I have Coronavirus
Discussion
Raccaccoonie said:
MYOB said:
Suffering only marginally with colds and never getting ill suggests you have a strong immune system.
My blood tests would indicate overwise, specifically white blood cells. I think exercise, the heat the body generates does wonders for killing them off as well.ooid said:
Institute of Armchair Virology is still active. 
s2kjock said:
After avoiding Covid completely up until now, my OH tested positive Wednesday last week, and I did a couple of days later. Flu like symptoms for her so in bed for 3-4 days, whereas I had very bad cold symptoms but managed to carry on WFH at maybe 80% of usual capacity. No genuine loss of taste/smell other than the usual reduction you get with a bad cold and being "bunged up".
Both our major cold symptoms dissipated the last few days, but still feeling tired (not exhausted) (haven't been out the house so difficult to tell how knackered we might be if walking etc) and occasional headaches and bouts of dizziness.
Both tested positive again this morning very annoyingly, which is 10 days after first positive test for her, and 8 days for me. We have already had to miss a concert on Thursday, and have another even more expensive one booked for tomorrow. Covid insurance we had seems to be a waste of time as it requires a doctor visit who (quite reasonably) would probably tell us to get stuffed, and/or charge a fee similar to the ticket price.
I always thought we would get over it in a few days, and be back testing negative after a week to 10 days, but seems not to be the case.
Only good thing is that neither of us have been near our elderly parents recently, and hopefully we won't have to in a hurry for any emergencies.
Are you in the UK?Both our major cold symptoms dissipated the last few days, but still feeling tired (not exhausted) (haven't been out the house so difficult to tell how knackered we might be if walking etc) and occasional headaches and bouts of dizziness.
Both tested positive again this morning very annoyingly, which is 10 days after first positive test for her, and 8 days for me. We have already had to miss a concert on Thursday, and have another even more expensive one booked for tomorrow. Covid insurance we had seems to be a waste of time as it requires a doctor visit who (quite reasonably) would probably tell us to get stuffed, and/or charge a fee similar to the ticket price.
I always thought we would get over it in a few days, and be back testing negative after a week to 10 days, but seems not to be the case.
Only good thing is that neither of us have been near our elderly parents recently, and hopefully we won't have to in a hurry for any emergencies.
I don't believe there are any restrictions on activities if one has a positive test result at this moment in time.
I wasn't aware that 'covid insurance' was such a thing, though. Was that a clause / condition of the ticket sales or is it an independent policy that you have purchased?
RSTurboPaul said:
s2kjock said:
After avoiding Covid completely up until now, my OH tested positive Wednesday last week, and I did a couple of days later. Flu like symptoms for her so in bed for 3-4 days, whereas I had very bad cold symptoms but managed to carry on WFH at maybe 80% of usual capacity. No genuine loss of taste/smell other than the usual reduction you get with a bad cold and being "bunged up".
Both our major cold symptoms dissipated the last few days, but still feeling tired (not exhausted) (haven't been out the house so difficult to tell how knackered we might be if walking etc) and occasional headaches and bouts of dizziness.
Both tested positive again this morning very annoyingly, which is 10 days after first positive test for her, and 8 days for me. We have already had to miss a concert on Thursday, and have another even more expensive one booked for tomorrow. Covid insurance we had seems to be a waste of time as it requires a doctor visit who (quite reasonably) would probably tell us to get stuffed, and/or charge a fee similar to the ticket price.
I always thought we would get over it in a few days, and be back testing negative after a week to 10 days, but seems not to be the case.
Only good thing is that neither of us have been near our elderly parents recently, and hopefully we won't have to in a hurry for any emergencies.
Are you in the UK?Both our major cold symptoms dissipated the last few days, but still feeling tired (not exhausted) (haven't been out the house so difficult to tell how knackered we might be if walking etc) and occasional headaches and bouts of dizziness.
Both tested positive again this morning very annoyingly, which is 10 days after first positive test for her, and 8 days for me. We have already had to miss a concert on Thursday, and have another even more expensive one booked for tomorrow. Covid insurance we had seems to be a waste of time as it requires a doctor visit who (quite reasonably) would probably tell us to get stuffed, and/or charge a fee similar to the ticket price.
I always thought we would get over it in a few days, and be back testing negative after a week to 10 days, but seems not to be the case.
Only good thing is that neither of us have been near our elderly parents recently, and hopefully we won't have to in a hurry for any emergencies.
I don't believe there are any restrictions on activities if one has a positive test result at this moment in time.
I wasn't aware that 'covid insurance' was such a thing, though. Was that a clause / condition of the ticket sales or is it an independent policy that you have purchased?
The covid insurance is a not uncommon top-up from the ticket agent in theory designed for this sort of thing (OH booked the tickets so I have not seen the detail), but we should have looked at it more carefully as it seems in practice not worth it - wasn't especially expensive though.
The gig is not sold out so it's not like we can sell on the tickets easily in any case.
s2kjock said:
RSTurboPaul said:
s2kjock said:
After avoiding Covid completely up until now, my OH tested positive Wednesday last week, and I did a couple of days later. Flu like symptoms for her so in bed for 3-4 days, whereas I had very bad cold symptoms but managed to carry on WFH at maybe 80% of usual capacity. No genuine loss of taste/smell other than the usual reduction you get with a bad cold and being "bunged up".
Both our major cold symptoms dissipated the last few days, but still feeling tired (not exhausted) (haven't been out the house so difficult to tell how knackered we might be if walking etc) and occasional headaches and bouts of dizziness.
Both tested positive again this morning very annoyingly, which is 10 days after first positive test for her, and 8 days for me. We have already had to miss a concert on Thursday, and have another even more expensive one booked for tomorrow. Covid insurance we had seems to be a waste of time as it requires a doctor visit who (quite reasonably) would probably tell us to get stuffed, and/or charge a fee similar to the ticket price.
I always thought we would get over it in a few days, and be back testing negative after a week to 10 days, but seems not to be the case.
Only good thing is that neither of us have been near our elderly parents recently, and hopefully we won't have to in a hurry for any emergencies.
Are you in the UK?Both our major cold symptoms dissipated the last few days, but still feeling tired (not exhausted) (haven't been out the house so difficult to tell how knackered we might be if walking etc) and occasional headaches and bouts of dizziness.
Both tested positive again this morning very annoyingly, which is 10 days after first positive test for her, and 8 days for me. We have already had to miss a concert on Thursday, and have another even more expensive one booked for tomorrow. Covid insurance we had seems to be a waste of time as it requires a doctor visit who (quite reasonably) would probably tell us to get stuffed, and/or charge a fee similar to the ticket price.
I always thought we would get over it in a few days, and be back testing negative after a week to 10 days, but seems not to be the case.
Only good thing is that neither of us have been near our elderly parents recently, and hopefully we won't have to in a hurry for any emergencies.
I don't believe there are any restrictions on activities if one has a positive test result at this moment in time.
I wasn't aware that 'covid insurance' was such a thing, though. Was that a clause / condition of the ticket sales or is it an independent policy that you have purchased?
The covid insurance is a not uncommon top-up from the ticket agent in theory designed for this sort of thing (OH booked the tickets so I have not seen the detail), but we should have looked at it more carefully as it seems in practice not worth it - wasn't especially expensive though.
The gig is not sold out so it's not like we can sell on the tickets easily in any case.
I am not sure that, prior to Covid, anyone really paid much attention to whether they were a bit snotty or run down if an event or flight was booked, other than if they were going to see an elderly relative, but 'the narrative' around Covid seems to have introduced the concept that we are all individual pits of infestation who must shut ourselves away until/unless we can prove we are not harbouring illness - 'guilty until proven innocent', if you like.
There would seem a counter position to this approach in that one attending an event (or even just interacting with the world around them) should be willing/prepared to encounter other people who may not be in perfect health, and accept that endemic infections are likely to be something they experience once in a while as a side effect of merely existing in a world with other people.
And even then, 'perfect health' would seem to be framed in terms of not currently experiencing a possibly transmissible infection of any kind - but without such infections, our immune systems do not learn and get stronger, so is it really wise to avoid infection as much as possible...?
A complex discussion, either way
RSTurboPaul said:
A complex discussion, either way
Not really complex. Just let nature do its thing and we’ll all be stronger as a population over time. Mess about with nature and there will be significant consequences as we’re witnessing now with highly elevated excess deaths caused by a combination of unnecessary lockdowns and influencing the majority of some populations (excluding large areas of Africa) to take multiple experimental jabs.
Chris Stott said:
Covid is just like any other illness… if you feel well enough just carry on with your life as normal. Why would you self restrict yourself? You’re under no obligation.
You don't seriously need an answer to the part you posted as a question do you ?That is a question by the way .
Chris Stott said:
Covid is just like any other illness… if you feel well enough just carry on with your life as normal. Why would you self restrict yourself? You’re under no obligation.
That's not quite correct.CV19 causes viral pneumonia.
Not that many viruses cause viral pneumonia, specifically.
The effects of that initial hit are variable, but can pose significant (life threatening, in some) risk for others if an affected individual just carries on with their life as normal.
It's therefore appropriate to behave responsibly if you know that you have CV19.
OTOH, if everyone behaved responsibly, heard immunity levels would fall ultimately placing more people at risk.
Bottom line - this should NEVER have happened and, until this virus re-evolves back to a more natural state, we're probably in trouble as a species.
That's likely to take several decades.
rfisher said:
That's not quite correct.
CV19 causes viral pneumonia.
MAY cause viral pneumonia as can flu.CV19 causes viral pneumonia.
“ Viruses that are known to cause viral pneumonia include influenza A virus, parainfluenza virus, respiratory syncytial virus, human metapneumovirus, rhinovirus, coronavirus, adenovirus, enteroviruses, hantavirus, herpes virus, varicella-zoster virus, and measles virus (rubeola).
Seems like quite a lot of viruses MAY cause viral pneumonia so I can’t see why we treat Covid as any different as the majority of people have had it now anyway.
craig1912 said:
rfisher said:
That's not quite correct.
CV19 causes viral pneumonia.
MAY cause viral pneumonia as can flu.CV19 causes viral pneumonia.
“ Viruses that are known to cause viral pneumonia include influenza A virus, parainfluenza virus, respiratory syncytial virus, human metapneumovirus, rhinovirus, coronavirus, adenovirus, enteroviruses, hantavirus, herpes virus, varicella-zoster virus, and measles virus (rubeola).
Seems like quite a lot of viruses MAY cause viral pneumonia so I can’t see why we treat Covid as any different as the majority of people have had it now anyway.
A bit like the Terminator, that's what it does, that's all it does. That's its thing.
There's also the fact that some moron weaponised it in a lab specifically to cause harm, and then let it get out.
Don't underestimate CV19 yet, would be my recommendation.
17 stone, 6ft(for dating) obese 40 year old, six jabs.
That is half my workout, my heart has never felt stronger. I actually feel it gave me more strength.
Now try to debate this with Tin foil brigade, who will pull some obscure stat. So yes . I don't care if people get it or not, but obviously worked massively for me.
Low white cell count, never got COVID. Not really been ill since had jabs.
That is half my workout, my heart has never felt stronger. I actually feel it gave me more strength.
Now try to debate this with Tin foil brigade, who will pull some obscure stat. So yes . I don't care if people get it or not, but obviously worked massively for me.
Low white cell count, never got COVID. Not really been ill since had jabs.
Edited by Raccaccoonie on Saturday 8th April 14:40
Raccaccoonie said:
17 stone, 6ft(for dating) obese 40 year old, six jabs.
That is half my workout, my heart has never felt stronger. I actually feel it gave me more strength.
Now try to debate this with Tin foil brigade, who will pull some obscure stat. So yes . I don't care if people get it or not, but obviously worked massively for me.
Low white cell count, never got COVID. Not really been ill since had jabs.
n=1?That is half my workout, my heart has never felt stronger. I actually feel it gave me more strength.
Now try to debate this with Tin foil brigade, who will pull some obscure stat. So yes . I don't care if people get it or not, but obviously worked massively for me.
Low white cell count, never got COVID. Not really been ill since had jabs.
Edited by Raccaccoonie on Saturday 8th April 14:40
craig1912 said:
I wouldn’t want to put off doing stuff for the sake of what for most people is a mild illness.
In my wife’s case - she had it and was pretty ill for a couple of weeks so of course she thinks that what Covid is and she doesn’t fancy getting it again.Also we have a daughter who works in the NHS and got it right at the beginning and is still not fully over it - she got lung scarring, heart murmurs, brain fog etc. She does seem to be very slowly getting better, and she’s not making a fuss about it, but we still notice her getting breathless sometimes.
craig1912 said:
rfisher said:
That's not quite correct.
CV19 causes viral pneumonia.
MAY cause viral pneumonia as can flu.CV19 causes viral pneumonia.
“ Viruses that are known to cause viral pneumonia include influenza A virus, parainfluenza virus, respiratory syncytial virus, human metapneumovirus, rhinovirus, coronavirus, adenovirus, enteroviruses, hantavirus, herpes virus, varicella-zoster virus, and measles virus (rubeola).
Seems like quite a lot of viruses MAY cause viral pneumonia so I can’t see why we treat Covid as any different as the majority of people have had it now anyway.
paulguitar said:
Slagathore said:
Some experts
Which experts?Slagathore said:
repeatedly boosting and jabbing could be teaching the immune system to tolerate the virus rather than fight it.
I'm not sure how many people are still 'repeatedly boosting and jabbing'. I suspect most had the original pair of vaccines and possibly a booster. I know a few people, not particularly old, not sure how 'vulnerable' they are, but many have mentioned having had 4 or 5. But agreed, and I think the stats show the same as well, most stopped at 3 or 4.
I posted a while back on another thread, but can't remember which one to go back and get the link, but comments from Paul Offit on immune imprinting and why there may be a need to be cautious with boosters.
Some discussion on one of the papers here:
https://maryannedemasi.substack.com/p/a-5th-jab-im...
Little bit less pessimistic assessment here - https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciimmunol.adg...
Something to keep an eye on for the science people!
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