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Kermit power said:
Did anyone else find that after initial excellent results from new meds, they then seemed to have a tail off in effectiveness? (he asks at 11:09 rather than doing the important but uninteresting work task that doesn't have a looming deadline! 
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I'm wondering if it's placebo effect, honeymoon period, or just a sign that the dose needs to be adjusted at my next review?
Interesting, I haven't been on meds or even diagnosed yet but I did wonder about this. From what little I know, ADHD meds are a little like mild amphetamines and you will build up some tolerance to amphetamines, which means unless the dose is increased they will get less effective. Perhaps that's what's happening here. )I'm wondering if it's placebo effect, honeymoon period, or just a sign that the dose needs to be adjusted at my next review?
I sometimes think to myself, do I just live with it and work around my problems, sometimes I think the answer with procrastinating is just to force yourself to start doing *something* and the rest will follow. Easier said than done but they do say motivation follows action and not the other way around.
TameRacingDriver said:
Kermit power said:
Did anyone else find that after initial excellent results from new meds, they then seemed to have a tail off in effectiveness? (he asks at 11:09 rather than doing the important but uninteresting work task that doesn't have a looming deadline! )
I'm wondering if it's placebo effect, honeymoon period, or just a sign that the dose needs to be adjusted at my next review?
Interesting, I haven't been on meds or even diagnosed yet but I did wonder about this. From what little I know, ADHD meds are a little like mild amphetamines and you will build up some tolerance to amphetamines, which means unless the dose is increased they will get less effective. Perhaps that's what's happening here. )I'm wondering if it's placebo effect, honeymoon period, or just a sign that the dose needs to be adjusted at my next review?
I sometimes think to myself, do I just live with it and work around my problems, sometimes I think the answer with procrastinating is just to force yourself to start doing *something* and the rest will follow. Easier said than done but they do say motivation follows action and not the other way around.
Kermit power said:
Does anyone have any advice on slowing yourself down in interactions with others?
I tend to speak too much, and often without putting in enough filters. I'm self-aware enough to realise that it can be very annoying, but I just don't seem able to stop myself from doing it. The Lisdexamfetamine has improved it somewhat, but it's very definitely still an area I need to work on to get to less talk and more listen.
Interestingly, this is only an issue in English. I spend much of my job working in other languages that I speak essentially fluently, but I'm assuming that the fact they're not my mother tongue slows me down just enough to have the desired effect. If I could figure out a way to replicate that in English, all would be good!
awareness is key, and you are also aware. slow things down when you become aware and the behaviour and self monitoring will start to embedI tend to speak too much, and often without putting in enough filters. I'm self-aware enough to realise that it can be very annoying, but I just don't seem able to stop myself from doing it. The Lisdexamfetamine has improved it somewhat, but it's very definitely still an area I need to work on to get to less talk and more listen.
Interestingly, this is only an issue in English. I spend much of my job working in other languages that I speak essentially fluently, but I'm assuming that the fact they're not my mother tongue slows me down just enough to have the desired effect. If I could figure out a way to replicate that in English, all would be good!
Kermit power said:
Did anyone else find that after initial excellent results from new meds, they then seemed to have a tail off in effectiveness? (he asks at 11:09 rather than doing the important but uninteresting work task that doesn't have a looming deadline! )
I'm wondering if it's placebo effect, honeymoon period, or just a sign that the dose needs to be adjusted at my next review?
A bit. I think there is (or was for me) an initial euphoria and ‘extreme calmness’, that faded a little with time. Not completely. The ability to focus substantially better has remained. )I'm wondering if it's placebo effect, honeymoon period, or just a sign that the dose needs to be adjusted at my next review?
Shuff4 said:
Recommendations for private diagnosis / testing please lady’s and gents.
I used adhd360. Seemed reasonable enough but it's essentially a q&a session.They left me to make a decision on if I wanted counselling or medication route. Obviously I've not done anything about it in the 2 months since diagnosis, so followup wise they could do better and I can't vouch any more than just on diagnosis front of things.
Bloxxcreative said:
I used adhd360. Seemed reasonable enough but it's essentially a q&a session.
They left me to make a decision on if I wanted counselling or medication route. Obviously I've not done anything about it in the 2 months since diagnosis, so followup wise they could do better and I can't vouch any more than just on diagnosis front of things.
I've just gone through initial screening with them on their Chrysalis system, with an appointment date in a few months--Does the appointment itself run in a similar vein to the questionnaires on Chrysalis?They left me to make a decision on if I wanted counselling or medication route. Obviously I've not done anything about it in the 2 months since diagnosis, so followup wise they could do better and I can't vouch any more than just on diagnosis front of things.
MikeGTi said:
Bloxxcreative said:
I used adhd360. Seemed reasonable enough but it's essentially a q&a session.
They left me to make a decision on if I wanted counselling or medication route. Obviously I've not done anything about it in the 2 months since diagnosis, so followup wise they could do better and I can't vouch any more than just on diagnosis front of things.
I've just gone through initial screening with them on their Chrysalis system, with an appointment date in a few months--Does the appointment itself run in a similar vein to the questionnaires on Chrysalis?[/quoteThey left me to make a decision on if I wanted counselling or medication route. Obviously I've not done anything about it in the 2 months since diagnosis, so followup wise they could do better and I can't vouch any more than just on diagnosis front of things.
Kind of. It's done with a live Dr, and there's alot more questions and alot more detail. That said they didn't probe alot. Eg - how did x drug affect you etc.
Being diagnosed gave me the impetus to leave my then job. I realised that it was always going to seem dull & tedious to me, no matter what I did or how hard I tried. It was blatantly a gravy train that enough people pretended was important in a slightly artificial business/industry.
As others have said about their own experiences: even though it was often slow, it made me feel miserable, even when I wasn't "on the clock".
Organising, planning and doing things that are not interesting or seem pointless/futile (much of my old job, although some other, soul-less?, people seemed to manage) can be a real challenge.
Talking a lot, getting side-tracked, interrupting, arguing my case, questioning, calling out bulls
t in meetings (and standing up for others against injustice) can be both negatives and positives.
-Fwiw, I can't understand why others do not do these things.
Medication can help focus to an extent, although it is difficult to measure its efficacy.
Ps. I do feel that this is just the way I am. My traits may have been more advantageous in a different era or location.
As others have said about their own experiences: even though it was often slow, it made me feel miserable, even when I wasn't "on the clock".
Organising, planning and doing things that are not interesting or seem pointless/futile (much of my old job, although some other, soul-less?, people seemed to manage) can be a real challenge.
Talking a lot, getting side-tracked, interrupting, arguing my case, questioning, calling out bulls
t in meetings (and standing up for others against injustice) can be both negatives and positives. -Fwiw, I can't understand why others do not do these things.
Medication can help focus to an extent, although it is difficult to measure its efficacy.
Ps. I do feel that this is just the way I am. My traits may have been more advantageous in a different era or location.
Edited by Woodrow Wilson on Tuesday 14th February 09:16
Woodrow Wilson said:
Being diagnosed gave me the impetus to leave my then job. I realised that it was always going to seem dull & tedious to me, no matter what I did or how hard I tried. It was blatantly a gravy train that enough people pretended was important in a slightly artificial business/industry.
I feel this. I have been forced into a different role at my place and I just find it utterly tedious, and it's really making my procrastination worse. The thing is if I could get good at what I'm doing I could probably start earning more but no matter what I seem to do I just can't find anything interesting about it.On another note, I don't know if anyone else can relate to this, but I work from home, as does my Mrs. I have my own room to work in, as does Mrs, which is next door to mine. We tend to leave our doors open so we can "keep each other company", but whereas she just seems to be able to get on with it, I'm finding this hugely distracting and I just can't seem to get started. We've talked about this and agreed that we should probably close our doors for privacy. I don't know why I feel this way but I also didn't really like working in an open plan office either and used to often do my work alone in a room I had access to.
I don't know if that's an ADHD trait or not, or I just can't have company of any kind when I work as I just find it massively distracting even when that person isn't even interrupting me.
Woodrow Wilson said:
Being diagnosed gave me the impetus to leave my then job. I realised that it was always going to seem dull & tedious to me, no matter what I did or how hard I tried. It was blatantly a gravy train that enough people pretended was important in a slightly artificial business/industry.
As others have said about their own experiences: even though it was often slow, it made me feel miserable, even when I wasn't "on the clock".
Organising, planning and doing things that are not interesting or seem pointless/futile (much of my old job, although some other, soul-less?, people seemed to manage) can be a real challenge.
Talking a lot, getting side-tracked, interrupting, arguing my case, questioning, calling out bullst in meetings (and standing up for others against injustice) can be both negatives and positives.
-Fwiw, I can't understand why others do not do these things.
Medication can help focus to an extent, although it is difficult to measure its efficacy.
Ps. I do feel that this is just the way I am. My traits may have been more advantageous in a different era or location.
You just have to find where you fitAs others have said about their own experiences: even though it was often slow, it made me feel miserable, even when I wasn't "on the clock".
Organising, planning and doing things that are not interesting or seem pointless/futile (much of my old job, although some other, soul-less?, people seemed to manage) can be a real challenge.
Talking a lot, getting side-tracked, interrupting, arguing my case, questioning, calling out bulls
t in meetings (and standing up for others against injustice) can be both negatives and positives. -Fwiw, I can't understand why others do not do these things.
Medication can help focus to an extent, although it is difficult to measure its efficacy.
Ps. I do feel that this is just the way I am. My traits may have been more advantageous in a different era or location.
I've always known I was different (by different I mean better) than almost everyone I met
As I get bored easily I've moved around jobs but the one I really enjoyed was as Site Agent, I was the boss, I made hundreds of decisions a day and days went by in a flash
The reason I left was because I wasn't really having to think so I left for a "better" job, which it turned out, I hated because the better you were at it, the worse results you achieved (Land Buyer)
I recall a meeting with a Council Highways Department where this idiot had spent months asking for more and more regarding a new roundabout he wanted us to pay for - myself, the designer and 4 guys from the Council - he moved the goal posts AGAIN
I'd had enough, I banged the table with my fist, jumped up and shouted at him
I was expecting to get in trouble but everyone jumped, he caved and I got my way
Gareth Williams - bloody hell - 25 years later and whilst typing, his name has popped back into my head yet I couldn't tell you what I sat down to do 5 minutes ago
Probably get sacked for that these days - which is why I went self employed
TameRacingDriver said:
On another note, I don't know if anyone else can relate to this, but I work from home, as does my Mrs. I have my own room to work in, as does Mrs, which is next door to mine. We tend to leave our doors open so we can "keep each other company", but whereas she just seems to be able to get on with it, I'm finding this hugely distracting and I just can't seem to get started.
Working from home in a job that I disliked and had no interest in was torture.My wife often works from home and just beavers away at it. She won't be distracted from it and does not engage with the family whilst doing it.
(I am similar when carrying out a tricky hobby project, maintenance or DIY task, but not whilst doing something that I am being forced to do. I will do almost anything else in preference.)
Other family members of mine struggled with work from home
(-it has become clear that some of the traits described in this thread have been quite common throughout history in multiple branches of my family.)
KTMsm said:
I'd had enough, I banged the table with my fist, jumped up and shouted at him
This sort of thing sounds very familiar.With age I have become a little more diplomatic in the words I use, and a bit less volatile, but I am not afraid to challenge, especially the sort of people who normally get their way by bullying others. I'm actually polite and friendly most of the time and fairly quietly spoken, even if I do talk a lot.
Woodrow Wilson said:
it has become clear that some of the traits described in this thread have been quite common throughout history in multiple branches of my family
Agreed - my brother wasn't like me, my sister and my Dad, we all thought he was the odd one outLooking back he's the "normal" one
KTMsm said:
Woodrow Wilson said:
it has become clear that some of the traits described in this thread have been quite common throughout history in multiple branches of my family
Agreed - my brother wasn't like me, my sister and my Dad, we all thought he was the odd one outLooking back he's the "normal" one
cashmax said:
me constantly forgetting where I have left everything.
Hmmm, yes. Even worse if my wife "tidies up" and my things then disappear from my consciousness, potentially forever.On the plus side, I have achieved some great things in the time it takes to make my wife a cup of tea.
OK, so making the cup of tea takes a couple of hours, but she can't have everything....
My ADHD was never really an issue at work, in terms of interpersonal stuff or how i felt (besides the whole having to work all the time to do a normal amount of stuff issue), until a bit of a change of conditions and a change of manager.
I am very good at one core part of my job (like nationally/internationally top level), about 60%, not great at other 40%.
Other 40% has grown in terms of proportion and workload. Meanwhile, organisation says it still values the other stuff, though doesn’t act like it.
I have/had always been able to negotiate with manager about what i do using phrases like ‘no thanks I think x would suit me better’.
New manger doesn’t like this, new manager thinks leading = telling and the goal is to be obedient/obeyed, not to achieve/facilitate maximum performance.
Result is i now hate work. Being told ‘the things you said you wanted to do more of in your performance review [the things i am good at], i don’t view as equal value [as the things i am not good at].
All this leads to more outbursts and more frustration and serious performance loss/drop off in my ‘special area’. (Sorry that sounds like I mean I’ve become impotent - i haven’t - i mean that i am not delivering the high level i even used to, just because of environment… i feel under valued and under utilised).
I am very good at one core part of my job (like nationally/internationally top level), about 60%, not great at other 40%.
Other 40% has grown in terms of proportion and workload. Meanwhile, organisation says it still values the other stuff, though doesn’t act like it.
I have/had always been able to negotiate with manager about what i do using phrases like ‘no thanks I think x would suit me better’.
New manger doesn’t like this, new manager thinks leading = telling and the goal is to be obedient/obeyed, not to achieve/facilitate maximum performance.
Result is i now hate work. Being told ‘the things you said you wanted to do more of in your performance review [the things i am good at], i don’t view as equal value [as the things i am not good at].
All this leads to more outbursts and more frustration and serious performance loss/drop off in my ‘special area’. (Sorry that sounds like I mean I’ve become impotent - i haven’t - i mean that i am not delivering the high level i even used to, just because of environment… i feel under valued and under utilised).
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