Resistance Training to lose weight
Discussion
craig_m67 said:
I’m doing exactly the same thing
Trying to get back down to 85kg from 110kg blow out.
Walking 14km, 6days a week. Counting cals., keto worked for me (before)
That said I’m very bored (walking) and motivation is low due to a painful breakup with long term GF
I’ve done it before (weight loss) so know it’s possible.
Very interested in the weight/resistance training part
How long did it take you to balloon up? It’s amazing how one can end up on such a state.Trying to get back down to 85kg from 110kg blow out.
Walking 14km, 6days a week. Counting cals., keto worked for me (before)
That said I’m very bored (walking) and motivation is low due to a painful breakup with long term GF
I’ve done it before (weight loss) so know it’s possible.
Very interested in the weight/resistance training part
Edited by craig_m67 on Tuesday 8th September 12:19
It started affecting my life and I could’nt even enjoy the things that I used to.
Smurfsarepeopletoo said:
A Calorie deficit equals weight loss, not fat loss, there is a big difference.
What? Of course it equals fat loss, where do you think the body primarily gets it’s energy from to make up the deficit?If anything the opposite is true, you can lose fat whilst in a calorie deficit but not necessarily lose weight.
IamJacksContempt said:
What? Of course it equals fat loss, where do you think the body primarily gets it’s energy from to make up the deficit?
If anything the opposite is true, you can lose fat whilst in a calorie deficit but not necessarily lose weight.
He’s getting at the fact that ‘weight loss’ is fat and lean tissue, not just fat loss. A reason why high protein and resistance training is a good idea- it retains lean tissue (muscle).If anything the opposite is true, you can lose fat whilst in a calorie deficit but not necessarily lose weight.
Given the same circumstances on a person who loses say 5kg- weight training and high protein can mean up to 90% of the weight loss is fat. Where as with low protein and no training, the ratio is around 50% fat 50% lean tissue.
Total weight loss remain the same, but body composition is very different
Edited by didelydoo on Thursday 10th September 13:26
IamJacksContempt said:
What? Of course it equals fat loss, where do you think the body primarily gets it’s energy from to make up the deficit?
If anything the opposite is true, you can lose fat whilst in a calorie deficit but not necessarily lose weight.
The body primarily gets its energy from Carbs, when these are not available it will use its other sources such as Protein and Fat.If anything the opposite is true, you can lose fat whilst in a calorie deficit but not necessarily lose weight.
And weight is just your relationship to the ground, you can lose "weight" by just taking a big dump, or not drinking as much water the day before as you normally do.
You could lose 3 stone in weight, but only lose a few percentage of body fat.
This is why people need to get over what the figures on the scales say, as this can be affected by how late you ate last night, how much water you drink, how much salt in your diet, and so on and so forth.
Smurfsarepeopletoo said:
The body primarily gets its energy from Carbs, when these are not available it will use its other sources such as Protein and Fat.
And weight is just your relationship to the ground, you can lose "weight" by just taking a big dump, or not drinking as much water the day before as you normally do.
You could lose 3 stone in weight, but only lose a few percentage of body fat.
This is why people need to get over what the figures on the scales say, as this can be affected by how late you ate last night, how much water you drink, how much salt in your diet, and so on and so forth.
Ahhh okay thanks for clarifying.And weight is just your relationship to the ground, you can lose "weight" by just taking a big dump, or not drinking as much water the day before as you normally do.
You could lose 3 stone in weight, but only lose a few percentage of body fat.
This is why people need to get over what the figures on the scales say, as this can be affected by how late you ate last night, how much water you drink, how much salt in your diet, and so on and so forth.
You’re right. I do think that if your aim is purely to lose weight (fat) then scales can be a general indicator of progress but otherwise taking body measurements and even picture updates would give you a better idea if you’re on the right track or not in terms of losing actual fat as opposed to weight.
50 years of faddy diets yet it has always been calories in vs calories out as others have said be very careful about what you eat and stick below say 1500 a day. Any exercise will be a Brucie Bonus^.
Don't forget that this will be HARD, anything that involves will power for weeks or months is highly likely to fail
TX.
^muscle retention points above noted!
Don't forget that this will be HARD, anything that involves will power for weeks or months is highly likely to fail
TX.
^muscle retention points above noted!
Edited by Terminator X on Thursday 10th September 15:28
I don't know if anyone is interested but I managed to get down to 99kg
I was going to the Gym 3 times a week doing various exercised until they closed (annoyingly they will continue to be closed until after xmas I think) so I am doing some walking and exercise.
It's dropping off slowly.
I was going to the Gym 3 times a week doing various exercised until they closed (annoyingly they will continue to be closed until after xmas I think) so I am doing some walking and exercise.
It's dropping off slowly.
Similar position, I was quite into weights though, gym closed and I had given my son all my weights gear, he had to move so had to sell it all.
I managed to get from 18 st 2 to 14 st 7 in 2017 and put some back on, peaked back at 17 stone, probably worse than that as have lost muscle from my top half, legs still ok as doing loads of cycling.
Whats working for me is a got "Zwift" the cycling app, plus the Wahoo Kickr trainer thing you plug your bike into, it lets you cycle virtually and adjusts the resistance, it was expensive at £1000 plus a hear rate monitor, plus a few other bits like a heart rate strap, ANT+ dongle for the pc and a new cassette for the bike.
It doesnt replace cycling outdoors but it makes riding indoors much less tedious, stick some music on and pedal round various virtual places, some fictitious, others based on real places. Normal cyclins is filled with interruptions like lights and queues of traffic etc, plus you have to get ready, plan a route and have time to clean the bike afterwards, especially in winter, but with this you can just get on, warm up a bit and then just pedal as hard as you can sustain for as long as you can manage.
I tend to burn 800 calories in an hour, then walk the dog later on, but gone form my round the block for a mile to making myself do 2 or 3 miles.
Tracking what I eat to an extent, skipped breakfast a bit as end up hungrier before lunch than if I dont bother but had porridge today as was really hungry.
I am wearing my Apple watch 24/7 as thought not sure how accurate the calorie counting is, if its higher it means I have done more, try to aim for a calorie deficit every day of at least 1000 between a quick but honest tot up of what I have eaten vs what the watch says.
Started a about a month ago, gone from 237 pounds to 228, am aiming on a pound a week, strict all week and go on the bike three or four times, walk every day, few press ups etc then if I meet my target I allow myself a couple of beers on a Friday night, then set next weeks target based on where I got to, not hit it, nobeers, then set it for next week to be a pound less, if its more, all well and good.
Its about tweaking the activity up, and what you eat down, dont need to starve, dont need to go on an exercise frenzy, and eat good stuff, not less of the crap I love. Steak and baked potato tonight, loads of veg and some Pepper sauce, then if need something sweet, piece of Dark Chocolate which turns of that "NEED SWEET THINGS !!!" alert in your head.
Gym opens back up next week, will go and do some weights but aiming to stay fairly light, get the fat off, then go back to lifting heavier.
Wonderful thing about the bike trainer is, can go on any time and burn a 1000 calories or more, a lot easier than denying yourself food for months.
I managed to get from 18 st 2 to 14 st 7 in 2017 and put some back on, peaked back at 17 stone, probably worse than that as have lost muscle from my top half, legs still ok as doing loads of cycling.
Whats working for me is a got "Zwift" the cycling app, plus the Wahoo Kickr trainer thing you plug your bike into, it lets you cycle virtually and adjusts the resistance, it was expensive at £1000 plus a hear rate monitor, plus a few other bits like a heart rate strap, ANT+ dongle for the pc and a new cassette for the bike.
It doesnt replace cycling outdoors but it makes riding indoors much less tedious, stick some music on and pedal round various virtual places, some fictitious, others based on real places. Normal cyclins is filled with interruptions like lights and queues of traffic etc, plus you have to get ready, plan a route and have time to clean the bike afterwards, especially in winter, but with this you can just get on, warm up a bit and then just pedal as hard as you can sustain for as long as you can manage.
I tend to burn 800 calories in an hour, then walk the dog later on, but gone form my round the block for a mile to making myself do 2 or 3 miles.
Tracking what I eat to an extent, skipped breakfast a bit as end up hungrier before lunch than if I dont bother but had porridge today as was really hungry.
I am wearing my Apple watch 24/7 as thought not sure how accurate the calorie counting is, if its higher it means I have done more, try to aim for a calorie deficit every day of at least 1000 between a quick but honest tot up of what I have eaten vs what the watch says.
Started a about a month ago, gone from 237 pounds to 228, am aiming on a pound a week, strict all week and go on the bike three or four times, walk every day, few press ups etc then if I meet my target I allow myself a couple of beers on a Friday night, then set next weeks target based on where I got to, not hit it, nobeers, then set it for next week to be a pound less, if its more, all well and good.
Its about tweaking the activity up, and what you eat down, dont need to starve, dont need to go on an exercise frenzy, and eat good stuff, not less of the crap I love. Steak and baked potato tonight, loads of veg and some Pepper sauce, then if need something sweet, piece of Dark Chocolate which turns of that "NEED SWEET THINGS !!!" alert in your head.
Gym opens back up next week, will go and do some weights but aiming to stay fairly light, get the fat off, then go back to lifting heavier.
Wonderful thing about the bike trainer is, can go on any time and burn a 1000 calories or more, a lot easier than denying yourself food for months.
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