect when I finish as I’ve never taken them before. The propranolol I’ve actually reduced the dosage down myself from 3 pills to one a day, my next counseling session is tonight so that’s come at a good time.
You will probably find mindfulness a useful tool. Helps you to chill but also if you tend to overthink, it can help calm that aspect down.dav123a said:
chris4652009 said:
Mindfulness is a better way of dealing with anxiety, I used to suffer terribly
Does it still come back ? How difficult do you find the mindfulness ? As for ease, the principles are simple and it takes practice.
Happy to have a voice chat if you want to ask questions.
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