ADHD - Adults

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the-norseman

12,466 posts

172 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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My missus is trying to get herself diagnosed as ADHD at the moment, her son has definitely got ADHD and we suspect Autism as well, were in the process of starting that diagnosis as well. The problem we are coming up against is his dad doesn't believe in things like ADHD, Autism etc and says they are "an excuse for naughty behaviour" and therefore will block us trying to get a diagnosis.








Woodrow Wilson

342 posts

161 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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jk_88 said:
100% the same. You can quote some nugget of information buried in a government document on the topic being discussed or pull on a raft of detailed statistics, but the life insurance form that I’ve completed, printed and have sitting on my desk staring at me for the last 2 weeks is impossible to put in an envelope with a stamp and drop in a post box.

Can write a 10,000 word technical report in 3 days though… the mind boggles.
Totally.

I have unusually good observation, memory and recall:

I am one of those people who can (and can't help doing it....) chip in with something I've experienced/read/been told about almost any subject. I do it for reasons of genuine interest and debate, but often feel a bit self-conscious afterwards, as I don't want to appear as a bulstter (which I am not) or a know-it-all/smart-arse (I try hard not to nowadays).

Tidying up or remembering to do the house or work chores, are a very different prospect. Out of sight, out of mind, until something sparks a memory, even something from below the age of 2 years old. The brain is a funny thing....

Ps. I'm also physically fit, strong for an average sized man in his 40s, like doing arduous activities and don't shy away from disagreement. I'm probably viewed as a bit eccentric and difficult to categorise.

Edited by Woodrow Wilson on Sunday 2nd April 11:06

timeism0ney

103 posts

94 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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the-norseman said:
My missus is trying to get herself diagnosed as ADHD at the moment, her son has definitely got ADHD and we suspect Autism as well, were in the process of starting that diagnosis as well. The problem we are coming up against is his dad doesn't believe in things like ADHD, Autism etc and says they are "an excuse for naughty behaviour" and therefore will block us trying to get a diagnosis.
He can’t really block it. This situation isn’t as unusual as you might think - sometimes parents disagree, it happens. In these situations doctors do what’s in the best interests of the child. With support of one parent everything is pretty straightforward. We’ve done autism and adhd diagnosis for my daughter without her father knowing (I’m the mum). My ex was adamant that any counselling or medication for our daughter will happen over his dead body. It was extremely stressful keeping all this secret from him to start with, but other than that, no issues with the doctors or diagnosis, and it was absolutely worth it. On the form about counselling and support they ask if there are people you want NOT to know and my daughter asked not to notify her father. We started the process when she was 13 and got a diagnosis when she was 15. We both absolutely wish she had the diagnosis earlier in life. My son is now getting a diagnosis for himself too but he’s 18 so doesn’t need to consult parents anymore. If he had it earlier it would have helped with exams and other things for sure but we are where we are. Both kids still have many years ahead of them to make sense of this information to their advantage. Much preferable to getting a diagnosis later in life.

Edited by timeism0ney on Sunday 2nd April 16:27

Animal

5,252 posts

269 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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jk_88 said:
100% the same. You can quote some nugget of information buried in a government document on the topic being discussed or pull on a raft of detailed statistics, but the life insurance form that I’ve completed, printed and have sitting on my desk staring at me for the last 2 weeks is impossible to put in an envelope with a stamp and drop in a post box.
Bloody hell - this is me! I've had my referral letter 6 weeks now and not done anything with it laugh

GilletteFan

672 posts

32 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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Woodrow Wilson said:
Totally.

I have unusually good observation, memory and recall:

I am one of those people who can (and can't help doing it....) chip in with something I've experienced/read/been told about almost any subject. I do it for reasons of genuine interest and debate, but often feel a bit self-conscious afterwards, as I don't want to appear as a bulstter (which I am not) or a know-it-all/smart-arse (I try hard not to nowadays).

Tidying up or remembering to do the house or work chores, are a very different prospect. Out of sight, out of mind, until something sparks a memory, even something from below the age of 2 years old. The brain is a funny thing....

Ps. I'm also physically fit, strong for an average sized man in his 40s, like doing arduous activities and don't shy away from disagreement. I'm probably viewed as a bit eccentric and difficult to categorise.

Edited by Woodrow Wilson on Sunday 2nd April 11:06
The don't shy away from disagreement can be an issue. I know quite a number of females, I suspect are highly autistic among other mental health issues, and they will fight tooth and nail about anything. Even if it's just to make others feel their views to make themselves feel better about themselves.

Wouldn't say this is a good thing.

Other girls I know are very very lazy and messy. Appallingly so. It is interesting to know that this also is the same for males who have ADHD.

I believe ADHD is fairly common. Especially among females.

Woodrow Wilson

342 posts

161 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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GilletteFan said:
Woodrow Wilson said:
Totally.

I have unusually good observation, memory and recall:

I am one of those people who can (and can't help doing it....) chip in with something I've experienced/read/been told about almost any subject. I do it for reasons of genuine interest and debate, but often feel a bit self-conscious afterwards, as I don't want to appear as a bulstter (which I am not) or a know-it-all/smart-arse (I try hard not to nowadays).

Tidying up or remembering to do the house or work chores, are a very different prospect. Out of sight, out of mind, until something sparks a memory, even something from below the age of 2 years old. The brain is a funny thing....

Ps. I'm also physically fit, strong for an average sized man in his 40s, like doing arduous activities and don't shy away from disagreement. I'm probably viewed as a bit eccentric and difficult to categorise.

Edited by Woodrow Wilson on Sunday 2nd April 11:06
The don't shy away from disagreement can be an issue.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not violent, but I have a sense of justice and will stand up for other people, where people typically shy away.

KTMsm

26,912 posts

264 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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Woodrow Wilson said:
Don't get me wrong, I'm not violent, but I have a sense of justice and will stand up for other people, where people typically shy away.
I don't think that's to do with ADHD I think that's to do with personality types

A friend of mine commented - as it's what I did - after reading up on the personality types and realizing that I was offering to help people who didn't necessarily wish to be helped and that I was doing it for my need rather than theirs, I stopped offering to most people

Take a personality test and have a read-up, I found it quite liberating


GilletteFan

672 posts

32 months

Monday 3rd April 2023
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KTMsm said:
I don't think that's to do with ADHD I think that's to do with personality types

A friend of mine commented - as it's what I did - after reading up on the personality types and realizing that I was offering to help people who didn't necessarily wish to be helped and that I was doing it for my need rather than theirs, I stopped offering to most people

Take a personality test and have a read-up, I found it quite liberating
Good stuff, mate. Thanks for sharing.

Been trying to help someone I know stop pissing everyone off and losing friends along the way. They are still surprised no one really cares for the drama wink

the-norseman

12,466 posts

172 months

Monday 3rd April 2023
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timeism0ney said:
He can’t really block it. This situation isn’t as unusual as you might think - sometimes parents disagree, it happens. In these situations doctors do what’s in the best interests of the child. With support of one parent everything is pretty straightforward. We’ve done autism and adhd diagnosis for my daughter without her father knowing (I’m the mum). My ex was adamant that any counselling or medication for our daughter will happen over his dead body. It was extremely stressful keeping all this secret from him to start with, but other than that, no issues with the doctors or diagnosis, and it was absolutely worth it. On the form about counselling and support they ask if there are people you want NOT to know and my daughter asked not to notify her father. We started the process when she was 13 and got a diagnosis when she was 15. We both absolutely wish she had the diagnosis earlier in life. My son is now getting a diagnosis for himself too but he’s 18 so doesn’t need to consult parents anymore. If he had it earlier it would have helped with exams and other things for sure but we are where we are. Both kids still have many years ahead of them to make sense of this information to their advantage. Much preferable to getting a diagnosis later in life.

Edited by timeism0ney on Sunday 2nd April 16:27
Thank you for that, I will pass this info on to my partner.

MikeGTi

2,507 posts

202 months

Tuesday 11th April 2023
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Finally got my diagnosis this afternoon, combined type ADHD.

It's probably over two years since I first thought this could be the issue, and a number of false starts to get things sorted, including going to the GP and not following up, and going to private providers and again not following up.

Weird sensation, but, hopefully in a week we can look at ways forward and see how they work.

nattybuk

146 posts

123 months

Tuesday 11th April 2023
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Hi all,

Thanks OP for the thread. My partner believes she has ADHD. In 2020 we kicked things off with her drs, absolute nightmare putting her on antidepressants.

She’s no confidence in drs at the moment but will try again.

MikeGTi

2,507 posts

202 months

Wednesday 19th April 2023
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Started on Elvanse this morning, only 30mg, but I felt a difference almost straight away with my ability to focus--despite already having my glasses on it was like putting my glasses and some noise cancelling headphones on.

It doesn't seem to have helped with anything other than that so far, but it's day one, hour one, so who knows. Moving to 50mg in a week so that might have more of an effect.

pherlopolus

2,088 posts

159 months

Wednesday 19th April 2023
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I went from 30mg to 50mg 2 weeks back, have had to drop down to 40mg as was zombied by the 50mg.

40mg seems to be lasting the day

MikeGTi

2,507 posts

202 months

Wednesday 19th April 2023
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pherlopolus said:
I went from 30mg to 50mg 2 weeks back, have had to drop down to 40mg as was zombied by the 50mg.

40mg seems to be lasting the day
Zombied in what way, if you don't mind me asking?

jamest1988

135 posts

133 months

Wednesday 19th April 2023
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MikeGTi said:
Started on Elvanse this morning, only 30mg, but I felt a difference almost straight away with my ability to focus--despite already having my glasses on it was like putting my glasses and some noise cancelling headphones on.

It doesn't seem to have helped with anything other than that so far, but it's day one, hour one, so who knows. Moving to 50mg in a week so that might have more of an effect.
Interesting, do you mind if I ask what service you used? I'm three weeks into titration with PUK. The default meds for PUK seems to be Concerta XL which although a very slight change, hasn't been the change that I was hoping for. I'd like to see if Elvanse has a different effect.

Motoring12345

615 posts

51 months

Wednesday 19th April 2023
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I finally made an appointment to discuss this with my GP. I had to wait for a month, rehearsed what I was going to say and made a list.

guess what happened?


I missed my appointment. Classic ADHD

MikeGTi

2,507 posts

202 months

Wednesday 19th April 2023
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jamest1988 said:
Interesting, do you mind if I ask what service you used? I'm three weeks into titration with PUK. The default meds for PUK seems to be Concerta XL which although a very slight change, hasn't been the change that I was hoping for. I'd like to see if Elvanse has a different effect.
I went via ADHD360 thumbup

pherlopolus

2,088 posts

159 months

Wednesday 19th April 2023
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MikeGTi said:
pherlopolus said:
I went from 30mg to 50mg 2 weeks back, have had to drop down to 40mg as was zombied by the 50mg.

40mg seems to be lasting the day
Zombied in what way, if you don't mind me asking?
I had moments when it was taking effect and wearing off when it was working, in between I literally couldn't get off the sofa to do anything. Also had loads of self doubt, emotionally unstable and the start of some paranioa!

MikeGTi

2,507 posts

202 months

Wednesday 19th April 2023
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pherlopolus said:
I had moments when it was taking effect and wearing off when it was working, in between I literally couldn't get off the sofa to do anything. Also had loads of self doubt, emotionally unstable and the start of some paranioa!
Ah, I’ll keep an eye out for that!

Phunk

1,977 posts

172 months

Thursday 20th April 2023
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Motoring12345 said:
I finally made an appointment to discuss this with my GP. I had to wait for a month, rehearsed what I was going to say and made a list.

guess what happened?


I missed my appointment. Classic ADHD
A month is good, I've been waiting since Nov 2021 to get an appointment